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3rdpillar · Apr 10th, 2007, 01:21 PM

Just over a week into R53MCS ownership and loving it.

Question: Is there any idication that the fog lights have been turned on whilst driving during daylight. Something none of us should do.

Having been fined for having front fog lights on during heavy rain. No joke!! I consirns me that i cant seem to tell if ive switched them on my mistake or not.

Please advise.

Will_'S' · Apr 10th, 2007, 01:24 PM

theres a light in the end of the chrome switches that lets you know they're on but its hard to see in daylight.

DaFlake · Apr 10th, 2007, 01:33 PM

And the obvious "you have to have the headlights on for the fogs to work".

3rdpillar · Apr 10th, 2007, 02:04 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by DaFlake (original)

And the obvious "you have to have the headlights on for the fogs to work".

Yep got that one!

Previous cars have had indicators on dash for side/head/mainbeam/lights & front / rear fogs. So was looking and didnt find.

mikeythemini · Apr 10th, 2007, 02:32 PM

Each time you start the car they default to off so you cant forget to turn them off they day after a night of fog

3rdpillar · Apr 11th, 2007, 11:11 AM

Check out last night. Missed the little light on the end of the switch.

This car is so endearing.

matt1985 · Apr 11th, 2007, 11:18 AM

.....fine for having your fogs on!?

Ok ok, i didnt know this.....i always drive with my fogs on! i think it adds a lil summin summin to mini's already superb looks.

more info would be useful! but then again even if im not supposed to then i still will!

I can see why rear fogs make a difference to everyday driving. But then again, even if theres abit of spray on the roads or motorway i will have as many lights on as i can find just to make me as visible as possible!

DaFlake · Apr 11th, 2007, 11:33 AM

People here in my area of Germany (mostly Americans) drive with their fogs on. It is against the law and to be honest I wish they wouldn't as the glare of them coming towards me makes it hard to see. It may look good, but if the person that is traveling 55 MPH in front of you can't see, you might just get slammed into because of it.

OneDriver · Apr 11th, 2007, 11:46 AM

Hmmm driving with fogs on really is a pain for other drivers...

Sometimes they are useful.. i.e when its foggy or when its really bucketing down and you are driving next to a vehicle (on the motorway) which is throwing up a lot of spray but for the most part they should stay off.

They certainly don't add a little something... . they just make you look like a pillock who forgot to turn his/her fogs off. Annoying for others... pointless for the driver.

3rdpillar · Apr 11th, 2007, 11:48 AM

I was told by plod that the fine for having rear fogs on when deemed uncessary was upto £2000.
so i was lucky that i was getting a small fine for having front fogs on when HE decided that they were unecessary. I got a non endorable £60 fine and had to take docs to local plod station.

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Jamesr022 · Apr 11th, 2007, 11:56 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by matt1985 (original)

.....fine for having your fogs on!?

Ok ok, i didnt know this.....i always drive with my fogs on! i think it adds a lil summin summin to mini's already superb looks.

more info would be useful! but then again even if im not supposed to then i still will!

I can see why rear fogs make a difference to everyday driving. But then again, even if theres abit of spray on the roads or motorway i will have as many lights on as i can find just to make me as visible as possible!

try this The Highway Code

its a £30 fine or summons to court for driving with your fogs on in anything less than fog! heavy rain or spray on the motorway does not count!

Gravity · Apr 11th, 2007, 12:05 PM

I HATE it when I see people driving with fogs on for no reason. It's totally unnecessary, distracting and sometimes causes glare. Not to mention incredibly annoying - makes me pink in the face from shouting!

jkjn · Apr 11th, 2007, 12:12 PM

Fog lights when it's not foggy is quite annoying when you are the oncoming driver. it is against the highway code and is a fineable offence. See rules 201 and 211 The Highway Code

TonyFoy · Apr 11th, 2007, 12:31 PM

As a follow up to this how do you tell your lights are on with the automatic lights option?

I remember from the manual that they are activiated via a light meter but should not be relied upon in fog during the day to come on. I was driving through fog the other day and had to switch to manual lights as I just did not know if the lights where active and this was only after I switched on the fogs and thought about it!

It's amazing how quickly you can get into the habit of not thinking about switching the lights on when you have the auto option.

PS I have sat nav so no central speedo

jkjn · Apr 11th, 2007, 12:43 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by TonyFoy (original)

As a follow up to this how do you tell your lights are on with the automatic lights option?

I remember from the manual that they are activiated via a light meter but should not be relied upon in fog during the day to come on. I was driving through fog the other day and had to switch to manual lights as I just did not know if the lights where active and this was only after I switched on the fogs and thought about it!

It's amazing how quickly you can get into the habit of not thinking about switching the lights on when you have the auto option.

PS I have sat nav so no central speedo

I also have the auto lights, the only way to tell if they are on is from seeing that the instruments and dash are lit up and from reflections on other cars etc. It's a shame that there's no audible warning when the lights activate.

As stated above though it's impossible to leave the fog lights on as they reset when the car/lights are switched off. You have to physically switch them on everytime you want to use them.

DaFlake · Apr 11th, 2007, 01:19 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by TonyFoy (original)

As a follow up to this how do you tell your lights are on with the automatic lights option?

I remember from the manual that they are activiated via a light meter but should not be relied upon in fog during the day to come on. I was driving through fog the other day and had to switch to manual lights as I just did not know if the lights where active and this was only after I switched on the fogs and thought about it!

It's amazing how quickly you can get into the habit of not thinking about switching the lights on when you have the auto option.

PS I have sat nav so no central speedo

No doubt! I generally look for the little line that appears on the high end of the fuel gauge. If it is lit, my lights are on. You do have to stay vigilant with fog and rainy days.

Maui · Apr 11th, 2007, 05:35 PM

Sometime causes Glare

Stop looking directly at the fog lights......

Works for me

DaFlake · Apr 11th, 2007, 08:27 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Maui (original)

Sometime causes Glare

Stop looking directly at the fog lights......

Works for me

What works for you may not work for others. We all have different tolerances towards light. I have better night vision than a lot of people and the extra light caused by the fogs on cars and trucks only makes it harder to see. It is not like I stare at them when I am driving, I am not that daft.

85NIXMIN · Apr 13th, 2007, 11:27 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 3rdpillar (original)

Check out last night. Missed the little light on the end of the switch.

This car is so endearing.

I didn't even know that there was a little green light at the end of the switch... I only noticed this today and I've had my car since October...

DaFlake · Apr 13th, 2007, 12:15 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 85NIXMIN (original)

I didn't even know that there was a little green light at the end of the switch... I only noticed this today and I've had my car since October...

Isn't it cool?

Apr 10th, 2007, 01:21 PM	#1
3rdpillar MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Blackburn Local Time: 01:56 PM Posts: 494 Offline	Are my fogs on or not? Just over a week into R53MCS ownership and loving it. Question: Is there any idication that the fog lights have been turned on whilst driving during daylight. Something none of us should do. Having been fined for having front fog lights on during heavy rain. No joke!! I consirns me that i cant seem to tell if ive switched them on my mistake or not. Please advise. Last edited by 3rdpillar : Apr 10th, 2007 at 01:26 PM. Reason: typo

Apr 10th, 2007, 01:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
DaFlake I miss my MINI Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hanging on The Cape! Local Time: 08:56 AM Posts: 10,428 Offline	And the obvious "you have to have the headlights on for the fogs to work". Global Moderator

Apr 10th, 2007, 02:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
mikeythemini I can't get no sleep My Classifieds Join Date: May 2002 Location: Capital of Culture Local Time: 01:56 PM Posts: 8,955 Offline	Each time you start the car they default to off so you cant forget to turn them off they day after a night of fog Lakes Tour 2008 coming soon Are you ready for Lakes 2008 - details soon

Apr 11th, 2007, 11:33 AM	#8 (permalink)
DaFlake I miss my MINI Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hanging on The Cape! Local Time: 08:56 AM Posts: 10,428 Offline	People here in my area of Germany (mostly Americans) drive with their fogs on. It is against the law and to be honest I wish they wouldn't as the glare of them coming towards me makes it hard to see. It may look good, but if the person that is traveling 55 MPH in front of you can't see, you might just get slammed into because of it. Global Moderator

Apr 11th, 2007, 11:56 AM	#11 (permalink)
Jamesr022 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Berkshire Local Time: 01:56 PM Posts: 133 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by matt1985 (original) .....fine for having your fogs on!? Ok ok, i didnt know this.....i always drive with my fogs on! i think it adds a lil summin summin to mini's already superb looks. more info would be useful! but then again even if im not supposed to then i still will! I can see why rear fogs make a difference to everyday driving. But then again, even if theres abit of spray on the roads or motorway i will have as many lights on as i can find just to make me as visible as possible! try this The Highway Code its a £30 fine or summons to court for driving with your fogs on in anything less than fog! heavy rain or spray on the motorway does not count! 2002 COOPER / 2003 ONE D / 2003 COOPER S

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Apr 10th, 2007, 01:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
Will_'S' Stealth Cooper Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lancashire Local Time: 01:56 PM Posts: 1,195 Offline	theres a light in the end of the chrome switches that lets you know they're on but its hard to see in daylight.

Apr 10th, 2007, 02:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
3rdpillar MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Blackburn Local Time: 01:56 PM Posts: 494 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by DaFlake (original) And the obvious "you have to have the headlights on for the fogs to work". Yep got that one! Previous cars have had indicators on dash for side/head/mainbeam/lights & front / rear fogs. So was looking and didnt find.

Apr 11th, 2007, 11:11 AM	#6 (permalink)
3rdpillar MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Blackburn Local Time: 01:56 PM Posts: 494 Offline	Check out last night. Missed the little light on the end of the switch. This car is so endearing.

Apr 11th, 2007, 11:18 AM	#7 (permalink)
matt1985 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Local Time: 01:56 PM Posts: 50 Offline	.....fine for having your fogs on!? Ok ok, i didnt know this.....i always drive with my fogs on! i think it adds a lil summin summin to mini's already superb looks. more info would be useful! but then again even if im not supposed to then i still will! I can see why rear fogs make a difference to everyday driving. But then again, even if theres abit of spray on the roads or motorway i will have as many lights on as i can find just to make me as visible as possible!

Apr 11th, 2007, 11:46 AM	#9 (permalink)
OneDriver It's only a one... Honest Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bristol & Cheshire Local Time: 01:56 PM Posts: 177 Offline	Hmmm driving with fogs on really is a pain for other drivers... Sometimes they are useful.. i.e when its foggy or when its really bucketing down and you are driving next to a vehicle (on the motorway) which is throwing up a lot of spray but for the most part they should stay off. They certainly don't add a little something... . they just make you look like a pillock who forgot to turn his/her fogs off. Annoying for others... pointless for the driver.

Apr 11th, 2007, 11:48 AM	#10 (permalink)
3rdpillar MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Blackburn Local Time: 01:56 PM Posts: 494 Offline	I was told by plod that the fine for having rear fogs on when deemed uncessary was upto £2000. so i was lucky that i was getting a small fine for having front fogs on when HE decided that they were unecessary. I got a non endorable £60 fine and had to take docs to local plod station. Cambridgeshire Constabulary - Frequently asked questions

Apr 11th, 2007, 12:05 PM	#12 (permalink)
Gravity Rhymes with depravity Join Date: Dec 2006 Local Time: 01:56 PM Posts: 2,737 Offline	I HATE it when I see people driving with fogs on for no reason. It's totally unnecessary, distracting and sometimes causes glare. Not to mention incredibly annoying - makes me pink in the face from shouting!

Apr 11th, 2007, 12:12 PM	#13 (permalink)
jkjn MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Midlands Local Time: 12:56 PM Posts: 228 Offline	Fog lights when it's not foggy is quite annoying when you are the oncoming driver. it is against the highway code and is a fineable offence. See rules 201 and 211 The Highway Code

Apr 11th, 2007, 12:31 PM	#14 (permalink)
TonyFoy MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Leicester Local Time: 01:56 PM Posts: 39 Offline	As a follow up to this how do you tell your lights are on with the automatic lights option? I remember from the manual that they are activiated via a light meter but should not be relied upon in fog during the day to come on. I was driving through fog the other day and had to switch to manual lights as I just did not know if the lights where active and this was only after I switched on the fogs and thought about it! It's amazing how quickly you can get into the habit of not thinking about switching the lights on when you have the auto option. PS I have sat nav so no central speedo

Apr 11th, 2007, 12:43 PM	#15 (permalink)
jkjn MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Midlands Local Time: 12:56 PM Posts: 228 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by TonyFoy (original) As a follow up to this how do you tell your lights are on with the automatic lights option? I remember from the manual that they are activiated via a light meter but should not be relied upon in fog during the day to come on. I was driving through fog the other day and had to switch to manual lights as I just did not know if the lights where active and this was only after I switched on the fogs and thought about it! It's amazing how quickly you can get into the habit of not thinking about switching the lights on when you have the auto option. PS I have sat nav so no central speedo I also have the auto lights, the only way to tell if they are on is from seeing that the instruments and dash are lit up and from reflections on other cars etc. It's a shame that there's no audible warning when the lights activate. As stated above though it's impossible to leave the fog lights on as they reset when the car/lights are switched off. You have to physically switch them on everytime you want to use them.

Apr 11th, 2007, 01:19 PM	#16 (permalink)
DaFlake I miss my MINI Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hanging on The Cape! Local Time: 08:56 AM Posts: 10,428 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by TonyFoy (original) As a follow up to this how do you tell your lights are on with the automatic lights option? I remember from the manual that they are activiated via a light meter but should not be relied upon in fog during the day to come on. I was driving through fog the other day and had to switch to manual lights as I just did not know if the lights where active and this was only after I switched on the fogs and thought about it! It's amazing how quickly you can get into the habit of not thinking about switching the lights on when you have the auto option. PS I have sat nav so no central speedo No doubt! I generally look for the little line that appears on the high end of the fuel gauge. If it is lit, my lights are on. You do have to stay vigilant with fog and rainy days. Global Moderator

Apr 11th, 2007, 05:35 PM	#17 (permalink)
Maui MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: May 2006 Local Time: 12:56 PM Posts: 82 Offline	Sometime causes Glare Stop looking directly at the fog lights...... Works for me

Apr 11th, 2007, 08:27 PM	#18 (permalink)
DaFlake I miss my MINI Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hanging on The Cape! Local Time: 08:56 AM Posts: 10,428 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Maui (original) Sometime causes Glare Stop looking directly at the fog lights...... Works for me What works for you may not work for others. We all have different tolerances towards light. I have better night vision than a lot of people and the extra light caused by the fogs on cars and trucks only makes it harder to see. It is not like I stare at them when I am driving, I am not that daft. Global Moderator

Apr 13th, 2007, 11:27 AM	#19 (permalink)
85NIXMIN MINI on the brain!!! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 10:56 PM Posts: 1,018 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by 3rdpillar (original) Check out last night. Missed the little light on the end of the switch. This car is so endearing. I didn't even know that there was a little green light at the end of the switch... I only noticed this today and I've had my car since October... If the world didn't suck we'd all fall off! www.myspace.com/85nix

Apr 13th, 2007, 12:15 PM	#20 (permalink)
DaFlake I miss my MINI Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hanging on The Cape! Local Time: 08:56 AM Posts: 10,428 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by 85NIXMIN (original) I didn't even know that there was a little green light at the end of the switch... I only noticed this today and I've had my car since October... Isn't it cool? Global Moderator

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