[mckeg4]

Morning All,

I need some help in deciding which is the best cost effective speed camera detector to save my licence.

Cheers

HT

[Paul]

Most cost effective way to not get a speeding ticket has to be slowing down. Saves fuel, and you wont get caught breaking the law because you're not.

The Garmin Micro Road Pilot seems quite popular, but check out www.newministuff.com for a wide choice and some good advice if you need it from Mikey.

[mikeythemini]

We now have the new Micro GO - will post a thread & pics shortly
Have just fitted mine & colink's
Report back shortly

[Mini Soph]

I've got a Road Angel! It's been er...."tried and tested" for 70K.... Tis good...BUT the Laser alert goes mental on it's own sometimes the same as the old school Snoopers. Still worth it tho :d

PS...My licence is clean...Somehow!! So they must be alright lol!

[twig]

Quote: Originally Posted by mckeg4

Morning All,

I need some help in deciding which is the best cost effective speed camera detector to save my licence.


HT

Lets get this right. YOU are asking everyone to help you BREAK THE LAW??? That makes anyone who helps you part of a conspiracy.

What u thinking?

[lcubed]

the traffic cam situation seems to be overkill in the UK.

if you download the traffic cam POI databases for the UK,
they seem to be everywhere.

[PaulusMaximus]

Quote: Originally Posted by mckeg4

I need some help in deciding which is the best cost effective speed camera detector to save my licence.

Bless you, my friend. We all understand!!!!

[Dec]

If you aren't observant enough to slow down in time for the cameras you shouldn't be driving that fast.

There all visible enough or in accident black spots where u shouldn't be going that fast anyway (you can tell these easy enough by sign warning of turnings off etc hardly rocket science). ok there are some that seem to be in just a long straight and so not an accident black spot but there easy enough to see if u have ur eyes open, and if not i hope u do get caught. I don't mind people driving fast if there observant enough to react to things that happen and such people should see the cameras. And in 30/40mph u haven't really got a leg to stand on IMO...

/rant

Dec

[bimini]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dec

If you aren't observant enough to slow down in time for the cameras you shouldn't be driving that fast.

There all visible enough or in accident black spots where u shouldn't be going that fast anyway (you can tell these easy enough by sign warning of turnings off etc hardly rocket science). ok there are some that seem to be in just a long straight and so not an accident black spot but there easy enough to see if u have ur eyes open, and if not i hope u do get caught. I don't mind people driving fast if there observant enough to react to things that happen and such people should see the cameras. And in 30/40mph u haven't really got a leg to stand on IMO...

/rant

Dec

sort of...yes you shouldnt be speeding, but in my time i've seen the following

mobile unit parked in (yes in) a public roadside footpath separated from road by 10ft verge made of mature pine trees (bournemouth, branksome chine 30mph on a down hill section)

mobile unit parked before 2 gatso units on the otherside of flyover as speed limit is dropped, and then the other side of flyover as speed limit is increased (a338 bournemouth 50/70 break)

mobile unit laser unit shooting across a bend, across a bridge from behind a wall tracking traffic up to 800yds away (a35 christchurch...30 zone, rush hour traffic)

gatso behind tree (a23 north after purley way, as road narrow from 2 to one lane)

gatso behind sign (a3 southbound last junction before motorway, 50 mph)

gatso set to trigger at 30 on a stretch of road set to 50. Set to 30 because of roadworks that finish 1/4 mile before camera, but cones were extended up to camera, no work was ever done anywhere near camera. Camera was sited 50 yds in front of national speed limit sign and just before end of roadworks, which because the gatso was behind the sign was more visible by a hell of a margin (a3 southbound last junction before motorway)

They should be outside schools, where there should be traffic patrols and 20mph areas, they should be in blackspots, they should be dotted around to stop you generally speeding everywhere, but sometimes their tactics do leave a little to be desired, more to catch than to deter. Whats the point of giving someone a speeding fine if they've just done 50 thru the section you want them to keep to 30? Surely its better to deter properly and prosecute those that ignore the obvious.

[windyrich]

This one is free and not that difficult to use and you should already have grasped the basics...............
Try using the big dial on your dashboard and being more observant to the speed limit changes.

[jrepetto]

let me add my professional insight; here in the states the number one "killer" of young adults under the age 0f 20 is traffic accidents related to speed. The enforcement by law enforcement is only part of the plan to reduce those deaths. Making the general public aware that speeding does kill through education; seems to be lost in the translation sometimes; some say that only young people need to slow down, which might be a true statement giving the sobering facts, but all of us need to get the message out and follow the speed limit and set the example.

[Olly.]

Quote: Originally Posted by jrepetto

let me add my professional insight; here in the states the number one "killer" of young adults under the age 0f 20 is traffic accidents related to speed. The enforcement by law enforcement is only part of the plan to reduce those deaths. Making the general public aware that speeding does kill through education; seems to be lost in the translation sometimes; some say that only young people need to slow down, which might be a true statement giving the sobering facts, but all of us need to get the message out and follow the speed limit and set the example.

Very few road deaths in this country are actually attributed to speed, which is why I personally have a problem with the camera's on our roads.

I always stick to residential speed limits without fail, but theres no way that i'm going to pootle along a motorway at 70mph while everyone else bombs past at 90.

IMO we have more of problem with lack of driver knowledge and poor driving than speeding. But of course now speed cameras are around there aren't as many traffic police to do anything about it.

[jrepetto]

Understand completely, on the interstate hwy's here in the states, the average speed is 80, even though the speed limit might be 70 or even 65mph in some spots. Let me also say that most of the traffic deaths are not on the interstate, but rather on the secondary roadways or rual roads. Those roads are not typically designed for higher speeds, and that's the main problem with youner inexperienced drivers. Here in the states the use of camera's has just gotten popular with red light or traffic signal enforcement, won't be long before "they" are watching the major road systems.

[Smurfn]

Quote: Originally Posted by ollymale

I always stick to residential speed limits without fail, but theres no way that i'm going to pootle along a motorway at 70mph while everyone else bombs past at 90.

Ohh, diddums doen't like being overtaken

Sounds like a stereotypical ~20 year old male driver viewpoint, so I am not sure if you are being serious or taking the mickey

[Rakey]

Roadpilot is the one we have in the Cooper, its ok, but in my JCW I have the OriginB2 and its my favourite way of making sure I am within the legal limits

[Spotty Dog]

The safest and most proven way of avoiding a ticket is to drive directly at the speed camera until you here a bang. Guarenteed you'll not only avoid a tcket, but you'll make new friends in the area. Alternatively, drive as fast as you like on the pavement.

[Dec]

Quote: Originally Posted by ollymale

Very few road deaths in this country are actually attributed to speed, which is why I personally have a problem with the camera's on our roads.

I agree, 99% of ALL accidents are caused by driver error. (not the weather, road conditions or anything like that, just driver error) because they think its ok to drive that fast when quite often its not.

I have no problem with people who are skilled enough driving fast, but these people know when to slow down and thats the big difference. i agree some are sneaky but i still think if ur observant and realise that there a junction or residential area coming up u should be slowing down. if u don't then u aren't skilled enough.

The reason they sit on motorway bridges is because people continue to drive at 90 odd mph when there are slower cars joining and people switching lanes etc and this causes accidents. You should have seen the 1mile warning sign and slowed up, theres really no excuse.

If its 1am on a straight motorway then i yes i agree 70mph is slow. but in the day when people are driving on each others bumper some1 doing 90 should b fined etc, its just dangerous...

If you done ur police class 1 driving test then ud know where its ok to speed and where its not and shouldn't get caught out (that n ud have friends in the know ), it all comes down to drivers skill, and if u need a device to tell u where cameras are you have no skill.

Dec

[Spotty Dog]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dec

I agree, 99% of ALL accidents are caused by driver error. (not the weather, road conditions or anything like that, just driver error) because they think its ok to drive that fast when quite often its not.

I have no problem with people who are skilled enough driving fast, but these people know when to slow down and thats the big difference. i agree some are sneaky but i still think if ur observant and realise that there a junction or residential area coming up u should be slowing down. if u don't then u aren't skilled enough.

The reason they sit on motorway bridges is because people continue to drive at 90 odd mph when there are slower cars joining and people switching lanes etc and this causes accidents. You should have seen the 1mile warning sign and slowed up, theres really no excuse.

If its 1am on a straight motorway then i yes i agree 70mph is slow. but in the day when people are driving on each others bumper some1 doing 90 should b fined etc, its just dangerous...

If you done ur police class 1 driving test then ud know where its ok to speed and where its not and shouldn't get caught out (that n ud have friends in the know ), it all comes down to drivers skill, and if u need a device to tell u where cameras are you have no skill.

Dec

I'd have to disagree, some roads are designed badly. I have a road near me with a nice smooth manhole cover which often catches drivers out. There's a fair number of badly signed junctions around and as only 3.5% of money from our tax discs going into road building and improvements it's going to get alot worse.

[Olly.]

Quote: Originally Posted by Smurfn

Ohh, diddums doen't like being overtaken

Sounds like a stereotypical ~20 year old male driver viewpoint, so I am not sure if you are being serious or taking the mickey

Yeah your right I didn't phrase that well It was 3am though

Here's a link from todays paper which shows the kind of problems that the current policiing strategy is posing - http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...934561,00.html

[ScottishcooperS]

Quote: Originally Posted by mckeg4

Morning All,

I need some help in deciding which is the best cost effective speed camera detector to save my licence.

Cheers

HT

I tought this was the question he asked. Alot of reply's but only a few have really answered, the others are busy giving lectures!