[roland2003]

Hi guys, heres a couple of pics of the airbox weve designed & made as part of the forthcoming GTT300 Turbo conversion. It sits right where the intercooler would normally sit, on top bang in the middle, so is very visable and the visual centre piece of the conversion.. The existing scoop is used to feed it with lots of cold air.Sizewise the cotton gauze element is double the size of the stock MCS panel & is good for flowing near 400bhp.
The element is fully fully washable , the cover is mirror polished Stainless Steel and the box fabricated from Aluminium. -This will be powder coated (blue or black). The outlet to the turbo will not be a 2 or 3 inch round hole but a much larger oval shape.
Best Regards Roland GTT

[Bhozar]

Very shiney. How is performance going to be effected when its soaked from water going through the scoop? I know my IC steams when it gets wet, so a fair bit of water must go through.

[Damo]

Didn't BBR do that with their Turbo conversion

Looks a bit small, com[pared to this one


Click for bigger picture.

[Ant FR]

the water would concern me, but i assume Roland has a solution to that, .......

and it is............

?

[roland2003]

Damo How on earth can you assume the GTT is smaller from a photograph with nothing else in the picture (rular) to scale it against? Actually the GTT one is bigger (450x260mm) AND deeper (60mm) AND has an outlet with a cross sectional area of near double the BBR one. As I said the element we use will flow enough air to produce near 400bhp (K&Ns figures not ours) so how can that be too small?
Cotton gauze elements are perfectly ok with a fews drips (or more) of rain,tbh you get more water going through the filter of every car on the road on a thick (pea soup) foggy morning, and dont even think about it. The effect of the water is free water injection system so is a no bad thing.
Best Regards Roland GTT

[:: Jon ::]

I dont like it... it would suit a Scooby better...

[roland2003]

Its put there as this is the best place to put a filter on a turbo conversion on a Mini. ie Big intake area, no hot air from the engine bay. Sorry you dont like the look, (the photo doesnt do it justice) , it is a lot better solution than a bolt on 'max power' cone in the middle of a hot engine bay .
Best Regards Roland GTT

[:: Jon ::]

Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original)

it is a lot better solution than a bolt on 'max power' cone in the middle of a hot engine bay .

you want to watch what you say... as your not doing yourself any favours saying this as you sell these "MAX POWER add ons

[roland2003]

We dont sell any 'Max Power' bolt on Universal cones filters. All GTT filters are bespoke designs to achieve the best performance for each application. Based on achieving the lowest pressure drop, good filtration, and the lowest temp air entering it. Combined with good engineering and ease of servicing (cleaning).
Best Regards Roland GTT

[Damo]

Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original)

Damo How on earth can you assume the GTT is smaller from a photograph with nothing else in the picture (rular) to scale it against? Actually the GTT one is bigger (450x260mm) AND deeper (60mm) AND has an outlet with a cross sectional area of near double the BBR one. As I said the element we use will flow enough air to produce near 400bhp (K&Ns figures not ours) so how can that be too small?
Cotton gauze elements are perfectly ok with a fews drips (or more) of rain,tbh you get more water going through the filter of every car on the road on a thick (pea soup) foggy morning, and dont even think about it. The effect of the water is free water injection system so is a no bad thing.
Best Regards Roland GTT

I never assumed it was smaller. To be fair roland I was simply stating it "looked" smaller, but then your right I have nothing to compare it to (neither does anyone else) as it wasn't on a car! Maybe a ruler in the picture as you suggested would of been a good idea in the first place

Maybe my reply wasn't worded well, my bad. But as for yours A simple "ahh the picture doesn't show its size well, its actually x times bigger" would of been a better reply

But I stand by my comment, it DOES looks smaller, maybe a new picture with something in it (like a ruler like you suggested) to put them in perspective would be good. I can talk numbers all day, but sometimes seeing is better

[GTT 280]

Come on everybody, don't give Mr GTT a hard time here, he's allowing you to see his latest developments and all you're doing is slatting them.

I mean, "Looks better on a scooby" - poor comment geez !!
"Mines bigger than yours" -

Agreed, you can only make an air filter look so good - it's not Cameron Diaz by any stretch of the imagination, what it is is a functional piece of metal and fabric, and from the specification provided so far, we can also see it is far and above anything else we have seen in this category for the BMW MINI.

I like the idea of the moisture on the air filter via the bonnet scoop- will the additional fluid assit in reducing the temperature of the fuel/air mix in the detonation chamber helping to reduce the detontation timing - similar to that of a higher octane fuel?? Some people pay great amounts of cash to have a water mist injected into the fuel mix - it absorbs the temp.

I know from previous cars that a damp day always seem to give better response in the engine - similar to those blue sky days too hey Roland!

Cheers,
K.

[Root Ginger]

Looking very good Roland. I must admit the photo does make it look small but once you get the car up and running then we'll see the scale anyway.

Everything you're saying already is whetting my appetite, keep up the good work Roland.

[Damo]

Quote: Originally Posted by GTT 260 (original)

Come on everybody, don't give Mr GTT a hard time here, he's allowing you to see his latest developments and all you're doing is slatting them.

I mean, "Looks better on a scooby" - poor comment geez !!
"Mines bigger than yours" -

Agreed, you can only make an air filter look so good - it's not Cameron Diaz by any stretch of the imagination, what it is is a functional piece of metal and fabric, and from the specification provided so far, we can also see it is far and above anything else we have seen in this category for the BMW MINI.

I like the idea of the moisture on the air filter via the bonnet scoop- will the additional fluid assit in reducing the temperature of the fuel/air mix in the detonation chamber helping to reduce the detontation timing - similar to that of a higher octane fuel?? Some people pay great amounts of cash to have a water mist injected into the fuel mix - it absorbs the temp.

I know from previous cars that a damp day always seem to give better response in the engine - similar to those blue sky days too hey Roland!

Cheers,
K.

Wasn't slating Roland in the slightest, just saying what I saw. Plus I liked the idea in theory when I saw the BBR version, and couldn't imagine Roland doing anything smaller.

Was expecting a response of either something like "Smaller but better because...", or "its bigger just the picture doesn't show it."

I wasn't expecting (and I could of read into it wrong so asked someone elses opinion first) to what i feel was an aggressive response.

Like I said maybe my initial post was worded badly. I just wanted some perspective on its size, and was showing it was something BBR tried, both key points.

Can't vouch for Jono, but then again he could have a point...in that watch how he posts stuff (as we all could).

[GTT 280]

...the end.

[MINI-Morgan]

I guess even off turbo your running forced induction at 60mph

I'm sure a hot turbo will turn most water into vapor but still bothers my mind in seriously bad weather.

Looks good so far though

[Aberdeen Al]

I don't want to get into any arguements or take sides but I think it looks great and once the remainder of the kit is shown, bolted onto the car and we get a review of how it performs / handles I'm sure there will be a lot more discussion!

[roland2003]

No problem Damo,
Of course we will be testing the conversion in a true British summer so need need to be concerned guys.
Best Regards Roland GTT