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Old Jan 1st, 2005, 07:41 PM
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Some of u regular Mini 2 forum readers will remember that a Mini owner from West Derby in Liverpool was stabbed in his own home by a gang who were trying to steal his
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I have heard today that the Police have possibly arrested one person (possibly the gang leader) with connection to this crime I hope that this is true and that they catch the other scumbags who did this
Will keep u informed If I hear anything official via TV or Local Press ????????

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That's just wrong. I hope that they get them. Did the person recover from his stabbing?

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I do believe that the person did recover thankfully
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There are some maniacs out who wouldn't think twice about using a weapon to get what they want.

Glad he's made a full recovery.

Hope these scum bags get their just deserves.

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My brother caught someone trying to break into his house for the keys to his scooby, is this only a problem in the UK, I work for a US company and after a recent visit to Texas i can,t imagine the same thing happening there, people have the right to protect their property.
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My brother caught someone trying to break into his house for the keys to his scooby, is this only a problem in the UK, I work for a US company and after a recent visit to Texas i can,t imagine the same thing happening there, people have the right to protect their property.

That'll be because break into a house in the US and you run the risk of being shot... as we know defend yourself in your own home in the UK and you could well see yourself in court !!!...
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That'll be because break into a house in the US and you run the risk of being shot... as we know defend yourself in your own home in the UK and you could well see yourself in court !!!...

No, you will certainly end up in court. If the thief is injured and caught he will definitely report it as he has nothing to loose. With injuries and a witness there will be a trial. Not a new experience for the hardened criminal but fairly traumatic for the victim, sorry accused person. Unless you know how the system works, you could be remanded. It will go before a jury if you plead Innocent because GBH is taken a lot more seriously than burglary.

The Daily Mail recently reported the case where two car theft victims got to the stolen, now crashed, car not long after the thief had crashed it. The thief said his crash injuries were deliberately inflicted by the car owner and his friend, and so the thief was released and the owner and his friend were locked up and questioned for 20 hours.

There is a feeling that if injuries occur, someone has to answer for it in court. A larger proportion of car owners than car thieves have enough money to disqualify them from legal aid, and a boss to annoy by taking time off to go to court, so the victim often has more to loose than the thief. The career criminals also know the law better.

If you get prosecuted for attacking a thief in your own home, your crime will be one of the successes for the CPS, not one of the unsolved crimes. The police and CPS know where to find you, and can get you to court by writing a letter, so you are an easy target. You can be sure that the thief's family will have a good sob story ready to stop the CPS dropping the case.

In the recent debate, I heard a lot of politicians saying that defending oneself is OK if you don't kill the burglar. They seemed to imply the average householder has the choice of non-leathal weapons to hand and the training to use them, to enable him or her to disable a burglar without killing him. I have no idea how hard to hit someone so that he can't fight back but will survive. If I confront someone in my house I will end up in hospital or in front of a jury, and the burglars know that I know that.

The end result is that car theft and burglary are just too easy.
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Like i say, Only in this country, I had my Harley stolen last year, I no who did it but nothing i can do.
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