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Old Nov 8th, 2007, 07:15 PM   #1
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GTT300T on the RR at Superchips today! - 391bhp+ graphs

Hi Guys been a very long day , we left at 6am this morning and have just got through the door.
We took a customers GTT300+ for final mapping and power run. Also spent a few hours talking with Jamie the superchips MD about Rolling Roads /wheel horsepower/corrected power & measuring the losses. They have a 550bhp MAHA LPS3000 rolling road.
There were 2 problems encountered firstly their fan is very weedy, (and aimed too high for our front mount) the second was we had to use 6th gear (yes SIXTH) gear to stop the wheels spinning on the rollers, even after 15 or 20 attempts even fith gear was hopeless. In the end I let the tyres down to 20 psi and then the ultra stick (and very hot) R888's gripped most of the time if you feathered the throttle .
On a side note I can now 101% confirm that a wheels horsepower figure is absolutly totally & completly meaningingless (even more so than I thought last week). If the guys over the pond want to harp on about WHP we can carry this on on another thread. Also dont confuse corrected power with 'WHP with measured losses added on'......its a .completly different thing.
Also single roller RR's (dynojet) with give a noticably higher WHP figure than the twin roller type we have over here..
Oh power (& torque), you'll have to wait until tommorow.....What do you think?
Boost was 21psi BTW, no fudging, no icepacks on intercoolers (yes you!), no race fuel, (Tesco 99), no high tyre pressures.......I did try that but much toooo much power for that one.
GRAPHS ADDED>>>SEE POST 76

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Old Nov 8th, 2007, 07:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Come on Roland you can't keep us in suspense :-)

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Old Nov 8th, 2007, 07:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I reckon about 332bhp

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Old Nov 8th, 2007, 07:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Aberdeen Al (original)
I reckon about 332bhp

332.7 bhp Maybe we should start a betting book ... winner gets the 300T kit .... Handy, I'm down on Saturday LOL

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Old Nov 8th, 2007, 08:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Ok £50 GTT voucher if anyone can get power AND torque within 'five' . Or £20 voucher if you can get either power or torque within 'five' . One try each guys.....bit of fun so no cheating (yeah like you would) .Put BP ultimate in on way home seemed even quicker than the Tesco for some reason.
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Old Nov 8th, 2007, 08:07 PM   #6 (permalink)
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312bhp, 360lbft.

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Old Nov 8th, 2007, 08:09 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Aberdeen Al (original)
I reckon about 332bhp

Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original)
Ok £50 GTT voucher if anyone can get power AND torque within 'five' . Or £20 voucher if you can get either power or torque within 'five' . One try each guys.....bit of fun so no cheating (yeah like you would) .Put BP ultimate in on way home seemed even quicker than the Tesco for some reason.

I'll also say 345lb/ft torque.

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Old Nov 8th, 2007, 08:25 PM   #8 (permalink)
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332.7 bhp Maybe we should start a betting book ... winner gets the 300T kit .... Handy, I'm down on Saturday LOL

Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original)
Ok £50 GTT voucher if anyone can get power AND torque within 'five' . Or £20 voucher if you can get either power or torque within 'five' . One try each guys.....bit of fun so no cheating (yeah like you would) .Put BP ultimate in on way home seemed even quicker than the Tesco for some reason.

Earlier BHP + 370 torque

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Old Nov 8th, 2007, 08:31 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Old Nov 8th, 2007, 08:39 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Well if the tyres will only grip in 6th it show how pointless the car will be on the road.

270bhp and thats at the wheels, after all thats what a dyno measures!!!
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Old Nov 8th, 2007, 08:51 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old Nov 8th, 2007, 08:54 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Old Nov 8th, 2007, 08:57 PM   #13 (permalink)
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309bhp 333 lb ft torque.
Was wondering why the phone wasnt being answered all day lol. Need to order a boost gauge
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Old Nov 8th, 2007, 09:00 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Old Nov 8th, 2007, 09:25 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Old Nov 8th, 2007, 10:50 PM   #18 (permalink)
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