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MoMini · Jun 8th, 2002, 05:19 PM

Don't know if this has been posted already buy ther is a full test of an MCS in C&D with some interesting figures. They tested a fully loaded DS MCS (all packages).

0-60 = 7.0 s
0-100 = 19.8 s
1/4 mile = 15.5 s @ 90 mph
6th gear 50-70 = 12.3 s
70-0 = 169 ft
skidpad = 0.85 g
MPG (ave) = 21
curb weight = 2767 (boy these guys are heavy fully loaded)

Overall a very positive review with exceptionally high marks given to the car's handling. Comments on how heavy the controls felt (steering) in urban driving. Also, the car feels much larger than it's demansions would indicate. Good article.

wingspan · Jun 8th, 2002, 05:23 PM

Yes interesting, apparently this was Brock Yates personal car? I wonder if he'll do an article in a forthcoming issues...

mag

LuckyRVA · Jun 8th, 2002, 05:32 PM

Wow, the Cooper S is pretty heavy!

What options did the Cooper S have to make it so heavy? B/c I'v heard from other stories around this board that the S weighs in aroung 2500 lbs.

Garfield · Jun 8th, 2002, 07:20 PM

Given my calculations, assuming their weight is WITHOUT driver, they've somehow got about 100lbs of options aside from the 17" wheels.
I've heard the sunroof is 60lbs. I guess the rest of the extra doo-dads weigh around 40lbs. It's possible.

Mine on a competition scale was 2515. This was with 1/8th of a tank (around 1.5 gallons?), wheel and tire combo weighing 18lbs less per corner (72lb savings) and no options.

Add a full tank at approx. 84lbs and 72lbs of extra wheel/tire and you get 2671.
Add a 60lb sunroof and you get 2731.

That's 36lbs shy of C/D's weight, with any other options left to add if they actually weigh anything.

Brian

MoMini · Jun 8th, 2002, 11:25 PM

Garfield ,
The remaining weight could be the 17's vs. the 16's .... Think there is about 9 lb difference per wheel when you consider the weight of the wheels and tires?

Garfield · Jun 8th, 2002, 11:49 PM

Apparently you missed it, but my post includes the difference in wheel weights several times. My wheel and tire combo in race trim is 32lbs. The stock is 50lbs. That's where the 18lbs/corner figure of 72lbs came from.

There's still those approximate 36lbs of options I'm guessing the difference is.

Red & White Cooper 2 · Jun 9th, 2002, 08:42 AM

My guess is the test car probably had aircon.

Even with the extra weight, the 0-60 time is quicker than any UK test I've seen.

districtofc · Jun 9th, 2002, 01:21 PM

more reason to dump the heavy wheels and tires.

Jun 8th, 2002, 05:19 PM	#1
MoMini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CT Local Time: 03:04 PM Posts: 110 Offline	C & D full test of the MCS Don't know if this has been posted already buy ther is a full test of an MCS in C&D with some interesting figures. They tested a fully loaded DS MCS (all packages). 0-60 = 7.0 s 0-100 = 19.8 s 1/4 mile = 15.5 s @ 90 mph 6th gear 50-70 = 12.3 s 70-0 = 169 ft skidpad = 0.85 g MPG (ave) = 21 curb weight = 2767 (boy these guys are heavy fully loaded) Overall a very positive review with exceptionally high marks given to the car's handling. Comments on how heavy the controls felt (steering) in urban driving. Also, the car feels much larger than it's demansions would indicate. Good article.

Jun 8th, 2002, 05:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
wingspan MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2002 Location: Central Florida Local Time: 04:04 PM Posts: 73 Offline	Yes interesting, apparently this was Brock Yates personal car? I wonder if he'll do an article in a forthcoming issues... mag 1967 Austin Cooper S 1275 "Magnus"

Jun 8th, 2002, 05:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
LuckyRVA 1.6 Litres of fury!!!! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Queens, NYC Local Time: 05:04 PM Posts: 1,277 Offline	Wow, the Cooper S is pretty heavy! What options did the Cooper S have to make it so heavy? B/c I'v heard from other stories around this board that the S weighs in aroung 2500 lbs. 2002 Dark Silver Cooper S w/ white roof. SOLD

Jun 8th, 2002, 07:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
Garfield MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Mt. Airy, MD USA Local Time: 04:04 PM Posts: 791 Offline	Given my calculations, assuming their weight is WITHOUT driver, they've somehow got about 100lbs of options aside from the 17" wheels. I've heard the sunroof is 60lbs. I guess the rest of the extra doo-dads weigh around 40lbs. It's possible. Mine on a competition scale was 2515. This was with 1/8th of a tank (around 1.5 gallons?), wheel and tire combo weighing 18lbs less per corner (72lb savings) and no options. Add a full tank at approx. 84lbs and 72lbs of extra wheel/tire and you get 2671. Add a 60lb sunroof and you get 2731. That's 36lbs shy of C/D's weight, with any other options left to add if they actually weigh anything. Brian - 2005 G Stock '05 MINI or it's back to a Miata in C Stock - 2004 G Stock 2nd place Pro Solo, 9th Place Solo II - 2003 STX 5th place Pro Solo, 6th Place Solo II - 2002 H Stock Pro Solo National Champion

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Garfield MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Mt. Airy, MD USA Local Time: 04:04 PM Posts: 791 Offline	Apparently you missed it, but my post includes the difference in wheel weights several times. My wheel and tire combo in race trim is 32lbs. The stock is 50lbs. That's where the 18lbs/corner figure of 72lbs came from. There's still those approximate 36lbs of options I'm guessing the difference is. - 2005 G Stock '05 MINI or it's back to a Miata in C Stock - 2004 G Stock 2nd place Pro Solo, 9th Place Solo II - 2003 STX 5th place Pro Solo, 6th Place Solo II - 2002 H Stock Pro Solo National Champion

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Jun 8th, 2002, 11:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
MoMini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CT Local Time: 03:04 PM Posts: 110 Offline	Garfield , The remaining weight could be the 17's vs. the 16's .... Think there is about 9 lb difference per wheel when you consider the weight of the wheels and tires?

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Red & White Cooper 2 MINI2 Senior Join Date: Dec 2001 Local Time: 09:04 PM Posts: 372 Offline	My guess is the test car probably had aircon. Even with the extra weight, the 0-60 time is quicker than any UK test I've seen.

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districtofc MINI2 Senior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Washington, DC Local Time: 04:04 PM Posts: 379 Offline	more reason to dump the heavy wheels and tires. "The best change to your car you can make is adjusting the nut behind the wheel"

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