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Volte · Feb 18th, 2007, 01:23 AM

Hi,

Has anyone here fitted the Mini Jambuster themselves?

Or has anyone got a picture showing it installed and /or where the button is located on the dashboard?

Cheers.

nephilin · Feb 18th, 2007, 01:43 AM

Sorry for being so ignorant, but what's a jambuster?

Volte · Feb 18th, 2007, 01:49 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by nephilin (original)

Sorry for being so ignorant, but what's a jambuster?

It appears to be an BMW/MINI add on that gives you trafficmaster voice warnings of traffic jams through the car speakers.

It picks up the signals from the trafficmaster network and include a free lifetime subscription. I think they were launched in 2003.

Was thinking of fitting one if I can get one cheap enough.

Volte · Feb 18th, 2007, 06:36 PM

Anyone?

Volte · Feb 19th, 2007, 12:02 PM

I guess that's a no then!

Well I'm gonna take the plunge, for £9.99 delivered it's worth the risk!

I'll let you know how I get on.

DirkDiggle · Mar 16th, 2007, 10:07 PM

Hello, I have got one of those Traffic master thingy majigs. Not an idea on how to fit it but my handy friend at Williams Bolton thinks he does so will let you know how i get on.

chris.lamb · Mar 17th, 2007, 08:32 AM

The button was fitted into the Plastic moulding fitted around the driver side outer face level vent (round one).
I have an MG version in my MCS and the alerts have saved by bacon on more than one occasion.

Phoenix · Mar 18th, 2007, 09:48 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by DirkDiggle (original)

Hello, I have got one of those Traffic master thingy majigs. Not an idea on how to fit it but my handy friend at Williams Bolton thinks he does so will let you know how i get on.

did your 'handy friend' have any joy with fitting this?

DirkDiggle · Mar 18th, 2007, 10:25 AM

Not spoken to them yet, but will try and get hold of the official install procedures. There is some guy on here that is the bees knees, and he posts various documents to help us DIYers out. I got the manual for the retro fit computer of him!

jiffr · Mar 19th, 2007, 01:17 PM

I had one on my Citroen c5 - not impressed. I does give traffic information but doesnt give alternative routes etc. if this is really what you want pay more and get Smartnav.

Volte · Mar 19th, 2007, 05:14 PM

WOW!

Where you lot all been hiding for the last month!

I'd almost given up on this one, I've been struggling to get any info, and I'm not even sure if the thing was ever called MINI Jambuster. Maybe a thread titled MINI Trafficmaster would have got more attention.....

Anyway, looking at the bits I received off ebay, I'm not sure I've got everything I need either.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks.

Phoenix · Mar 20th, 2007, 07:31 AM

It Proper name is 'Mini Messenger.

Since I pm you I found a bit more about it....................

Quote:

BMW Messenger. Real-time information to keep you moving.
More and more journeys are now affected by congestion, and as the latest projections show, the problem is only going to get worse in the future. However, with BMW Messenger, using real-time information from the Trafficmaster network, drivers get early warning of delays and jams ahead and can re-route to avoid them - thus saving travelling time and making more productive use of their day.

For fleet customers of BMW, BMW Messenger can make a real difference to the productivity (and morale!) of company car users. The retail price of BMW Messenger is £360 inclusive of VAT (but excluding fitting which takes an hour). The price covers not only the BMW Messenger hardware but also a lifetime subscription to the service provided via Trafficmaster. For models from the MINI range, the MINI Jambuster is available, based on the same Trafficmaster Messenger technology.

What is BMW Messenger?
BMW Messenger gives the driver real-time traffic flow information, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, based on the location and direction of their vehicle. The Trafficmaster network of sensors, transmitters and cameras are positioned throughout the UK on all major motorways and trunk roads (excluding Northern Ireland). When traffic speed drops below 30mph the system automatically transmits a report via the National Control Centre. Relating this information to the position of the individual vehicle, BMW Messenger then informs drivers approaching the hold-up of its location and expected delay.

In 'audible' mode BMW Messenger over-rides radio, cassette or CD to inform the driver of his or her location, followed by details of the traffic problem, the approximate length of any tailback and the likely delay, highlighting the position of the hold-up by reference to junction numbers. The driver then has the opportunity to detour in order to avoid the hold-up.

BMW Messenger can be set to 'silent' mode, warning of delays via the unit's green or red LED warning light. A 'motorway only' mode is also selectable which suppresses information about adjacent trunk road delays.

Fitting BMW Messenger
Installation of BMW Messenger can be carried out at any BMW Dealer (or MINI Dealers for MINI Jambuster) and is a swift and simple procedure. The retail price for fleet customers is £360 plus fitting which takes an hour; this cost includes a lifetime subscription to the Messenger service.

Wonder if Mike (mickithemini) has any info?

chris.lamb · Apr 1st, 2007, 10:00 AM

Volte,

Looks like we're missing an adaptor harness of some type.
Should connect the "black box" to the buttons and the car (power & radio interface).

I have also searched high & low and can't find any installation info on the web.

Anyone?

Phoenix · Apr 1st, 2007, 10:36 AM

Think you maybe correct.................

This is what comes in the Set?

Haven't had the Radio out yet to see if there is a connection there.

I too have looked around the net, and also drawn a blank.....

chris.lamb · Apr 2nd, 2007, 12:05 PM

Have already took my black box apart to try an reverse engineer the connections.
Will post up what I find.........
Meanwhile, any friendly BMW service type guys on here can help?

Phoenix · Apr 3rd, 2007, 06:16 AM

Not sure if this is the lead thats needed?

eBay.co.uk: BMW 3 5 Series & Mini ISO wiring harness lead PC2-75-4 (item 330105426611 end time 12-Apr-07 11:34:33 BST)

chris.lamb · Apr 3rd, 2007, 09:52 AM

Phoenix,

not the right one I'm afraid. That one converts old style BMW round pin to Iso connectors.
The lead we need will have 1 multway rectangular connetor on one end (to black box) and then possible 3 connectors on the other end, (radio, button, light), but I am not sure.

Thanks for looking!

chris.lamb · Apr 4th, 2007, 09:56 AM

This is more like it, with a male & female radio connector plus the blue connector for the Black Box.

Will let the board know if it fits/works when it arrives.

Volte · Apr 9th, 2007, 04:25 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by chris.lamb (original)

This is more like it, with a male & female radio connector plus the blue connector for the Black Box.

Will let the board know if it fits/works when it arrives.

Result!

Just realised that I've got notification turned off for this thread for some daft reason. I've not got anywhere, but it looks like you're making progress! top marks!

Where did you find this adaptor and how much is it?

Compared to the pictures of the set I've only got the messenger box and one lead with a traffic master button on the end in my set. What is the second button for, or is it an alternative? Also my button is round not square.

Cheers,

Michael

Phoenix · Apr 10th, 2007, 06:30 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Volte (original)

Result!

Compared to the pictures of the set I've only got the messenger box and one lead with a traffic master button on the end in my set. What is the second button for, or is it an alternative? Also my button is round not square.

Cheers,

Michael

There are 2 different leads.
1 has the larger 'Button' that, If I remember, switches the unit on.
The other lead, smaller rectangular one, has a small neon light that changes colour as traffic reports come in.

Regards

Feb 18th, 2007, 01:23 AM	#1
Volte MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Local Time: 04:30 PM Posts: 76 Offline	Mini Jambuster DIY Hi, Has anyone here fitted the Mini Jambuster themselves? Or has anyone got a picture showing it installed and /or where the button is located on the dashboard? Cheers.

Mar 17th, 2007, 08:32 AM	#7 (permalink)
chris.lamb MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Warwick Local Time: 05:30 PM Posts: 322 Offline	The button was fitted into the Plastic moulding fitted around the driver side outer face level vent (round one). I have an MG version in my MCS and the alerts have saved by bacon on more than one occasion. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by chris.lamb : Mar 17th, 2007 at 08:36 AM. Reason: added picture

Mar 18th, 2007, 09:48 AM	#8 (permalink)
Phoenix Cooper Reborn My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Pork Pie Land Local Time: 05:30 PM Posts: 767 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by DirkDiggle (original) Hello, I have got one of those Traffic master thingy majigs. Not an idea on how to fit it but my handy friend at Williams Bolton thinks he does so will let you know how i get on. did your 'handy friend' have any joy with fitting this? http://www.eastcoastminiclub.co.uk

Mar 18th, 2007, 10:25 AM	#9 (permalink)
DirkDiggle MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Manchester Local Time: 04:30 PM Posts: 5 Offline	Jambuster Not spoken to them yet, but will try and get hold of the official install procedures. There is some guy on here that is the bees knees, and he posts various documents to help us DIYers out. I got the manual for the retro fit computer of him!

Mar 20th, 2007, 07:31 AM	#12 (permalink)
Phoenix Cooper Reborn My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Pork Pie Land Local Time: 05:30 PM Posts: 767 Offline	It Proper name is 'Mini Messenger. Since I pm you I found a bit more about it.................... Quote: BMW Messenger. Real-time information to keep you moving. More and more journeys are now affected by congestion, and as the latest projections show, the problem is only going to get worse in the future. However, with BMW Messenger, using real-time information from the Trafficmaster network, drivers get early warning of delays and jams ahead and can re-route to avoid them - thus saving travelling time and making more productive use of their day. For fleet customers of BMW, BMW Messenger can make a real difference to the productivity (and morale!) of company car users. The retail price of BMW Messenger is £360 inclusive of VAT (but excluding fitting which takes an hour). The price covers not only the BMW Messenger hardware but also a lifetime subscription to the service provided via Trafficmaster. For models from the MINI range, the MINI Jambuster is available, based on the same Trafficmaster Messenger technology. What is BMW Messenger? BMW Messenger gives the driver real-time traffic flow information, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, based on the location and direction of their vehicle. The Trafficmaster network of sensors, transmitters and cameras are positioned throughout the UK on all major motorways and trunk roads (excluding Northern Ireland). When traffic speed drops below 30mph the system automatically transmits a report via the National Control Centre. Relating this information to the position of the individual vehicle, BMW Messenger then informs drivers approaching the hold-up of its location and expected delay. In 'audible' mode BMW Messenger over-rides radio, cassette or CD to inform the driver of his or her location, followed by details of the traffic problem, the approximate length of any tailback and the likely delay, highlighting the position of the hold-up by reference to junction numbers. The driver then has the opportunity to detour in order to avoid the hold-up. BMW Messenger can be set to 'silent' mode, warning of delays via the unit's green or red LED warning light. A 'motorway only' mode is also selectable which suppresses information about adjacent trunk road delays. Fitting BMW Messenger Installation of BMW Messenger can be carried out at any BMW Dealer (or MINI Dealers for MINI Jambuster) and is a swift and simple procedure. The retail price for fleet customers is £360 plus fitting which takes an hour; this cost includes a lifetime subscription to the Messenger service. Wonder if Mike (mickithemini) has any info? http://www.eastcoastminiclub.co.uk

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Feb 18th, 2007, 01:43 AM	#2 (permalink)
nephilin MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London Local Time: 05:30 PM Posts: 175 Offline	Sorry for being so ignorant, but what's a jambuster?

Feb 18th, 2007, 01:49 AM	#3 (permalink)
Volte MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Local Time: 04:30 PM Posts: 76 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by nephilin (original) Sorry for being so ignorant, but what's a jambuster? It appears to be an BMW/MINI add on that gives you trafficmaster voice warnings of traffic jams through the car speakers. It picks up the signals from the trafficmaster network and include a free lifetime subscription. I think they were launched in 2003. Was thinking of fitting one if I can get one cheap enough.

Feb 18th, 2007, 06:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
Volte MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Local Time: 04:30 PM Posts: 76 Offline	Anyone?

Feb 19th, 2007, 12:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
Volte MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Local Time: 04:30 PM Posts: 76 Offline	I guess that's a no then! Well I'm gonna take the plunge, for £9.99 delivered it's worth the risk! I'll let you know how I get on.

Mar 16th, 2007, 10:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
DirkDiggle MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Manchester Local Time: 04:30 PM Posts: 5 Offline	Hello, I have got one of those Traffic master thingy majigs. Not an idea on how to fit it but my handy friend at Williams Bolton thinks he does so will let you know how i get on.

Mar 19th, 2007, 01:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
jiffr MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Local Time: 05:30 PM Posts: 69 Offline	I had one on my Citroen c5 - not impressed. I does give traffic information but doesnt give alternative routes etc. if this is really what you want pay more and get Smartnav.

Mar 19th, 2007, 05:14 PM	#11 (permalink)
Volte MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Local Time: 04:30 PM Posts: 76 Offline	WOW! Where you lot all been hiding for the last month! I'd almost given up on this one, I've been struggling to get any info, and I'm not even sure if the thing was ever called MINI Jambuster. Maybe a thread titled MINI Trafficmaster would have got more attention..... Anyway, looking at the bits I received off ebay, I'm not sure I've got everything I need either. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.

Apr 1st, 2007, 10:00 AM	#13 (permalink)
chris.lamb MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Warwick Local Time: 05:30 PM Posts: 322 Offline	Volte, Looks like we're missing an adaptor harness of some type. Should connect the "black box" to the buttons and the car (power & radio interface). I have also searched high & low and can't find any installation info on the web. Anyone?

Apr 1st, 2007, 10:36 AM	#14 (permalink)
Phoenix Cooper Reborn My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Pork Pie Land Local Time: 05:30 PM Posts: 767 Offline	Think you maybe correct................. This is what comes in the Set? Haven't had the Radio out yet to see if there is a connection there. I too have looked around the net, and also drawn a blank..... Attached Thumbnails http://www.eastcoastminiclub.co.uk

Apr 2nd, 2007, 12:05 PM	#15 (permalink)
chris.lamb MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Warwick Local Time: 05:30 PM Posts: 322 Offline	Have already took my black box apart to try an reverse engineer the connections. Will post up what I find......... Meanwhile, any friendly BMW service type guys on here can help?

Apr 3rd, 2007, 06:16 AM	#16 (permalink)
Phoenix Cooper Reborn My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Pork Pie Land Local Time: 05:30 PM Posts: 767 Offline	Not sure if this is the lead thats needed? eBay.co.uk: BMW 3 5 Series & Mini ISO wiring harness lead PC2-75-4 (item 330105426611 end time 12-Apr-07 11:34:33 BST) http://www.eastcoastminiclub.co.uk

Apr 3rd, 2007, 09:52 AM	#17 (permalink)
chris.lamb MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Warwick Local Time: 05:30 PM Posts: 322 Offline	Phoenix, not the right one I'm afraid. That one converts old style BMW round pin to Iso connectors. The lead we need will have 1 multway rectangular connetor on one end (to black box) and then possible 3 connectors on the other end, (radio, button, light), but I am not sure. Thanks for looking!

Apr 4th, 2007, 09:56 AM	#18 (permalink)
chris.lamb MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Warwick Local Time: 05:30 PM Posts: 322 Offline	This is more like it, with a male & female radio connector plus the blue connector for the Black Box. Will let the board know if it fits/works when it arrives. Attached Thumbnails

Apr 9th, 2007, 04:25 PM	#19 (permalink)
Volte MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Local Time: 04:30 PM Posts: 76 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by chris.lamb (original) This is more like it, with a male & female radio connector plus the blue connector for the Black Box. Will let the board know if it fits/works when it arrives. Result! Just realised that I've got notification turned off for this thread for some daft reason. I've not got anywhere, but it looks like you're making progress! top marks! Where did you find this adaptor and how much is it? Compared to the pictures of the set I've only got the messenger box and one lead with a traffic master button on the end in my set. What is the second button for, or is it an alternative? Also my button is round not square. Cheers, Michael

Apr 10th, 2007, 06:30 AM	#20 (permalink)
Phoenix Cooper Reborn My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Pork Pie Land Local Time: 05:30 PM Posts: 767 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Volte (original) Result! Compared to the pictures of the set I've only got the messenger box and one lead with a traffic master button on the end in my set. What is the second button for, or is it an alternative? Also my button is round not square. Cheers, Michael There are 2 different leads. 1 has the larger 'Button' that, If I remember, switches the unit on. The other lead, smaller rectangular one, has a small neon light that changes colour as traffic reports come in. Regards http://www.eastcoastminiclub.co.uk

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