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Coopergeezer · Jul 25th, 2002, 06:21 AM

Has anyone ever brought a MINI with the Wave stereo and had it upgraded to the Boost? The reason I ask is that I have the Wave in my Cooper and I am quite disappointed with the sound. I rang my dealers to ask how much it would be to upgrade it. He said that I need to have the speakers upgraded aswell as they are different and it would take them a few hours to fit it all. I was budgeting for about £500 but the dealer reckons it would be nearer £800.

I can't believe that the speakers need to be changed as loads of people have the Wave and upgrade to Sony's and Kenwoods without changing the speakers.

The other option is to get the Sound Module thing, but I'd need to resarch that more. I also want to upgrade the Wave because it looks crap compared the boost. I'm really starting to regret not having the Boost fitted.

KenL · Jul 25th, 2002, 06:34 AM

At that price I would ditch what you have and fit a new separate head unit. You could get a great system for £800.

I've got the boosted single CD which to me sounds excellent, loud and clear - don't think it's worth £800 though.

There have been other threads on here and I seem to remember that the boost was just another head unit not a separate power amplifier.

Coopergeezer · Jul 25th, 2002, 06:54 AM

I might ask and see if they can upgrade just the Head Unit and leave the speakers alone.

A third party HU is an idea although I don't know how I could get it to drive my Mini Cd Changer and they don't seem to fit in properly, they seem to have a gap around the top. I be worried about someone nicking it aswell. The Boost would be unlikely to be nicked as it's useless to anyone other than a Mini owner.

Johnboy · Jul 25th, 2002, 07:42 AM

I was led to believe, that certainly back in September, the only difference between boost and Wave is the head unit - I had this confirmed at the time by MINI customer services.
(Oh, except that with Wave you get a more standard radio connector, and with Boost you get some sort of bizarre connector that then requires a converter to fit a standard radio

)

Search the threads - There's an ICE installer who posts round here....
The wave is a Philips radio, so if you go for a Philips replacement, I would guess that the CD changer would work with it.

I've got 2 grand's worth of ICE in my car, and we're still using the standard speakers - which aren't audiophile quality, but are more than adequate.

GBP800 would buy you a good quality radio, fully installed... In fact, IMHO, I would be surprised if you couldn't do better than the Boost upgrade, AND have a replacement CD-changer thrown-in with the deal!

Sextons car radio may be a good place to start.
Here's an idea - How about asking round in the for sale/ wanted sections for somebody's old Boost radio - There seem to be loads of people who have subsequently upgraded their systems... There must be someone looking to offload an old BOOST radio.

Coopergeezer · Jul 25th, 2002, 08:17 AM

I've just heard from my dealer and he informs me that the price quote he gave me was wrong and in fact they will fit the Boost Tape Head Unit for £465.00. So I guess that is a bit more bearable.

snoopy · Jul 25th, 2002, 08:38 AM

Coopergeezer

May I suggest that you see if anyone that has replaced their boost head unit with an aftermarket head unit and see if their want to sell you their old Boost.

The speakers should be the same for the Wave and the Boost. However the connector at back of the radio may be difference. Boost radios have always had a flat pin connector, but the early wave radio used a round pin connector. So I would check what you wave radio has. (your dealer should be able to tell you off the computer)

Dom · Jul 25th, 2002, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Coopergeezer
I've just heard from my dealer and he informs me that the price quote he gave me was wrong and in fact they will fit the Boost Tape Head Unit for £465.00. So I guess that is a bit more bearable.

That's still a stupidly expensive price. Look to see if someone is selling one second hand. £465 for a tape player really is way too high. I believe Sony headunits can be made to work with the standard CD changer, not sure if anyone's done it yet though...

Dom

Coopergeezer · Jul 25th, 2002, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dom

That's still a stupidly expensive price. Look to see if someone is selling one second hand. £465 for a tape player really is way too high. I believe Sony headunits can be made to work with the standard CD changer, not sure if anyone's done it yet though...

Dom

I know, it's an absolute rip-off. I haven't got money to burn. If a Sony would work the Changer and could be fitted nicely then that would be great. I'll ask around some of the hi-fi places, they may have done one before. I'll put a message in the Wanted section aswell.

snoopy · Jul 25th, 2002, 09:54 AM

CD Changer

The factory one will only work with BMW head units, and I have not seen a converter box that will do this. Most converter boxes go the other way ie a BMW headunit controling a Sony cd changer.

But hay ask, and see if they have a converter box that does what you want. If they can make it go one way the should be able to make it go the other way.

Coopergeezer · Jul 27th, 2002, 08:48 AM

Thanks for all the help. I visited my dealer today and had a listen to the Boost. It sounds much better than my Wave so I have got them to order me one (£470) and they will fit it in a couple of weeks time.

pob · Jul 27th, 2002, 03:29 PM

If you listen to MW don't bother! As I've just posted in faults section, every Boost radio we checked at the dealers on Friday had a really bad speaker vibration on MW. After they damaged my roof lining fitting the wrong sun visor, I'm after a speaker upgrade out of them to try and sort it.

Coopergeezer · Jul 28th, 2002, 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pob
If you listen to MW don't bother! As I've just posted in faults section, every Boost radio we checked at the dealers on Friday had a really bad speaker vibration on MW. After they damaged my roof lining fitting the wrong sun visor, I'm after a speaker upgrade out of them to try and sort it.

I don't think I've ever listened to the Radio in my MINI. I just play Cd's

Coopergeezer · Aug 12th, 2002, 06:15 PM

This is proving to be an absolute nightmare at the moment. I booked the car in on Friday and they rang me at midday to say that they were having problems and that the adapter they had got didn't have the right connections and therefore it couldn't be done that day.

So anyway I picked up the car and they said they'd ring me about it on Monday (Today). They rang me up and said that there was a Retro kit that would convert the Wave connections to Boost, but unfortunately it hasn't been released yet. They said not to worry and that they would try to get more information. They rang back later and said that they'd e-mailed BMW and they need to order 6 different parts and that they will be in Wednesday. So hopefully this might solve the problem.

Coopergeezer · Aug 16th, 2002, 06:21 PM

Finally I have had the Boost installed and boy what a difference

My advice to anyone out there - Do not even contemplate getting the Wave stereo unless you are going to buy an Aftermarket Head Unit

snoopy · Aug 16th, 2002, 07:20 PM

Good to see you are happy with the change to the boost.

Do you know what parts they finally used to install your New boost headunit.

Coopergeezer · Aug 17th, 2002, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by snoopy

Do you know what parts they finally used to install your New boost headunit.

Not sure what the adapter they used actually looked like as I never saw it. I just know that it was made up of 6 part numbers and that it would have cost £35. Luckily I didn't have to pay for the cable as I had been inconvenienced. They also knocked 20% off the price of the Head Unit so I'm more than happy.

Jul 25th, 2002, 06:21 AM	#1
Coopergeezer MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Abingdon, Oxon Local Time: 05:10 AM Posts: 245 Offline	Upgrading Wave to Boost Has anyone ever brought a MINI with the Wave stereo and had it upgraded to the Boost? The reason I ask is that I have the Wave in my Cooper and I am quite disappointed with the sound. I rang my dealers to ask how much it would be to upgrade it. He said that I need to have the speakers upgraded aswell as they are different and it would take them a few hours to fit it all. I was budgeting for about £500 but the dealer reckons it would be nearer £800. I can't believe that the speakers need to be changed as loads of people have the Wave and upgrade to Sony's and Kenwoods without changing the speakers. The other option is to get the Sound Module thing, but I'd need to resarch that more. I also want to upgrade the Wave because it looks crap compared the boost. I'm really starting to regret not having the Boost fitted. Chilli Red with White Roof, Chilli Pack, ASC+T, SSP, Climate Control,17" S-Spoke Alloys, Harmon Kardon, CD-Changer, Multi function steering wheel, White Stripes and BMW Aero Kit.

Jul 25th, 2002, 06:54 AM	#3 (permalink)
Coopergeezer MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Abingdon, Oxon Local Time: 05:10 AM Posts: 245 Offline	I might ask and see if they can upgrade just the Head Unit and leave the speakers alone. A third party HU is an idea although I don't know how I could get it to drive my Mini Cd Changer and they don't seem to fit in properly, they seem to have a gap around the top. I be worried about someone nicking it aswell. The Boost would be unlikely to be nicked as it's useless to anyone other than a Mini owner. Chilli Red with White Roof, Chilli Pack, ASC+T, SSP, Climate Control,17" S-Spoke Alloys, Harmon Kardon, CD-Changer, Multi function steering wheel, White Stripes and BMW Aero Kit.

Jul 25th, 2002, 08:17 AM	#5 (permalink)
Coopergeezer MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Abingdon, Oxon Local Time: 05:10 AM Posts: 245 Offline	I've just heard from my dealer and he informs me that the price quote he gave me was wrong and in fact they will fit the Boost Tape Head Unit for £465.00. So I guess that is a bit more bearable. Chilli Red with White Roof, Chilli Pack, ASC+T, SSP, Climate Control,17" S-Spoke Alloys, Harmon Kardon, CD-Changer, Multi function steering wheel, White Stripes and BMW Aero Kit.

Jul 25th, 2002, 08:58 AM	#8 (permalink)
Coopergeezer MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Abingdon, Oxon Local Time: 05:10 AM Posts: 245 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Dom That's still a stupidly expensive price. Look to see if someone is selling one second hand. £465 for a tape player really is way too high. I believe Sony headunits can be made to work with the standard CD changer, not sure if anyone's done it yet though... Dom I know, it's an absolute rip-off. I haven't got money to burn. If a Sony would work the Changer and could be fitted nicely then that would be great. I'll ask around some of the hi-fi places, they may have done one before. I'll put a message in the Wanted section aswell. Chilli Red with White Roof, Chilli Pack, ASC+T, SSP, Climate Control,17" S-Spoke Alloys, Harmon Kardon, CD-Changer, Multi function steering wheel, White Stripes and BMW Aero Kit.

Jul 27th, 2002, 08:48 AM	#10 (permalink)
Coopergeezer MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Abingdon, Oxon Local Time: 05:10 AM Posts: 245 Offline	Thanks Thanks for all the help. I visited my dealer today and had a listen to the Boost. It sounds much better than my Wave so I have got them to order me one (£470) and they will fit it in a couple of weeks time. Chilli Red with White Roof, Chilli Pack, ASC+T, SSP, Climate Control,17" S-Spoke Alloys, Harmon Kardon, CD-Changer, Multi function steering wheel, White Stripes and BMW Aero Kit.

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Jul 25th, 2002, 06:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
KenL MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2002 Location: Edinburgh Local Time: 06:10 AM Posts: 5,216 Offline	At that price I would ditch what you have and fit a new separate head unit. You could get a great system for £800. I've got the boosted single CD which to me sounds excellent, loud and clear - don't think it's worth £800 though. There have been other threads on here and I seem to remember that the boost was just another head unit not a separate power amplifier.

Jul 25th, 2002, 07:42 AM	#4 (permalink)
Johnboy MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: uk Local Time: 06:10 AM Posts: 345 Offline	I was led to believe, that certainly back in September, the only difference between boost and Wave is the head unit - I had this confirmed at the time by MINI customer services. (Oh, except that with Wave you get a more standard radio connector, and with Boost you get some sort of bizarre connector that then requires a converter to fit a standard radio ) Search the threads - There's an ICE installer who posts round here.... The wave is a Philips radio, so if you go for a Philips replacement, I would guess that the CD changer would work with it. I've got 2 grand's worth of ICE in my car, and we're still using the standard speakers - which aren't audiophile quality, but are more than adequate. GBP800 would buy you a good quality radio, fully installed... In fact, IMHO, I would be surprised if you couldn't do better than the Boost upgrade, AND have a replacement CD-changer thrown-in with the deal! Sextons car radio may be a good place to start. Here's an idea - How about asking round in the for sale/ wanted sections for somebody's old Boost radio - There seem to be loads of people who have subsequently upgraded their systems... There must be someone looking to offload an old BOOST radio.

Jul 25th, 2002, 08:38 AM	#6 (permalink)
snoopy MINI2 Master Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: au Local Time: 03:10 PM Posts: 1,166 Offline	Coopergeezer May I suggest that you see if anyone that has replaced their boost head unit with an aftermarket head unit and see if their want to sell you their old Boost. The speakers should be the same for the Wave and the Boost. However the connector at back of the radio may be difference. Boost radios have always had a flat pin connector, but the early wave radio used a round pin connector. So I would check what you wave radio has. (your dealer should be able to tell you off the computer)

Jul 25th, 2002, 08:39 AM	#7 (permalink)
Dom Test thread infiltrator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Swindon Local Time: 06:10 AM Posts: 8,543 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Coopergeezer I've just heard from my dealer and he informs me that the price quote he gave me was wrong and in fact they will fit the Boost Tape Head Unit for £465.00. So I guess that is a bit more bearable. That's still a stupidly expensive price. Look to see if someone is selling one second hand. £465 for a tape player really is way too high. I believe Sony headunits can be made to work with the standard CD changer, not sure if anyone's done it yet though... Dom

Jul 25th, 2002, 09:54 AM	#9 (permalink)
snoopy MINI2 Master Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: au Local Time: 03:10 PM Posts: 1,166 Offline	CD Changer The factory one will only work with BMW head units, and I have not seen a converter box that will do this. Most converter boxes go the other way ie a BMW headunit controling a Sony cd changer. But hay ask, and see if they have a converter box that does what you want. If they can make it go one way the should be able to make it go the other way.

Jul 27th, 2002, 03:29 PM	#11 (permalink)
pob MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2001 Local Time: 06:10 AM Posts: 236 Offline	If you listen to MW don't bother! As I've just posted in faults section, every Boost radio we checked at the dealers on Friday had a really bad speaker vibration on MW. After they damaged my roof lining fitting the wrong sun visor, I'm after a speaker upgrade out of them to try and sort it.

Jul 28th, 2002, 05:11 AM	#12 (permalink)
Coopergeezer MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Abingdon, Oxon Local Time: 05:10 AM Posts: 245 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by pob If you listen to MW don't bother! As I've just posted in faults section, every Boost radio we checked at the dealers on Friday had a really bad speaker vibration on MW. After they damaged my roof lining fitting the wrong sun visor, I'm after a speaker upgrade out of them to try and sort it. I don't think I've ever listened to the Radio in my MINI. I just play Cd's Chilli Red with White Roof, Chilli Pack, ASC+T, SSP, Climate Control,17" S-Spoke Alloys, Harmon Kardon, CD-Changer, Multi function steering wheel, White Stripes and BMW Aero Kit.

Aug 12th, 2002, 06:15 PM	#13 (permalink)
Coopergeezer MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Abingdon, Oxon Local Time: 05:10 AM Posts: 245 Offline	This is proving to be an absolute nightmare at the moment. I booked the car in on Friday and they rang me at midday to say that they were having problems and that the adapter they had got didn't have the right connections and therefore it couldn't be done that day. So anyway I picked up the car and they said they'd ring me about it on Monday (Today). They rang me up and said that there was a Retro kit that would convert the Wave connections to Boost, but unfortunately it hasn't been released yet. They said not to worry and that they would try to get more information. They rang back later and said that they'd e-mailed BMW and they need to order 6 different parts and that they will be in Wednesday. So hopefully this might solve the problem. Chilli Red with White Roof, Chilli Pack, ASC+T, SSP, Climate Control,17" S-Spoke Alloys, Harmon Kardon, CD-Changer, Multi function steering wheel, White Stripes and BMW Aero Kit. Last edited by Coopergeezer : Aug 13th, 2002 at 07:52 AM.

Aug 16th, 2002, 06:21 PM	#14 (permalink)
Coopergeezer MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Abingdon, Oxon Local Time: 05:10 AM Posts: 245 Offline	Finally I have had the Boost installed and boy what a difference My advice to anyone out there - Do not even contemplate getting the Wave stereo unless you are going to buy an Aftermarket Head Unit Chilli Red with White Roof, Chilli Pack, ASC+T, SSP, Climate Control,17" S-Spoke Alloys, Harmon Kardon, CD-Changer, Multi function steering wheel, White Stripes and BMW Aero Kit.

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Aug 16th, 2002, 07:20 PM	#15 (permalink)
snoopy MINI2 Master Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: au Local Time: 03:10 PM Posts: 1,166 Offline	Good to see you are happy with the change to the boost. Do you know what parts they finally used to install your New boost headunit.

Aug 17th, 2002, 04:31 AM	#16 (permalink)
Coopergeezer MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Abingdon, Oxon Local Time: 05:10 AM Posts: 245 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by snoopy Do you know what parts they finally used to install your New boost headunit. Not sure what the adapter they used actually looked like as I never saw it. I just know that it was made up of 6 part numbers and that it would have cost £35. Luckily I didn't have to pay for the cable as I had been inconvenienced. They also knocked 20% off the price of the Head Unit so I'm more than happy. Chilli Red with White Roof, Chilli Pack, ASC+T, SSP, Climate Control,17" S-Spoke Alloys, Harmon Kardon, CD-Changer, Multi function steering wheel, White Stripes and BMW Aero Kit.

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