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kshapiro · Jun 24th, 2002, 08:09 AM

The only way it would make sense is if it is supposed to actually go up (so you can load while your hands are full), but my hatch , when activated by remote key, only unlatched and moved about a half inch. Is that due to the pressure thing we've read about (with the grill in the boot cover remedy), or is it just another useless gimicky feature?

BTW, I had mine reporogrammed to do windows opening from the remote. Now THAT'S a great feature when the heat index is over 100 like it is today...getting some air in before you get inside!

An_S_4_Me · Jun 24th, 2002, 08:28 AM

Has anyone tried removing the parcel shelf and then trying the remote opening of the boot/hatch?

davep · Jun 24th, 2002, 12:08 PM

My 330Ci had remote boot release - it only unlocked it and popped the boot about half an inch.
It's not the same as Mercedes where the boot lid opens all the way once remotely unlatched.
I guess it's the way BMW do things...

Martin L · Jun 24th, 2002, 12:19 PM

What do you expect?
This isn't a £50,000 7 series or S-class where it is still an option to get the "comfort" opening and closing of the boot. I also notice that the new VW Phenom has this auto boot opening and closing too.
One feature I think that is reserved for high end luxury cars

Besides if it did open automatically I think the "safety" people would have a say somewhere along the line

AidenL · Jun 24th, 2002, 02:33 PM

I dont see the point of it myself........

An_S_4_Me · Jun 24th, 2002, 05:04 PM

Quentin Wilson broke the boot on the Phaeton by just trying to open it (some program I saw on TV the other day), so even with the most expensive cars, they will never work flawlessly, have asked for the following to be programmed on my car..

1) Different indicator flashes for status (shut, open, problem)

2) Automatically locking doors over 12mph

3) Remote closing and opening of the windows with the keyfob

And another one that I have forgotten.

Addicted_to_S · Jun 24th, 2002, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by An_S_4_Me
Has anyone tried removing the parcel shelf and then trying the remote opening of the boot/hatch?

Funny you should ask, I just tried it, or at least the same idea, by tilting a rear seat forward to achieve the same thing. And guess what, it makes not the slightest difference

, so I'm afraid I don't buy into the story of the grill in the parcel shelf fix.

At least I don't have to be sorry that Stonk hasn't got the grill.

I don't think it's the vacuum effect holding the tailgate shut when you remote release, but rather its weight. The hydraulic lifts don't have enough mechanical advantage to raise the tailgate until it's opened a few inches. So when you pop the catch with the remote, technically it opens, but it just sits there and catches up again on the second stop as soon as you release the remote.

Why I wish this feature would work is because the tailgate gets so filthy under normal driving conditions. So when you turn up for an important business meeting you get your attache case out of the boot of your Cooper S and go give Bill Gates, Richard Branson, Ted Turner or whoever a roadgrime-filthy handshake.

LMB · Jun 24th, 2002, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AidenL
I dont see the point of it myself........

It has to be top of the pointless features list.

Basil · Jun 24th, 2002, 06:31 PM

Hmmm, I know it's been discussed before, and I agree there's little point. On the other hand how many hatchbacks do you know that have a hatch popper that would allow the hatch to open fully "automaticaly". Martin L has I think hit the proverbial nail. Not only a safety issue, but you wouldn't want to be parked close in front of another car or even a wall and hit the button without thinking..... OUCH !!!.

A "boot" on the other hand is an entirely different matter as it opens within the length of the car.

(PS. I majored on the "Bleeding obvious"

)

LMB · Jun 24th, 2002, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Basil
Hmmm, I know it's been discussed before, and I agree there's little point. On the other hand how many hatchbacks do you know that have a hatch popper that would allow the hatch to open fully "automaticaly". Martin L has I think hit the proverbial nail. Not only a safety issue, but you wouldn't want to be parked close in front of another car or even a wall and hit the button without thinking..... OUCH !!!.

A "boot" on the other hand is an entirely different matter as it opens within the length of the car.

(PS. I majored on the "Bleeding obvious" )

So it's pointless.

Basil · Jun 24th, 2002, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LMB

So it's pointless.

.....almost completely.......

Addicted_to_S · Jun 24th, 2002, 07:37 PM

...drop the almost!

Basil · Jun 24th, 2002, 07:48 PM

Ummm, I can't. Someone somewhere probably finds it useful for one reason or the other......doesn't it just open the hatch and leave the rest of the car locked for instance ?

Do I have a point, or do I not have a point.

LMB · Jun 24th, 2002, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Basil
Ummm, I can't. Someone somewhere probably finds it useful for one reason or the other......doesn't it just open the hatch and leave the rest of the car locked for instance ?

Do I have a point, or do I not have a point.

Go on Basil just admit it, it’s totally and utterly useless.

Coati1 · Jun 24th, 2002, 07:59 PM

Is there an interior hatch release button, or is this remote feature likely to be my best bet for getting out of the back of car when I wake up in the morning?

HarryHBMCC · Jun 24th, 2002, 08:40 PM

I saw a post about the MINI here or elsewhere that said the grill at the back was to enhance the exhaust note -- there was no mention of the hatch opening easier, though that did sound like a better reason to me.

Harry

mia · Jun 24th, 2002, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kshapiro
The only way it would make sense is if it is supposed to actually go up (so you can load while your hands are full), but my hatch , when activated by remote key, only unlatched and moved about a half inch. Is that due to the pressure thing we've read about (with the grill in the boot cover remedy), or is it just another useless gimicky feature?

BTW, I had mine reporogrammed to do windows opening from the remote. Now THAT'S a great feature when the heat index is over 100 like it is today...getting some air in before you get inside!

help me! i need to know your dealer's name and build date b/c my dealer in nj is telling me that my key fab cannot be reprogrammed..which i'm not sure is the truth. if i have some info to throw at them, maybe the tune will change. thank you!

wynnonna · Jun 24th, 2002, 09:19 PM

Mia,

While my dealer is not able to do ALL the features (missing software or such), he was able to do "comfort opening via remote" for the windows & sunroof & auto locking on start off. I'm in Miami, Florida and the dealer is South Motors MINI.

Good luck!

Cathy

mia · Jun 24th, 2002, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wynnonna
Mia,

While my dealer is not able to do ALL the features (missing software or such), he was able to do "comfort opening via remote" for the windows & sunroof & auto locking on start off. I'm in Miami, Florida and the dealer is South Motors MINI.

Good luck!

Cathy

thanks for the info! mia

Bad Ess · Jun 24th, 2002, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HarryIndiBlue
I saw a post about the MINI here or elsewhere that said the grill at the back was to enhance the exhaust note -- there was no mention of the hatch opening easier, though that did sound like a better reason to me.

Harry

OK so there may be a new grill. Anybody know how the flow through ventilation works?

My wife has a new beetle and the key button will unlock the boot so when you get to the car you just lift it to throw in the groceries. It is very handy. It beats messing with the key or opening the door to unlock the boot. The fault with the beetle is that you can't open without the key or tripping the inside release. The Mini is great with the rubber pad and electric control at the gate. Simple and water proof. If you want fancy look at the Lincoln Navigator. Now there's a barge full of gismos.

Jun 24th, 2002, 08:09 AM	#1
kshapiro MINI2 Master Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Local Time: 10:06 PM Posts: 938 Offline	Why The Remote Hatch Opening ??? The only way it would make sense is if it is supposed to actually go up (so you can load while your hands are full), but my hatch , when activated by remote key, only unlatched and moved about a half inch. Is that due to the pressure thing we've read about (with the grill in the boot cover remedy), or is it just another useless gimicky feature? BTW, I had mine reporogrammed to do windows opening from the remote. Now THAT'S a great feature when the heat index is over 100 like it is today...getting some air in before you get inside! Ken Shapiro Electric Blue w/ Sport Package...first "S" delivered in Maryland (5/10/02) I've been everywhere but the electric chair...I've seen everything but the wind.

Jun 24th, 2002, 08:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
An_S_4_Me MINI2 Senior Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Wakefield, UK Local Time: 11:06 PM Posts: 572 Offline	Has anyone tried removing the parcel shelf and then trying the remote opening of the boot/hatch? DS Cooper S w/white bits, DSC, 1/2 Leather all black trim, CHILI Pack, TLC - ARRIVED 01/07/02 Sold 29th May 2004 to make way for house

Jun 24th, 2002, 12:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
Martin L MINI defector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Harefield Local Time: 11:06 PM Posts: 13,642 Offline	What do you expect? This isn't a £50,000 7 series or S-class where it is still an option to get the "comfort" opening and closing of the boot. I also notice that the new VW Phenom has this auto boot opening and closing too. One feature I think that is reserved for high end luxury cars Besides if it did open automatically I think the "safety" people would have a say somewhere along the line MINI, RX8 and MX5 - Done those............. It's now TTime Unofficial MINI2.com bean counter

Jun 24th, 2002, 02:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
AidenL Nice TTs......... Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: On The Coast........ Local Time: 11:06 PM Posts: 42,173 Offline	I dont see the point of it myself........ *Global Moderator*

Jun 24th, 2002, 05:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
An_S_4_Me MINI2 Senior Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Wakefield, UK Local Time: 11:06 PM Posts: 572 Offline	Quentin Wilson broke the boot on the Phaeton by just trying to open it (some program I saw on TV the other day), so even with the most expensive cars, they will never work flawlessly, have asked for the following to be programmed on my car.. 1) Different indicator flashes for status (shut, open, problem) 2) Automatically locking doors over 12mph 3) Remote closing and opening of the windows with the keyfob And another one that I have forgotten. DS Cooper S w/white bits, DSC, 1/2 Leather all black trim, CHILI Pack, TLC - ARRIVED 01/07/02 Sold 29th May 2004 to make way for house

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Jun 24th, 2002, 12:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
davep MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Wokingham Local Time: 10:06 PM Posts: 140 Offline	My 330Ci had remote boot release - it only unlocked it and popped the boot about half an inch. It's not the same as Mercedes where the boot lid opens all the way once remotely unlatched. I guess it's the way BMW do things...

Jun 24th, 2002, 05:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
Addicted_to_S MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Scotland Local Time: 10:06 PM Posts: 212 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by An_S_4_Me Has anyone tried removing the parcel shelf and then trying the remote opening of the boot/hatch? Funny you should ask, I just tried it, or at least the same idea, by tilting a rear seat forward to achieve the same thing. And guess what, it makes not the slightest difference , so I'm afraid I don't buy into the story of the grill in the parcel shelf fix. At least I don't have to be sorry that Stonk hasn't got the grill. I don't think it's the vacuum effect holding the tailgate shut when you remote release, but rather its weight. The hydraulic lifts don't have enough mechanical advantage to raise the tailgate until it's opened a few inches. So when you pop the catch with the remote, technically it opens, but it just sits there and catches up again on the second stop as soon as you release the remote. Why I wish this feature would work is because the tailgate gets so filthy under normal driving conditions. So when you turn up for an important business meeting you get your attache case out of the boot of your Cooper S and go give Bill Gates, Richard Branson, Ted Turner or whoever a roadgrime-filthy handshake.

Jun 24th, 2002, 06:20 PM	#8 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 11:06 PM Posts: 24,964 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by AidenL I dont see the point of it myself........ It has to be top of the pointless features list. Global Moderator

Jun 24th, 2002, 06:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 08:06 AM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Hmmm, I know it's been discussed before, and I agree there's little point. On the other hand how many hatchbacks do you know that have a hatch popper that would allow the hatch to open fully "automaticaly". Martin L has I think hit the proverbial nail. Not only a safety issue, but you wouldn't want to be parked close in front of another car or even a wall and hit the button without thinking..... OUCH !!!. A "boot" on the other hand is an entirely different matter as it opens within the length of the car. (PS. I majored on the "Bleeding obvious" )

Jun 24th, 2002, 07:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 11:06 PM Posts: 24,964 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Basil Hmmm, I know it's been discussed before, and I agree there's little point. On the other hand how many hatchbacks do you know that have a hatch popper that would allow the hatch to open fully "automaticaly". Martin L has I think hit the proverbial nail. Not only a safety issue, but you wouldn't want to be parked close in front of another car or even a wall and hit the button without thinking..... OUCH !!!. A "boot" on the other hand is an entirely different matter as it opens within the length of the car. (PS. I majored on the "Bleeding obvious" ) So it's pointless. Global Moderator

Jun 24th, 2002, 07:36 PM	#11 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 08:06 AM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by LMB So it's pointless. .....almost completely.......

Jun 24th, 2002, 07:37 PM	#12 (permalink)
Addicted_to_S MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Scotland Local Time: 10:06 PM Posts: 212 Offline	...drop the almost!

Jun 24th, 2002, 07:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 08:06 AM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Ummm, I can't. Someone somewhere probably finds it useful for one reason or the other......doesn't it just open the hatch and leave the rest of the car locked for instance ? Do I have a point, or do I not have a point.

Jun 24th, 2002, 07:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 11:06 PM Posts: 24,964 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Basil Ummm, I can't. Someone somewhere probably finds it useful for one reason or the other......doesn't it just open the hatch and leave the rest of the car locked for instance ? Do I have a point, or do I not have a point. Go on Basil just admit it, it’s totally and utterly useless. Global Moderator

Jun 24th, 2002, 07:59 PM	#15 (permalink)
Coati1 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: SoCal Local Time: 02:06 PM Posts: 79 Offline	Is there an interior hatch release button, or is this remote feature likely to be my best bet for getting out of the back of car when I wake up in the morning? '03 Cooper S Chili Red/White, Sport Pack, Rally Lights, HK sound (Estimated build date 12/6/02) '02 WRX Wagon (24,000 miles in 12 months) '90 VW Corrado (180,000 miles in 12 years)

Jun 24th, 2002, 08:40 PM	#16 (permalink)
HarryHBMCC MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Guelph, Ontario, Can Local Time: 05:06 PM Posts: 2,686 Offline	I saw a post about the MINI here or elsewhere that said the grill at the back was to enhance the exhaust note -- there was no mention of the hatch opening easier, though that did sound like a better reason to me. Harry MINI Cooper Cabrio: now the car with go cart handling really feels like an open go cart! "... the only man that can come home at 3 am in the morning without getting into trouble with his spouse is the owner of a British sports car!" -- Phil Bailey

Jun 24th, 2002, 09:12 PM	#17 (permalink)
mia MINI2 Senior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: lower macungie, penn Local Time: 06:06 PM Posts: 474 Offline	Re: Why The Remote Hatch Opening ??? Quote: Originally posted by kshapiro The only way it would make sense is if it is supposed to actually go up (so you can load while your hands are full), but my hatch , when activated by remote key, only unlatched and moved about a half inch. Is that due to the pressure thing we've read about (with the grill in the boot cover remedy), or is it just another useless gimicky feature? BTW, I had mine reporogrammed to do windows opening from the remote. Now THAT'S a great feature when the heat index is over 100 like it is today...getting some air in before you get inside! help me! i need to know your dealer's name and build date b/c my dealer in nj is telling me that my key fab cannot be reprogrammed..which i'm not sure is the truth. if i have some info to throw at them, maybe the tune will change. thank you! 2002silkgreen/black cooper-cvt-premium-sport-xenon-ss+

Jun 24th, 2002, 09:19 PM	#18 (permalink)
wynnonna MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Miami, FL Local Time: 06:06 PM Posts: 191 Offline	Mia, While my dealer is not able to do ALL the features (missing software or such), he was able to do "comfort opening via remote" for the windows & sunroof & auto locking on start off. I'm in Miami, Florida and the dealer is South Motors MINI. Good luck! Cathy

Jun 24th, 2002, 09:35 PM	#19 (permalink)
mia MINI2 Senior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: lower macungie, penn Local Time: 06:06 PM Posts: 474 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by wynnonna Mia, While my dealer is not able to do ALL the features (missing software or such), he was able to do "comfort opening via remote" for the windows & sunroof & auto locking on start off. I'm in Miami, Florida and the dealer is South Motors MINI. Good luck! Cathy thanks for the info! mia 2002silkgreen/black cooper-cvt-premium-sport-xenon-ss+

Jun 24th, 2002, 09:37 PM	#20 (permalink)
Bad Ess MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Hampshire Seacoa Local Time: 06:06 PM Posts: 430 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by HarryIndiBlue I saw a post about the MINI here or elsewhere that said the grill at the back was to enhance the exhaust note -- there was no mention of the hatch opening easier, though that did sound like a better reason to me. Harry OK so there may be a new grill. Anybody know how the flow through ventilation works? My wife has a new beetle and the key button will unlock the boot so when you get to the car you just lift it to throw in the groceries. It is very handy. It beats messing with the key or opening the door to unlock the boot. The fault with the beetle is that you can't open without the key or tripping the inside release. The Mini is great with the rubber pad and electric control at the gate. Simple and water proof. If you want fancy look at the Lincoln Navigator. Now there's a barge full of gismos. Ess

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