Brand new -GTT '3 in 1' Top Front Suspension Mounts+pics!

[roland2003]

Hi Guys, Im currently working on new GTT '3 in 1' Top Suspension Mounts ,these have to be ready for testing on the CC Mini action day at the end of the month, so I'm completing all drawings this week, and we'll be cutting metal the following week.
We call them '3 in1' as there are 3 issues with the stock mounts we want to illiminate all in one product.
1) GTT mounts will use large heavy duty spherical bearings...this allows 12 degrees of misalignment with zero positional deviation of the rotational centre point. You can never achieve this with a mount that has any sort of rubber or other compliment material encompassing a conventional ball race. -No rubber also means no chance of wearing or splitting.
2) GTT mount design includes effective 'Anti Mushroom' . -The GTT top mount flange is much thicker than other designs ,but more importanty ,it spans right out to the edges and into the corners of the bodywork towers. This will make a huge difference .It spreads the load over a greater area and pushes where the bodywork is stongest...in the corners. Any reinforcement needs to be UNDER the tower, a thick plate clamped on top (even 2 inches thick and made of kryptonite) isnt going to do very much, except look strong.
3) We are increasing camber from stock 0.5 deg to 1.0 deg. TBH this is IMO the perfect setup for fast road & trackdays. Your not going to trash your tyres because of the minimal increase on the road,and thats plenty enough for the track. If we can muller everything on the track on the stock 0.5 deg think what 1.0 deg may achieve. I have tried 2 deg and it slowed me down, IMO too much but it depends how you drive.
If your in a race series and want (and are prepared to adjust every time) fully adjustable camber these are not for you. If we design them fully adjustable , we would compromise either compatability (ours fit any strut /spring that fits stock top mounts) or the substantial build with 360 degrees of support on all parts.
Mind you Ive just had a thought...how about 2 position mounts ? One set of bolt holes to give 0.75 deg and the other 1.25 deg . ...Yep I think we can do that......off back to the drawing board . BTW We dont want caster to change so Im not doing eccentrics..
.see you later.

Best Regards Roland GTT

[Fabio]

thats great news , i was looking for some camber for track day s

[roland2003]

Hi,Yes I think we can (and therefore will) have 2 position camber. There will be 2 sets of bolt holes in the flange . I hanvt got the r53 at home today but I think the centre hole in the tower will be big enough to allow you change between the 2 settings without removing the struts.
If we want to get clever we can even design another version with adjustable ride height ..or at least 2 position height quite easily. We could have say -12mm. The reason I say -12mm is its possible to reduce ride height on the rear by 12mm too. Therefore you could lower 12mm all round and still be on stock springs!
Anyway that parts for another day... Ive got coilovers which have adjustable height.
..off to make my 'fag packet drawings' (I dont smoke ) into proper ones now.
We will be making 12 sets on the initial batch.
Best Regards Roland GTT

[Pobsey]

Sounds very interesting

[alski]

how much to supply and fit?

[Fabio]

Are they for the r56??

[Pobsey]

Quote: Originally Posted by Fabio (original)

Are they for the r56??

Dont think so as Roland posted in the r50,52 and 53 area and he mentioned that the R53 wasn't at home with him

[Fabio]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pobsey (original)

Dont think so as Roland posted in the r50,52 and 53 area and he mentioned that the R53 wasn't at home with him

oops ...i never checked the area.. i'll need them for the GP

[roland2003]

Hi ideas , no idea (at all) of pricing as yet. Both camber settings (0.75 or 1.25 deg) should be able to be used even on stock/eibach springs. All drawings complete (seven parts) , should be in production by Friday.
Best Rehards Roland GTT

[Fabio]

Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original)

Hi ideas , no idea (at all) of pricing as yet. Both camber settings (0.75 or 1.25 deg) should be able to be used even on stock/eibach springs. All drawings complete (seven parts) , should be in production by Friday.
Best Rehards Roland GTT

you can put my name down for a set

[Bhozar]

Would be good to se a set on, and off, the car at the MINI Action Day at the end of the month. Feel free to bring along any new products, you can store them in my boot while on the track

[Cooooooperslad]

Roland, are you going to Ultimate BMW show? as you do own one of the most Ultimate MINIs in the world... how can you not go?

[roland2003]

Sorry no... (maybe? next year).....Mini Action Day at CC is the next one..
We will bring a set of new GTT Top Mounts to this for people to see.
Best Regards Roland GTT

[Roofas]

Sorry if this is an innane question, but will this fit aftermarket suspension? Also, do you have a rough price for the mounts?

[Cooooooperslad]

Roland, how many thousands of miles will you test these for?