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Old Apr 18th, 2006, 12:22 PM   #1
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New GT Tuning 6mm Wheel Spacers+ pics

Hi Guys, we now have in stock our own Gt Tuning 6mm anodised alloy wheel spacers. These are purpose designed solely for the Mini .Rather than a universal spacer that either doesnt locate on the hub properly and has more holes in it than a well nibbled piece of Gorgonzola cheese
-Useful for increasing track a little for potentially faster cornering speeds, or for giving extra caliper to wheel clearance when fitting big caliper/ disc kits (including ours!).
BTW Always use longer bolts even with 5 or 6mm spacers. Price £29+vat per pair, 40 pairs in stock!
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Old Apr 18th, 2006, 01:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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How do these work without the hub centric locator?
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Old Apr 18th, 2006, 02:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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obehave, my guess is that the centre is the same size as a MINI hub (56.1mm) Therefore no need for a fitting ring. You would abviously still need one on whatever wheel you ran though, unless its a stock item or one with an actual 56.1mm hub.

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Old Apr 18th, 2006, 03:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Richard Crofts
obehave, my guess is that the centre is the same size as a MINI hub (56.1mm) Therefore no need for a fitting ring. You would abviously still need one on whatever wheel you ran though, unless its a stock item or one with an actual 56.1mm hub.

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Understood but....

The OEM hub is maybe 10-12mm tall. If you remove half of that then the support for the wheel is quite reduced. Not sure I'd like that on the street much less the track.
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Old Apr 18th, 2006, 04:35 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Hi Guys upto maximum 6mm on a Mini you have to use ' flat disc' type spacers. You cannot have a spigoted spacer (that has any strength ) less than circa 14mm thick. There is a 'black hole' in spacer width between around 7mm & 13mm, where it is too thick to be plain disc yet to thin to be spigoted (hubcentric). I had the pleasure of cutting another companys 10mm thick wheel spacer for a TT in half to prove the point ,at the thinest point the wall section was .016" (0.4mm ) thick!
With 'plain disc' spacers there is still around 5-6mm of location depth in the centre, however as most wheels have a chamfer around the bore this can reduce down to say 2-3mm ,that is perfectly OK . On my car I have 2mm of engagement depth, bear in mind the hub has a steel ring with a wall thickness all the way round of about 5mm ! You are never going to shear that off, even if the wheel bolts were all backed off a half a turn.. A little trick with most aftermarket wheels is to reverse the locator ring in the centre of the wheel so the location no longer has a huge chamfer. I do it on all my OZ wheels, just need to remove the spring clip grind the little lip off, then tap the rings back in back to front
No centre engagement at all is not good and not recommended.
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Old Apr 18th, 2006, 05:04 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003
There is a 'black hole' in spacer width between around 7mm & 13mm, where it is too thick to be plain disc yet to thin to be spigoted (hubcentric). I had the pleasure of cutting another companys 10mm thick wheel spacer for a TT in half to prove the point ,at the thinest point the wall section was .016" (0.4mm ) thick!

So what's the safest way to run a 10mm spacer?

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Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003
Hi Guys upto maximum 6mm on a Mini you have to use ' flat disc' type spacers. You cannot have a spigoted spacer (that has any strength ) less than circa 14mm thick. There is a 'black hole' in spacer width between around 7mm & 13mm, where it is too thick to be plain disc yet to thin to be spigoted (hubcentric). I had the pleasure of cutting another companys 10mm thick wheel spacer for a TT in half to prove the point ,at the thinest point the wall section was .016" (0.4mm ) thick!
With 'plain disc' spacers there is still around 5-6mm of location depth in the centre, however as most wheels have a chamfer around the bore this can reduce down to say 2-3mm ,that is perfectly OK . On my car I have 2mm of engagement depth, bear in mind the hub has a steel ring with a wall thickness all the way round of about 5mm ! You are never going to shear that off, even if the wheel bolts were all backed off a half a turn.. A little trick with most aftermarket wheels is to reverse the locator ring in the centre of the wheel so the location no longer has a huge chamfer. I do it on all my OZ wheels, just need to remove the spring clip grind the little lip off, then tap the rings back in back to front
No centre engagement at all is not good and not recommended.
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Thanks Roland
That is what I was looking for.
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Old Apr 19th, 2006, 12:49 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Hi Partsman, there is no safe way.
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Hey everyone, was looking into spacing my wheels out a touch to have a better stance on the road. Anyone know if the wheels will need alighned or tracking done etc. or any other problems?

I drive a Cooper S with 18" JCW alloys, any recommendations about spacing distance, longer bolts etc?

help would be appreciated.

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Old Apr 20th, 2006, 12:18 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Roland - how much do longer bolts cost? - do you stock them?

and are all four recommended? (I would like to widen the rear track a touch)
17" S-spokes , not lowered.

would you be able to visibly tell with 6mm each side?

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Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003
Hi Partsman, there is no safe way.
Regards Roland GTT

Thanks Roland.
After I did some math, i'm thinking 10mm is too much anyway.
I think 6 to 8mm will be good enough for the 48 offset on the webspokes.

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Old Apr 20th, 2006, 03:19 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Hi Guys, ultimatley track width is depentant on wheel offset AND spacer width. Personally I prefer to widen the front about 15-20mm (overall) more than the back. So for most applications I would recommend 15mm spacers on the front (30mm overall) and 6mm on the back (12mm overall).
With my car the wheels are 37mm offset already so the backs without any spacers are around 10mm per wheel (20mm overall) wider than a stock MCS already. On the front which has our GTT /Porsche big brake kit (which gains 2mm per wheel) we then add GTT 6mm spacers. This means we gain 10mm from the wheel choice+ 2mm from the BB Kit + 6mm spacer= 18mm a wheel (36mm overall) wider than a stock car.
In summary Im circa 36mm wider than a typical MCS at the front & 20mm at the rear.
No wonder it handles so well.!
The front to back 'difference' I have is still less than a STANDARD Pug 205 1.9 GTi, they are about 32mm difference. The Mini as standard is almost identical track width front & rear
We sell various length wheel bolts, please ring for prices (plenty in stock)
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Hey Roland, I'm after wheel spacers (well chuffed with my GTT CAI kit!). I have a cooper s with stock S Spoke wheels (205/45 R17) and suspension- what do i need to get a nice wide looking stance front and rear? and whats the cost!! Cheers!!
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