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RobHardyUK · Jul 23rd, 2004, 05:18 PM

Hmmm, ok i need opinions!

I have been thinking all day, about my current order, the Cooper, and the fact I really do actually want the S. I phoned the dealer today, and enquired if it was ok to change, and she said yeah no problem, but the waiting list is until next march/april! A long wait. Is the cooperS worth the wait? It would let me get more money sorted, to afford it and stuff, i'm not sure what to do! as also, alot of my options, alarm, ss+ etc all come std on the S! So it wont cost 3k more, so its a damn hard choice! Need help!

Rob (in Destress)

razorbackmini · Jul 23rd, 2004, 05:29 PM

WAIT AND GET WHAT YOU WANT! YOU WILL BE THAT MUCH HAPPIER. You only live once. So, why settle for settle for second best (in terms of what you want) because of a slight delay in delivery and the relatively small amount of money more? NO SECOND GUESSING ON GETTING WHAT YOU WANT.

RobHardyUK · Jul 23rd, 2004, 05:33 PM

Yeah. This is what im thinking, I am a little bit concerned I might regret getting the cooper, when i kno in my own mind next year i will get the S anyway, so may aswell put up with the wait now i guess. Any other opinions?

dansmini · Jul 23rd, 2004, 06:05 PM

If you know you want an S, and can afford an S, get an S! The wait should not make a difference.

RobHardyUK · Jul 23rd, 2004, 06:30 PM

Is the waiting list for the S really this much longer though?!?!?! It seems ludicruous!

gezmedinger · Jul 23rd, 2004, 06:31 PM

Rob, I agree... I originally intended to get a cooper, but foolishly test drove the S, knowing that it was a really financially irresponsible thing to do. As it turned out, it was... I loved the S, spent about a week doing the sums to work out whether I could afford it, came to the conclusion that you're only young once and ordered one. So here I am, looking at a remaining bill of about £16k that needs to be paid in a month, but with a HB/HB MCS arriving on the 1st Sept! Bring it on!
The only thing I would say is make sure you can get insurance on it that isn't too outrageously expensive... I've had quotes of up to £4k!

RobHardyUK · Jul 23rd, 2004, 06:33 PM

the thing that annoys me is the wait till next march! Its a major backache. Is it actually worth it? I can see me ordering one next year any how. I am just soooo impatient. especially with cars.

gezmedinger · Jul 23rd, 2004, 06:34 PM

Yes that wait for an MCS does seem ludicrous... I was told by my dealer that if I ordered my MCS again now it'd be a November delivery, so March/April does seem odd. See if you can talk to someone else at the dealership. Talking to another dealer won't help too much, as they've all got different allocations which may or may not be filled up and I guess you'll lose your deposit if you take your order off to another dealer. Someone else at the dealer may know a bit more about what slots they have for MCS's in the production line...

gezmedinger · Jul 23rd, 2004, 06:35 PM

Of course the other thing you could do is simply wait for the Cooper, see how you get along with it and then order an S after a bit if you think you want to upgrade. If you sell the cooper privately you won't lose too much in the first year, less than a grand certainly...

RobHardyUK · Jul 23rd, 2004, 06:37 PM

hmm yeah. I am gonna say you said november, and see what she says, and i wil see if i can get justification for march delivery. march is 8 months. i cant hold tht long! but then the other of me says i should.

RobHardyUK · Jul 23rd, 2004, 06:38 PM

what im gonna say is, if she says november, ill do it, if shes says march, i wont, and ill order next year prob. im just worried ill kick myself for not getting the S. which is an expensive kcik.

L13 Cooper · Jul 23rd, 2004, 06:51 PM

i was in the same boat as you Rob, i could afford the S and i do want the S but im not getting it yet as the cooper is a damn good car and im only 19! true you only live once but it will leave you with one big debt, the Mini Cooper is a fantastic car there is plenty of time for the S....

I think get the cooper, enjoy it, have fun and then if you still want the S in a year or so, sell it and get an S, that way you will appreciate it so so much more

Just my thoughts! and insurance will be a killer mate

gezmedinger · Jul 23rd, 2004, 06:57 PM

Hmm. It's a tough one and only you can decide! Surely you don't have too long to decide though? If you've got an early sept delivery I'd have thought your cooper will be hitting the production line pretty soon.
I think you're right though.. if they say definitely march then get your cooper and have fun in that for a while... but if they say Nov I'd say go for the S. If you can afford it you won't regret it!

gezmedinger · Jul 23rd, 2004, 07:05 PM

L13 - I think I'd definitely have done the same as you at 19... I'm 26 and had to think bloody hard about whether I could justify getting the S, especially with insurance! Think I was still rattling round in a A reg Volvo 360GLS until I was 21!

Billy Smart · Jul 23rd, 2004, 07:43 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by RobHardyUK

Hmmm, ok i need opinions!

I have been thinking all day, about my current order, the Cooper, and the fact I really do actually want the S. I phoned the dealer today, and enquired if it was ok to change, and she said yeah no problem, but the waiting list is until next march/april! A long wait. Is the cooperS worth the wait? It would let me get more money sorted, to afford it and stuff, i'm not sure what to do! as also, alot of my options, alarm, ss+ etc all come std on the S! So it wont cost 3k more, so its a damn hard choice! Need help!

Rob (in Destress)

Oh yesSSSSSSSSSSS

you will always say 'i wish i had an S' so do it, you only live once

i've waited 2 months already and im not getting mine till December...oh it hurts, but it will be worth it as any of the guy and girls will tell you within this world of mini nutters (no offence to all......honest)

Billy

devilsushi2000 · Jul 23rd, 2004, 07:45 PM

Wont your insurance be stupidly high........

Billy Smart · Jul 23rd, 2004, 07:46 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by RobHardyUK

hmm yeah. I am gonna say you said november, and see what she says, and i wil see if i can get justification for march delivery. march is 8 months. i cant hold tht long! but then the other of me says i should.

Just go round different dealerships and test drive there Cooper S', it works for me (sad arn't i...)

im going for a play in the coop drop top this sunday

Billy

RobHardyUK · Jul 23rd, 2004, 08:43 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by devilsushi2000

Wont your insurance be stupidly high........

yeah 2.3k, as opposed to 1.2k for the coop! I am gonna see what the bird says, if its march, im gonna stick with cooper, if november, ill get S. ill just wait till next year otherwise!

Shamster · Jul 23rd, 2004, 09:13 PM

If it's Sytner in High Wycombe its probably because the demand for them has increased. I know the guys down at Sytner GX and they are quoting longer delivery times than when i got my last two cars through them.

You should be able to get it much sooner than March from a different dealer.

RobHardyUK · Jul 23rd, 2004, 09:22 PM

nah this is from altwood windsor! thing is, i gave em 500 quid depsot for my cooper, so cant really run away to easily to another dealer! I will enquire tomorrow and see what they got to say

Jul 23rd, 2004, 05:18 PM	#1
RobHardyUK The Hartge Experience Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: High Wycombe Local Time: 02:15 AM Posts: 1,044 Offline	Change to a Coop S? Hmmm, ok i need opinions! I have been thinking all day, about my current order, the Cooper, and the fact I really do actually want the S. I phoned the dealer today, and enquired if it was ok to change, and she said yeah no problem, but the waiting list is until next march/april! A long wait. Is the cooperS worth the wait? It would let me get more money sorted, to afford it and stuff, i'm not sure what to do! as also, alot of my options, alarm, ss+ etc all come std on the S! So it wont cost 3k more, so its a damn hard choice! Need help! Rob (in Destress)

Jul 23rd, 2004, 07:43 PM	#15 (permalink)
Billy Smart Hillbilly boy Join Date: May 2004 Location: Skeg-Vegas Local Time: 02:15 AM Posts: 1,250 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by RobHardyUK Hmmm, ok i need opinions! I have been thinking all day, about my current order, the Cooper, and the fact I really do actually want the S. I phoned the dealer today, and enquired if it was ok to change, and she said yeah no problem, but the waiting list is until next march/april! A long wait. Is the cooperS worth the wait? It would let me get more money sorted, to afford it and stuff, i'm not sure what to do! as also, alot of my options, alarm, ss+ etc all come std on the S! So it wont cost 3k more, so its a damn hard choice! Need help! Rob (in Destress) Oh yesSSSSSSSSSSS you will always say 'i wish i had an S' so do it, you only live once i've waited 2 months already and im not getting mine till December...oh it hurts, but it will be worth it as any of the guy and girls will tell you within this world of mini nutters (no offence to all......honest) Billy Eer you niked my son.......

Jul 23rd, 2004, 07:46 PM	#17 (permalink)
Billy Smart Hillbilly boy Join Date: May 2004 Location: Skeg-Vegas Local Time: 02:15 AM Posts: 1,250 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by RobHardyUK hmm yeah. I am gonna say you said november, and see what she says, and i wil see if i can get justification for march delivery. march is 8 months. i cant hold tht long! but then the other of me says i should. Just go round different dealerships and test drive there Cooper S', it works for me (sad arn't i...) im going for a play in the coop drop top this sunday Billy Eer you niked my son.......

Jul 23rd, 2004, 09:13 PM	#19 (permalink)
Shamster Lord of The Four Rings Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Reminiscing Local Time: 01:15 AM Posts: 10,745 Offline	If it's Sytner in High Wycombe its probably because the demand for them has increased. I know the guys down at Sytner GX and they are quoting longer delivery times than when i got my last two cars through them. You should be able to get it much sooner than March from a different dealer. 260909

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Jul 23rd, 2004, 05:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
razorbackmini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Arkansas Local Time: 08:15 PM Posts: 120 Offline	WAIT AND GET WHAT YOU WANT! YOU WILL BE THAT MUCH HAPPIER. You only live once. So, why settle for settle for second best (in terms of what you want) because of a slight delay in delivery and the relatively small amount of money more? NO SECOND GUESSING ON GETTING WHAT YOU WANT.

Jul 23rd, 2004, 05:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
RobHardyUK The Hartge Experience Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: High Wycombe Local Time: 02:15 AM Posts: 1,044 Offline	Yeah. This is what im thinking, I am a little bit concerned I might regret getting the cooper, when i kno in my own mind next year i will get the S anyway, so may aswell put up with the wait now i guess. Any other opinions?

Jul 23rd, 2004, 06:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
dansmini Sullivan Racing Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ohio Local Time: 09:15 PM Posts: 1,117 Offline	If you know you want an S, and can afford an S, get an S! The wait should not make a difference.

Jul 23rd, 2004, 06:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
RobHardyUK The Hartge Experience Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: High Wycombe Local Time: 02:15 AM Posts: 1,044 Offline	Is the waiting list for the S really this much longer though?!?!?! It seems ludicruous!

Jul 23rd, 2004, 06:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
gezmedinger MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London Local Time: 02:15 AM Posts: 184 Offline	Rob, I agree... I originally intended to get a cooper, but foolishly test drove the S, knowing that it was a really financially irresponsible thing to do. As it turned out, it was... I loved the S, spent about a week doing the sums to work out whether I could afford it, came to the conclusion that you're only young once and ordered one. So here I am, looking at a remaining bill of about £16k that needs to be paid in a month, but with a HB/HB MCS arriving on the 1st Sept! Bring it on! The only thing I would say is make sure you can get insurance on it that isn't too outrageously expensive... I've had quotes of up to £4k!

Jul 23rd, 2004, 06:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
RobHardyUK The Hartge Experience Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: High Wycombe Local Time: 02:15 AM Posts: 1,044 Offline	the thing that annoys me is the wait till next march! Its a major backache. Is it actually worth it? I can see me ordering one next year any how. I am just soooo impatient. especially with cars.

Jul 23rd, 2004, 06:34 PM	#8 (permalink)
gezmedinger MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London Local Time: 02:15 AM Posts: 184 Offline	Yes that wait for an MCS does seem ludicrous... I was told by my dealer that if I ordered my MCS again now it'd be a November delivery, so March/April does seem odd. See if you can talk to someone else at the dealership. Talking to another dealer won't help too much, as they've all got different allocations which may or may not be filled up and I guess you'll lose your deposit if you take your order off to another dealer. Someone else at the dealer may know a bit more about what slots they have for MCS's in the production line...

Jul 23rd, 2004, 06:35 PM	#9 (permalink)
gezmedinger MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London Local Time: 02:15 AM Posts: 184 Offline	Of course the other thing you could do is simply wait for the Cooper, see how you get along with it and then order an S after a bit if you think you want to upgrade. If you sell the cooper privately you won't lose too much in the first year, less than a grand certainly...

Jul 23rd, 2004, 06:37 PM	#10 (permalink)
RobHardyUK The Hartge Experience Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: High Wycombe Local Time: 02:15 AM Posts: 1,044 Offline	hmm yeah. I am gonna say you said november, and see what she says, and i wil see if i can get justification for march delivery. march is 8 months. i cant hold tht long! but then the other of me says i should.

Jul 23rd, 2004, 06:38 PM	#11 (permalink)
RobHardyUK The Hartge Experience Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: High Wycombe Local Time: 02:15 AM Posts: 1,044 Offline	what im gonna say is, if she says november, ill do it, if shes says march, i wont, and ill order next year prob. im just worried ill kick myself for not getting the S. which is an expensive kcik.

Jul 23rd, 2004, 06:51 PM	#12 (permalink)
L13 Cooper Astro Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bath Local Time: 02:15 AM Posts: 303 Offline	i was in the same boat as you Rob, i could afford the S and i do want the S but im not getting it yet as the cooper is a damn good car and im only 19! true you only live once but it will leave you with one big debt, the Mini Cooper is a fantastic car there is plenty of time for the S.... I think get the cooper, enjoy it, have fun and then if you still want the S in a year or so, sell it and get an S, that way you will appreciate it so so much more Just my thoughts! and insurance will be a killer mate

Jul 23rd, 2004, 06:57 PM	#13 (permalink)
gezmedinger MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London Local Time: 02:15 AM Posts: 184 Offline	Hmm. It's a tough one and only you can decide! Surely you don't have too long to decide though? If you've got an early sept delivery I'd have thought your cooper will be hitting the production line pretty soon. I think you're right though.. if they say definitely march then get your cooper and have fun in that for a while... but if they say Nov I'd say go for the S. If you can afford it you won't regret it!

Jul 23rd, 2004, 07:05 PM	#14 (permalink)
gezmedinger MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London Local Time: 02:15 AM Posts: 184 Offline	L13 - I think I'd definitely have done the same as you at 19... I'm 26 and had to think bloody hard about whether I could justify getting the S, especially with insurance! Think I was still rattling round in a A reg Volvo 360GLS until I was 21!

Jul 23rd, 2004, 07:45 PM	#16 (permalink)
devilsushi2000 In Barbados until 1st Sep Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Berkshire - UK Local Time: 01:15 AM Posts: 843 Offline	Wont your insurance be stupidly high........

Jul 23rd, 2004, 08:43 PM	#18 (permalink)
RobHardyUK The Hartge Experience Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: High Wycombe Local Time: 02:15 AM Posts: 1,044 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by devilsushi2000 Wont your insurance be stupidly high........ yeah 2.3k, as opposed to 1.2k for the coop! I am gonna see what the bird says, if its march, im gonna stick with cooper, if november, ill get S. ill just wait till next year otherwise!

Jul 23rd, 2004, 09:22 PM	#20 (permalink)
RobHardyUK The Hartge Experience Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: High Wycombe Local Time: 02:15 AM Posts: 1,044 Offline	nah this is from altwood windsor! thing is, i gave em 500 quid depsot for my cooper, so cant really run away to easily to another dealer! I will enquire tomorrow and see what they got to say

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