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viperfire · Jul 16th, 2006, 05:36 PM

I get my brand new Mini Cooper on friday

and have numerous questions to ask regarding audio.

I currently own (from my old car):

Focal Polyglass V2 6.5 components
Infinity Kappa 6*9s
Powered by JL Audio e4300 4 channel amp
JL Audio 10" W3V2 sub
Powered by Alpine V12 MRD-M300 Amp
All controlled by Alpine CDA 7893R Headunit

I am looking to maintain as much of the boot space as possible.

Well basically my questions are:

1. Will the 6.5 Focals fit in the doorwells easily or will the doors have to be modified in any way. If they are would i be better buying some new Focal K2s or some Rainbow or Bostons (Open to other suggestions)
2. Will the headunit easily fit where the stock unit is?
3. I know there are 6*9s positions in the back. Should i keep my 6*9s and W3V2 or ditch both and go for two 8" subs in the 6*9s position? If am to do this, will they fit there easily or require mods? Any sub suggestions?
4. I will possibly need new amps or can i get away with the amps i've got?

I have about £1000 GBP to spend.

Suggestions and help would be appreciated

Thanks

SteveM3 · Jul 16th, 2006, 06:38 PM

The standard Mini front speaker comes in it's own adaptor, they don't separate, so
5.25" components or 6.5" components need an adaptor i.e. are equally easy to fit.
You can buy these from sponsor newministuff or make them yourself out of wood.
So you may as well keep what you have got, I used sealant to get my Polyglass V2
tweeters to stay in place. You can screw the crossover to the door, look at the diy
guide at newministuff http://www.newministuff.com/new/inde...ion=13&diyid=1
The 6x9's will drop in the rear positions with a little help, I had to enlarge the hole
slightly. If you can seal the cavity behind them with expandable foam. To fit 8" subs
in their place involves metal cutting and a small box, I think the only person to have
done this got the pros to do it. Expensive I imagine. The amps you have are probably
too big to fit in the Mini without giving up boot space.

viperfire · Jul 16th, 2006, 09:46 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by SteveM3

The standard Mini front speaker comes in it's own adaptor, they don't separate, so
5.25" components or 6.5" components need an adaptor i.e. are equally easy to fit.
You can buy these from sponsor newministuff or make them yourself out of wood.
So you may as well keep what you have got, I used sealant to get my Polyglass V2
tweeters to stay in place. You can screw the crossover to the door, look at the diy
guide at newministuff
The 6x9's will drop in the rear positions with a little help, I had to enlarge the hole
slightly. If you can seal the cavity behind them with expandable foam. To fit 8" subs
in their place involves metal cutting and a small box, I think the only person to have
done this got the pros to do it. Expensive I imagine. The amps you have are probably
too big to fit in the Mini without giving up boot space.

Thanks for the info. Any idea on amps or would my current amps fit under the floor in the boot?

viperfire · Jul 16th, 2006, 10:11 PM

Any other opinions?

Remember i have £1000 burning a hole in my pocket lol

UKC4 · Jul 16th, 2006, 10:32 PM

Well if you have 1K in ya pocket I have an Idea!

Why dont you give me the money and I will sing for you!!! Now then, who else can say they have a live singer in the car!!

On a more seriouse not try www.newministuff.co.uk this is mikeys website and has done loads of full Ice installs!! I have heard and in some cases seen (TV's in headrests and all) his work, and you cant fault it!! I have had and Icelink installed for my ipod and no problems here!!

viperfire · Jul 17th, 2006, 10:05 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by UKC4

Well if you have 1K in ya pocket I have an Idea!

Why dont you give me the money and I will sing for you!!! Now then, who else can say they have a live singer in the car!!

On a more seriouse not try this is mikeys website and has done loads of full Ice installs!! I have heard and in some cases seen (TV's in headrests and all) his work, and you cant fault it!! I have had and Icelink installed for my ipod and no problems here!!

I'd love to get some subs in the 6*9 positions.

Anyone done any similar intalls or know anyone that would do it?

What kind of cost am i looking at for that?

UKC4 · Jul 17th, 2006, 10:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by viperfire

I'd love to get some subs in the 6*9 positions.

Anyone done any similar intalls or know anyone that would do it?

What kind of cost am i looking at for that?

Use the link in my last post to contact mikey.... he will give you a price if you tell him what you want or what you want to acheive.

viperfire · Jul 17th, 2006, 10:37 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by UKC4

Use the link in my last post to contact mikey.... he will give you a price if you tell him what you want or what you want to acheive.

Ok mate

Cheers

Benmk · Jul 18th, 2006, 09:27 AM

Sell the items on ebay and buy DPSM! Then you have a great system with no fitting issues and maximum boot space with an amazing system. If not Mikey does know his stuff! The are loads of adapters and things to fit headunit, speakers, subs etc etc.

viperfire · Jul 18th, 2006, 09:39 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Benmk

Sell the items on ebay and buy DPSM! Then you have a great system with no fitting issues and maximum boot space with an amazing system. If not Mikey does know his stuff! The are loads of adapters and things to fit headunit, speakers, subs etc etc.

Ok being a newb

. What on eartH is DPSM???
If its something like the Harman/Kardon i wouldn't be interested. Had a listen to that in my dealers for about an hour. Its an ok system but not what i'm used to in terms of quality or sound reproduction.

MINIMAT · Jul 18th, 2006, 09:44 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by viperfire

Ok being a newb

. What on eartH is DPSM???
If its something like the Harman/Kardon i wouldn't be interested. Had a listen to that in my dealers for about an hour. Its an ok system but not what i'm used to in terms of quality or sound reproduction.

Digital POWER SoundModule

http://motoringfile.com/2004/10/28/m...ion_from_mini/

Click on the link and download the pdf file.

Benmk · Jul 18th, 2006, 10:05 AM

The DPSM is hugely better than the HK in terms of quality and volume and power etc. Check out some of my DPSM reviews and it should hopefully give you a good idea.

Depending on where you are based if your not too far from me (North London) your welcome to come and have a listen.

PMB · Jul 18th, 2006, 02:41 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Benmk

The DPSM is hugely better than the HK in terms of quality and volume and power etc. Check out some of my DPSM reviews and it should hopefully give you a good idea.

Depending on where you are based if your not too far from me (North London) your welcome to come and have a listen.

It would have to be because HK can easily be bettered by simply fitting Infinity 693.7s in the back and .7 comps in the front.

I don't think the DSPM will come close to what viperfire is looking for.

UKC4 · Jul 18th, 2006, 05:23 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by viperfire

Ok being a newb

. What on eartH is DPSM???
If its something like the Harman/Kardon i wouldn't be interested. Had a listen to that in my dealers for about an hour. Its an ok system but not what i'm used to in terms of quality or sound reproduction.

Cheeky get!!

H/K is very good at what its designed to do and in it's class is a top system. But I know what you might mean, it needs to be louder.... this is one thing that I find annoying. That DPSM is the Mini Sound Modual. It is supposed to be very good. I would try and have a listen to it if I was you... never heard it myself.

SteveM3 · Jul 18th, 2006, 09:48 PM

Here is the standard sub solution. This is my JL 10W6 in a box, doesn't take up much
room and the JL is designed to work well in a small box. Can be easily removed for more
space when required. Great sound.

Now the next link is the nicest solution to a good sub sound versus space compromise
that I have ever seen. I haven't heard it but it sure does looks promising.
http://www.gbmini.net/mtblog/archive...erkins_t.shtml

viperfire · Jul 18th, 2006, 10:05 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by SteveM3

Here is the standard sub solution. This is my JL 10W6 in a box, doesn't take up much
room and the JL is designed to work well in a small box. Can be easily removed for more
space when required. Great sound.

Now the next link is the nicest solution to a good sub sound versus space compromise
that I have ever seen. I haven't heard it but it sure does looks promising.
l

Your subs looks good steve. Anyone know how much GBMINIS intall cost? Its exactly what im looking for. Looks fantastic.

MINIMAT · Jul 23rd, 2006, 11:08 AM

Mikeythemini does similar. Might be useful if you live in the North.

http://www.newministuff.com/new/shop...ductshow&id=58

viperfire · Jul 29th, 2006, 07:17 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MINIMAT

Mikeythemini does similar. Might be useful if you live in the North.

http://www.newministuff.com/new/shop...ductshow&id=58

Yea but he doesn't reply to his emails

DaFlake · Jul 30th, 2006, 08:21 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by viperfire

Yea but he doesn't reply to his emails

He is probably busy at the moment. Give him a chance and I'm certain he can help you.

mikeythemini · Jul 30th, 2006, 05:48 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by viperfire

Yea but he doesn't reply to his emails

?? I sent you one - from memory about 8" in the rears etc

Jul 16th, 2006, 05:36 PM	#1
viperfire MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Local Time: 12:43 AM Posts: 32 Offline	Mini Cooper Audio Help I get my brand new Mini Cooper on friday and have numerous questions to ask regarding audio. I currently own (from my old car): Focal Polyglass V2 6.5 components Infinity Kappa 69s Powered by JL Audio e4300 4 channel amp JL Audio 10" W3V2 sub Powered by Alpine V12 MRD-M300 Amp All controlled by Alpine CDA 7893R Headunit I am looking to maintain as much of the boot space as possible. Well basically my questions are: 1. Will the 6.5 Focals fit in the doorwells easily or will the doors have to be modified in any way. If they are would i be better buying some new Focal K2s or some Rainbow or Bostons (Open to other suggestions) 2. Will the headunit easily fit where the stock unit is? 3. I know there are 69s positions in the back. Should i keep my 69s and W3V2 or ditch both and go for two 8" subs in the 69s position? If am to do this, will they fit there easily or require mods? Any sub suggestions? 4. I will possibly need new amps or can i get away with the amps i've got? I have about £1000 GBP to spend. Suggestions and help would be appreciated Thanks

Jul 16th, 2006, 06:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
SteveM3 MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Malmesbury, Wilts Local Time: 12:43 AM Posts: 1,791 Offline	The standard Mini front speaker comes in it's own adaptor, they don't separate, so 5.25" components or 6.5" components need an adaptor i.e. are equally easy to fit. You can buy these from sponsor newministuff or make them yourself out of wood. So you may as well keep what you have got, I used sealant to get my Polyglass V2 tweeters to stay in place. You can screw the crossover to the door, look at the diy guide at newministuff http://www.newministuff.com/new/inde...ion=13&diyid=1 The 6x9's will drop in the rear positions with a little help, I had to enlarge the hole slightly. If you can seal the cavity behind them with expandable foam. To fit 8" subs in their place involves metal cutting and a small box, I think the only person to have done this got the pros to do it. Expensive I imagine. The amps you have are probably too big to fit in the Mini without giving up boot space. Some people are like a Slinky ........ not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the stairs

Jul 18th, 2006, 09:39 AM	#10 (permalink)
viperfire MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Local Time: 12:43 AM Posts: 32 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Benmk Sell the items on ebay and buy DPSM! Then you have a great system with no fitting issues and maximum boot space with an amazing system. If not Mikey does know his stuff! The are loads of adapters and things to fit headunit, speakers, subs etc etc. Ok being a newb. What on eartH is DPSM??? If its something like the Harman/Kardon i wouldn't be interested. Had a listen to that in my dealers for about an hour. Its an ok system but not what i'm used to in terms of quality or sound reproduction.

Jul 18th, 2006, 09:44 AM	#11 (permalink)
MINIMAT MINIMAT Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Birmingham Local Time: 12:43 AM Posts: 823 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by viperfire Ok being a newb. What on eartH is DPSM??? If its something like the Harman/Kardon i wouldn't be interested. Had a listen to that in my dealers for about an hour. Its an ok system but not what i'm used to in terms of quality or sound reproduction. Digital POWER SoundModule http://motoringfile.com/2004/10/28/m...ion_from_mini/ Click on the link and download the pdf file.

Jul 18th, 2006, 05:23 PM	#14 (permalink)
UKC4 MINI2 Sex God & etc...... My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bradford Local Time: 12:43 AM Posts: 1,334 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by viperfire Ok being a newb. What on eartH is DPSM??? If its something like the Harman/Kardon i wouldn't be interested. Had a listen to that in my dealers for about an hour. Its an ok system but not what i'm used to in terms of quality or sound reproduction. Cheeky get!! H/K is very good at what its designed to do and in it's class is a top system. But I know what you might mean, it needs to be louder.... this is one thing that I find annoying. That DPSM is the Mini Sound Modual. It is supposed to be very good. I would try and have a listen to it if I was you... never heard it myself.

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Jul 16th, 2006, 09:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
viperfire MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Local Time: 12:43 AM Posts: 32 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by SteveM3 The standard Mini front speaker comes in it's own adaptor, they don't separate, so 5.25" components or 6.5" components need an adaptor i.e. are equally easy to fit. You can buy these from sponsor newministuff or make them yourself out of wood. So you may as well keep what you have got, I used sealant to get my Polyglass V2 tweeters to stay in place. You can screw the crossover to the door, look at the diy guide at newministuff The 6x9's will drop in the rear positions with a little help, I had to enlarge the hole slightly. If you can seal the cavity behind them with expandable foam. To fit 8" subs in their place involves metal cutting and a small box, I think the only person to have done this got the pros to do it. Expensive I imagine. The amps you have are probably too big to fit in the Mini without giving up boot space. Thanks for the info. Any idea on amps or would my current amps fit under the floor in the boot?

Jul 16th, 2006, 10:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
viperfire MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Local Time: 12:43 AM Posts: 32 Offline	Any other opinions? Remember i have £1000 burning a hole in my pocket lol

Jul 16th, 2006, 10:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
UKC4 MINI2 Sex God & etc...... My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bradford Local Time: 12:43 AM Posts: 1,334 Offline	Well if you have 1K in ya pocket I have an Idea! Why dont you give me the money and I will sing for you!!! Now then, who else can say they have a live singer in the car!! On a more seriouse not try www.newministuff.co.uk this is mikeys website and has done loads of full Ice installs!! I have heard and in some cases seen (TV's in headrests and all) his work, and you cant fault it!! I have had and Icelink installed for my ipod and no problems here!!

Jul 17th, 2006, 10:05 PM	#6 (permalink)
viperfire MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Local Time: 12:43 AM Posts: 32 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by UKC4 Well if you have 1K in ya pocket I have an Idea! Why dont you give me the money and I will sing for you!!! Now then, who else can say they have a live singer in the car!! On a more seriouse not try this is mikeys website and has done loads of full Ice installs!! I have heard and in some cases seen (TV's in headrests and all) his work, and you cant fault it!! I have had and Icelink installed for my ipod and no problems here!! I'd love to get some subs in the 6*9 positions. Anyone done any similar intalls or know anyone that would do it? What kind of cost am i looking at for that?

Jul 17th, 2006, 10:28 PM	#7 (permalink)
UKC4 MINI2 Sex God & etc...... My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bradford Local Time: 12:43 AM Posts: 1,334 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by viperfire I'd love to get some subs in the 6*9 positions. Anyone done any similar intalls or know anyone that would do it? What kind of cost am i looking at for that? Use the link in my last post to contact mikey.... he will give you a price if you tell him what you want or what you want to acheive.

Jul 17th, 2006, 10:37 PM	#8 (permalink)
viperfire MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Local Time: 12:43 AM Posts: 32 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by UKC4 Use the link in my last post to contact mikey.... he will give you a price if you tell him what you want or what you want to acheive. Ok mate Cheers

Jul 18th, 2006, 09:27 AM	#9 (permalink)
Benmk MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: London Local Time: 12:43 AM Posts: 214 Offline	Sell the items on ebay and buy DPSM! Then you have a great system with no fitting issues and maximum boot space with an amazing system. If not Mikey does know his stuff! The are loads of adapters and things to fit headunit, speakers, subs etc etc.

Jul 18th, 2006, 10:05 AM	#12 (permalink)
Benmk MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: London Local Time: 12:43 AM Posts: 214 Offline	The DPSM is hugely better than the HK in terms of quality and volume and power etc. Check out some of my DPSM reviews and it should hopefully give you a good idea. Depending on where you are based if your not too far from me (North London) your welcome to come and have a listen.

Jul 18th, 2006, 02:41 PM	#13 (permalink)
PMB MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2006 Local Time: 12:43 AM Posts: 112 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Benmk The DPSM is hugely better than the HK in terms of quality and volume and power etc. Check out some of my DPSM reviews and it should hopefully give you a good idea. Depending on where you are based if your not too far from me (North London) your welcome to come and have a listen. It would have to be because HK can easily be bettered by simply fitting Infinity 693.7s in the back and .7 comps in the front. I don't think the DSPM will come close to what viperfire is looking for.

Jul 18th, 2006, 09:48 PM	#15 (permalink)
SteveM3 MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Malmesbury, Wilts Local Time: 12:43 AM Posts: 1,791 Offline	Here is the standard sub solution. This is my JL 10W6 in a box, doesn't take up much room and the JL is designed to work well in a small box. Can be easily removed for more space when required. Great sound. Now the next link is the nicest solution to a good sub sound versus space compromise that I have ever seen. I haven't heard it but it sure does looks promising. http://www.gbmini.net/mtblog/archive...erkins_t.shtml Some people are like a Slinky ........ not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the stairs

Jul 18th, 2006, 10:05 PM	#16 (permalink)
viperfire MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Local Time: 12:43 AM Posts: 32 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by SteveM3 Here is the standard sub solution. This is my JL 10W6 in a box, doesn't take up much room and the JL is designed to work well in a small box. Can be easily removed for more space when required. Great sound. Now the next link is the nicest solution to a good sub sound versus space compromise that I have ever seen. I haven't heard it but it sure does looks promising. l Your subs looks good steve. Anyone know how much GBMINIS intall cost? Its exactly what im looking for. Looks fantastic.

Jul 23rd, 2006, 11:08 AM	#17 (permalink)
MINIMAT MINIMAT Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Birmingham Local Time: 12:43 AM Posts: 823 Offline	Mikeythemini does similar. Might be useful if you live in the North. http://www.newministuff.com/new/shop...ductshow&id=58

Jul 29th, 2006, 07:17 PM	#18 (permalink)
viperfire MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Local Time: 12:43 AM Posts: 32 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MINIMAT Mikeythemini does similar. Might be useful if you live in the North. http://www.newministuff.com/new/shop...ductshow&id=58 Yea but he doesn't reply to his emails

Jul 30th, 2006, 08:21 AM	#19 (permalink)
DaFlake I miss my MINI Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hanging on The Cape! Local Time: 07:43 PM Posts: 10,630 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by viperfire Yea but he doesn't reply to his emails He is probably busy at the moment. Give him a chance and I'm certain he can help you. Global Moderator

Jul 30th, 2006, 05:48 PM	#20 (permalink)
mikeythemini I can't get no sleep My Classifieds Join Date: May 2002 Location: Capital of Culture Local Time: 12:43 AM Posts: 9,078 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by viperfire Yea but he doesn't reply to his emails ?? I sent you one - from memory about 8" in the rears etc Lakes Tour 2008 coming soon Are you ready for Lakes 2008 - details soon

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