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cyuen · Oct 14th, 2004, 12:54 PM

just got another toy, ordered a purple (new colour) 05 cooper s, also ordered the full AmD 275hp conversion to be installed as soon as i get the car

anyone runnin amd stuff in hk?

bought too many toys lately la

gotta stop soon haha

walexis · Oct 16th, 2004, 10:53 AM

Congratulations!!!

When will your MCS arrive?
Just wondering how long the waiting list is now.

amdCS · Oct 16th, 2004, 11:11 AM

haha sorry ar, i m living in new zealand at the moment, coming back to hk in dec
anyway in nz there isn't much of a wait, jan is the next shipment

but i will consider buying another one in hk to run around in when i m back

Hubert · Oct 17th, 2004, 04:42 AM

Hi,

I think you're better off buying a 147GTA instead of buying a MCS and spend hell loads modifying it. This is money you cannot recoup, and reliability is unknown.

Finding a shop that you can trust to do a good conversion without missing a bolt is another problem.

I heard of someone with the BBR275 in the UK, and the car broke down after 1000km. Don't know the details though. Didn't bother to find out anyway.

amdCS · Oct 17th, 2004, 05:01 AM

hows it man,
yeh 147 GTA is cool, we are family friends with Kingsway cars in hk who sells Alfa, Lambo

but i don't need that, i have a S3 and a RS4 so, this is just for the hell of it hehe.

wongakh · Oct 19th, 2004, 03:01 AM

Test drove the 147GTA last month. The car is real fast with lots of power and "characteristic"! If resell value is not a concern, I would say 147GTA would be a great choice!

Hubert · Oct 19th, 2004, 04:15 AM

The V6 offers a lot of low end torque that the MCS is lacking, which is exactly what you need in the city. OK...the resale value for any car will be poor when compared to the Minis, but I don't think it would be too difficult to sell the GTA for a good price if you can find the right buyer.

wongakh · Oct 19th, 2004, 06:05 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Hubert

The V6 offers a lot of low end torque that the MCS is lacking, which is exactly what you need in the city. OK...the resale value for any car will be poor when compared to the Minis, but I don't think it would be too difficult to sell the GTA for a good price if you can find the right buyer.

Hubert, want to do a group buy of 147GTA?

I am seriously considering of getting one! But, still struggling with the reliability and resell value of Alfa!

Hubert · Oct 19th, 2004, 06:27 AM

I know 2 owners of the 156 and they both said that the reliability of Alfa cars has improved a lot since the 156. I did consider this car before, and I was advised to take the manual and not the Selespeed, which some say it doesn't work very well.

There're two Alfa clubs in HK, each with their own website. You might want some feedback from the owners first.

Well, if you buy a white one, you'll know that somebody will buy it off you when you come to sell it

ERdoc · Oct 20th, 2004, 04:50 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by wongakh

Hubert, want to do a group buy of 147GTA?

I am seriously considering of getting one! But, still struggling with the reliability and resell value of Alfa!

Very nice, but just don't have an accident in one:

http://www.euro-ncap.com/details.php3?id=car_108_2001

wongakh · Oct 20th, 2004, 07:03 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ERdoc

Very nice, but just don't have an accident in one:

http://www.euro-ncap.com/details.php3?id=car_108_2001

Apart from the reliability and resell value, this one would be the most important factor need to be considered too!

What do you guys think of the new Golf GTi?

walexis · Oct 20th, 2004, 10:24 AM

New Golf GTI... hmmm....
Don't like the front. Has that "Audi front grill", a very big black nose.
Also a bit to large for me, I saw a Golf 2.0 FSI at the car park last week.
However I do like the new DSG transmission, this would be perfect for HK roads.

Wonder how much it would cost in HK.

Hubert · Oct 21st, 2004, 07:25 AM

Golf GTi? No thanks. You better stick to your Mini

ERDoc, you must've considered buying the GTA before, haven't you?

wongakh · Oct 21st, 2004, 07:54 AM

The new GTi look hugh from pictures and not sure what it would look like in real, the only sweat thing I can think of this car at this point of time is its 200HP and DSG gearbox. I was told by the VW sales that you can put in deposit and it is est. at $300K.

amdCS · Oct 21st, 2004, 10:40 AM

i have driven the Mk5 range, not the GTi though, n i have 2 Mk4, It is definately a better car in all respect.

I will be provided with a mK5 GTi for our company, so i will let you guys know if its a worth while buy or not (we do vw mods n so forth for the dealership in nz)

KarmanS · Oct 21st, 2004, 01:55 PM

I'd still take a MCS with the new JCW package please

The Astra 2.0 turbo with 200hp that's coming out early next year is a nice offering in the hot hatch segment as well if you insist on additional versatility offered in a 4 door hatchback.

cliffywong · Oct 22nd, 2004, 04:09 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ERdoc

Very nice, but just don't have an accident in one:

http://www.euro-ncap.com/details.php3?id=car_108_2001

ERdoc,

You really know how to ruin a person's choice of cars.

ERdoc · Oct 23rd, 2004, 04:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by cliffywong

ERdoc,

You really know how to ruin a person's choice of cars.

Despite my respect for Alfas, I just don't wish to meet any potential Alfa owners on a PROFESSIONAL basis. ;-)

Cheers,

ER Doc :-)

walexis · Oct 24th, 2004, 04:16 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by KarmanS

I'd still take a MCS with the new JCW package please

The Astra 2.0 turbo with 200hp that's coming out early next year is a nice offering in the hot hatch segment as well if you insist on additional versatility offered in a 4 door hatchback.

There should be a 220hp version coming out also, but with 3 doors. Much better looking then the golf gti.
Now if they could spice up the interior.....

ERdoc,

Agree with you, I really don't want to meet you on a professional basis.

Fast and goodlooking cars are great, but protection is mandatory.

KarmanS · Oct 24th, 2004, 10:28 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by walexis

There should be a 220hp version coming out also, but with 3 doors. Much better looking then the golf gti.
Now if they could spice up the interior.....

The 3 door version (codename GTC), if at all a business feasible model to come to the HK market, will not appear locally until MY '06. That Lotus tuned chassis and 250bhp engine I've been reading about in the OPC version of the GTC sounds very enticing too, not to mention the non-coupe Astra already gaining a 5 star safety rating in the EuroNCAP.

The 5-dr variant of the Astra is slated to arrive to our roads within the first two months of '05.

Apologies for going slightly off course from the original topic of this thread.

Oct 14th, 2004, 12:54 PM	#1
cyuen MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Local Time: 11:50 PM Posts: 9 Offline	Ordered a cooper s :D just got another toy, ordered a purple (new colour) 05 cooper s, also ordered the full AmD 275hp conversion to be installed as soon as i get the car anyone runnin amd stuff in hk? bought too many toys lately la gotta stop soon haha

Oct 17th, 2004, 04:42 AM	#4 (permalink)
Hubert Track Junkie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Hong Kong Local Time: 07:50 AM Posts: 555 Offline	Hi, I think you're better off buying a 147GTA instead of buying a MCS and spend hell loads modifying it. This is money you cannot recoup, and reliability is unknown. Finding a shop that you can trust to do a good conversion without missing a bolt is another problem. I heard of someone with the BBR275 in the UK, and the car broke down after 1000km. Don't know the details though. Didn't bother to find out anyway. Road: 2002 MCS with KW V2 and other bolt-ons Track: Lotus Elise race car

Oct 19th, 2004, 04:15 AM	#7 (permalink)
Hubert Track Junkie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Hong Kong Local Time: 07:50 AM Posts: 555 Offline	The V6 offers a lot of low end torque that the MCS is lacking, which is exactly what you need in the city. OK...the resale value for any car will be poor when compared to the Minis, but I don't think it would be too difficult to sell the GTA for a good price if you can find the right buyer. Road: 2002 MCS with KW V2 and other bolt-ons Track: Lotus Elise race car

Oct 19th, 2004, 06:27 AM	#9 (permalink)
Hubert Track Junkie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Hong Kong Local Time: 07:50 AM Posts: 555 Offline	I know 2 owners of the 156 and they both said that the reliability of Alfa cars has improved a lot since the 156. I did consider this car before, and I was advised to take the manual and not the Selespeed, which some say it doesn't work very well. There're two Alfa clubs in HK, each with their own website. You might want some feedback from the owners first. Well, if you buy a white one, you'll know that somebody will buy it off you when you come to sell it Road: 2002 MCS with KW V2 and other bolt-ons Track: Lotus Elise race car

Oct 20th, 2004, 04:50 AM	#10 (permalink)
ERdoc MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Hong Kong Local Time: 07:50 AM Posts: 126 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by wongakh Hubert, want to do a group buy of 147GTA? I am seriously considering of getting one! But, still struggling with the reliability and resell value of Alfa! Very nice, but just don't have an accident in one: http://www.euro-ncap.com/details.php3?id=car_108_2001 '03 DS/B MCS

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Oct 16th, 2004, 10:53 AM	#2 (permalink)
walexis MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2004 Local Time: 07:50 AM Posts: 74 Offline	Congratulations!!! When will your MCS arrive? Just wondering how long the waiting list is now.

Oct 16th, 2004, 11:11 AM	#3 (permalink)
amdCS MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Local Time: 11:50 PM Posts: 27 Offline	haha sorry ar, i m living in new zealand at the moment, coming back to hk in dec anyway in nz there isn't much of a wait, jan is the next shipment but i will consider buying another one in hk to run around in when i m back

Oct 17th, 2004, 05:01 AM	#5 (permalink)
amdCS MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Local Time: 11:50 PM Posts: 27 Offline	hows it man, yeh 147 GTA is cool, we are family friends with Kingsway cars in hk who sells Alfa, Lambo but i don't need that, i have a S3 and a RS4 so, this is just for the hell of it hehe.

Oct 19th, 2004, 03:01 AM	#6 (permalink)
wongakh Mini Black Join Date: Aug 2002 Local Time: 07:50 AM Posts: 242 Offline	Test drove the 147GTA last month. The car is real fast with lots of power and "characteristic"! If resell value is not a concern, I would say 147GTA would be a great choice!

Oct 19th, 2004, 06:05 AM	#8 (permalink)
wongakh Mini Black Join Date: Aug 2002 Local Time: 07:50 AM Posts: 242 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Hubert The V6 offers a lot of low end torque that the MCS is lacking, which is exactly what you need in the city. OK...the resale value for any car will be poor when compared to the Minis, but I don't think it would be too difficult to sell the GTA for a good price if you can find the right buyer. Hubert, want to do a group buy of 147GTA? I am seriously considering of getting one! But, still struggling with the reliability and resell value of Alfa!

Oct 20th, 2004, 07:03 AM	#11 (permalink)
wongakh Mini Black Join Date: Aug 2002 Local Time: 07:50 AM Posts: 242 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ERdoc Very nice, but just don't have an accident in one: http://www.euro-ncap.com/details.php3?id=car_108_2001 Apart from the reliability and resell value, this one would be the most important factor need to be considered too! What do you guys think of the new Golf GTi?

Oct 20th, 2004, 10:24 AM	#12 (permalink)
walexis MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2004 Local Time: 07:50 AM Posts: 74 Offline	New Golf GTI... hmmm.... Don't like the front. Has that "Audi front grill", a very big black nose. Also a bit to large for me, I saw a Golf 2.0 FSI at the car park last week. However I do like the new DSG transmission, this would be perfect for HK roads. Wonder how much it would cost in HK.

Oct 21st, 2004, 07:25 AM	#13 (permalink)
Hubert Track Junkie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Hong Kong Local Time: 07:50 AM Posts: 555 Offline	Golf GTi? No thanks. You better stick to your Mini ERDoc, you must've considered buying the GTA before, haven't you? Road: 2002 MCS with KW V2 and other bolt-ons Track: Lotus Elise race car

Oct 21st, 2004, 07:54 AM	#14 (permalink)
wongakh Mini Black Join Date: Aug 2002 Local Time: 07:50 AM Posts: 242 Offline	The new GTi look hugh from pictures and not sure what it would look like in real, the only sweat thing I can think of this car at this point of time is its 200HP and DSG gearbox. I was told by the VW sales that you can put in deposit and it is est. at $300K.

Oct 21st, 2004, 10:40 AM	#15 (permalink)
amdCS MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Local Time: 11:50 PM Posts: 27 Offline	i have driven the Mk5 range, not the GTi though, n i have 2 Mk4, It is definately a better car in all respect. I will be provided with a mK5 GTi for our company, so i will let you guys know if its a worth while buy or not (we do vw mods n so forth for the dealership in nz)

Oct 21st, 2004, 01:55 PM	#16 (permalink)
KarmanS MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: HKG Local Time: 07:50 AM Posts: 1,366 Offline	I'd still take a MCS with the new JCW package please The Astra 2.0 turbo with 200hp that's coming out early next year is a nice offering in the hot hatch segment as well if you insist on additional versatility offered in a 4 door hatchback.

Oct 22nd, 2004, 04:09 PM	#17 (permalink)
cliffywong MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2003 Location: H.K. Local Time: 07:50 AM Posts: 524 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ERdoc Very nice, but just don't have an accident in one: http://www.euro-ncap.com/details.php3?id=car_108_2001 ERdoc, You really know how to ruin a person's choice of cars.

Oct 23rd, 2004, 04:18 PM	#18 (permalink)
ERdoc MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Hong Kong Local Time: 07:50 AM Posts: 126 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by cliffywong ERdoc, You really know how to ruin a person's choice of cars. Despite my respect for Alfas, I just don't wish to meet any potential Alfa owners on a PROFESSIONAL basis. ;-) Cheers, ER Doc :-) '03 DS/B MCS

Oct 24th, 2004, 04:16 AM	#19 (permalink)
walexis MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2004 Local Time: 07:50 AM Posts: 74 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by KarmanS I'd still take a MCS with the new JCW package please The Astra 2.0 turbo with 200hp that's coming out early next year is a nice offering in the hot hatch segment as well if you insist on additional versatility offered in a 4 door hatchback. There should be a 220hp version coming out also, but with 3 doors. Much better looking then the golf gti. Now if they could spice up the interior..... ERdoc, Agree with you, I really don't want to meet you on a professional basis. Fast and goodlooking cars are great, but protection is mandatory.

Oct 24th, 2004, 10:28 AM	#20 (permalink)
KarmanS MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: HKG Local Time: 07:50 AM Posts: 1,366 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by walexis There should be a 220hp version coming out also, but with 3 doors. Much better looking then the golf gti. Now if they could spice up the interior..... The 3 door version (codename GTC), if at all a business feasible model to come to the HK market, will not appear locally until MY '06. That Lotus tuned chassis and 250bhp engine I've been reading about in the OPC version of the GTC sounds very enticing too, not to mention the non-coupe Astra already gaining a 5 star safety rating in the EuroNCAP. The 5-dr variant of the Astra is slated to arrive to our roads within the first two months of '05. Apologies for going slightly off course from the original topic of this thread.

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