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Black Pearl · Sep 1st, 2007, 05:50 PM

I currently have a 2 spoke basic leather steering wheel on a 2003 cooper but the surface has started to go, so I would like to replace it.

I have seen a 3 spoke multi function steering wheel for sale but it has no airbag. Would the airbag from my current wheel fit into 3 spoke multi function wheel that I've seen for sale? And if so, is it possible to connect everything up to a multi function wheel when you just have the standard one?

Any advice welcome, thanks!

..Blackadder.. · Sep 1st, 2007, 05:56 PM

You'll have to get a different air bag yours won't fit you can get them of ebay for around £85 as for the MFSW you'll have to have all the wiring fitted so the MFSW works not cheap as i saw on a thread here somewhere its over £700

..Blackadder.. · Sep 1st, 2007, 06:05 PM

Found the thread here you go

The JCW steering wheel and new style airbag would be £410 inc vat and discount
the m/f and cruise control kit would be £155.00 inc vat and discount but the kit would take around six hours to fit,it is a very envolved job this would bring the total cost for the wheel and
m/f kit to £1001.00
Cheers
Chris

the rest of the thread can be found here http://www.mini2.com/forum/group-buy...ing-wheel.html

rkw · Sep 1st, 2007, 06:37 PM

There's a very good writeup on changing from 2-spoke to 3-spoke here:
http://web.mac.com/jonnieoh/iWeb/My%...%20How-To.html
However, that's assuming you already have MFSW on your car. Adding multifunction itself is a fairly involved process:
http://www.motoringfile.com/howto/MFSW.PDF

Black Pearl · Sep 2nd, 2007, 10:03 AM

Thanks both that's really helpful. As I dont currently have a MFSW and it's so costly to retrofit one, I think I should probably keep looking for just a normal 3 spoke wheel to come up for sale then - ideally with the airbag! MF would be lovely but I dont need it to be honest, it's just a very nice to have. And there was me thinking this would be so simple....!

dandpclements · Sep 17th, 2007, 06:31 PM

I've got a 2 spoke multi function wheel where the surface has started to go. If I get a 2 spoke wheel without multi function controls does anyone know if I can swap the multifunction controls over from the old wheel

Dave

theminiv · Oct 14th, 2007, 04:40 PM

I tried retrofitting mfsw on my 3 series a couple of years back. took about 3 hours according to instructions. The dealer said it was possible.

After all the work, wiring looms etc, it never worked. The stereo worked, but CC diddnt.

I called up thinking it would have to be activated on the electronics, to which bmw said it was not possible to retrofit!!!

So basically, do all your homework before even contemplating buying all the stuff!!

FlashBastd · Nov 22nd, 2007, 09:51 AM

Sorry to dredge up an old thread. I think people on here have successfully retrofitted the multi-function wheel. I visited my local dealer this morning, who told me that to retrofit the controls to a 3 spoke wheel was around £500 - this was the sale team though, and was just an estimate. I later spoke to the parts dept who told me the retrofit kit is £170 inc VAT (Part No. 65710395006), while the "Input Cylinder Clutch" (Part No. 21526758826, now superseeded) is around £55. On top of this you have 3.5hrs labour. It may be possible to reduce this time by supplying your car to the dealer with some of the trim already removed, or with the slip ring and steering wheel controls already fitted, so at least they wouldn't have to mess around with the airbag, etc.

Hugo · Nov 22nd, 2007, 03:17 PM

So You can add the multi-function kit to a 3 spoke wheel but CD changer won't work if you have a CD radio boost.

Check NewMinistuff they have wirelooms which Mini won't sell separately.. I had the Wave tape deck with CD changer when I bought the car, I already had the CD boost radio from my last Mini, whenever I enquired about buying the loom for the Boost they told me I would have to be the whole radio at £400. Checked out New Mini stuff and they had the loom.

FlashBastd · Nov 22nd, 2007, 05:33 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Hugo (original)

So You can add the multi-function kit to a 3 spoke wheel but CD changer won't work if you have a CD radio boost.

I don't get it, what is your point?

Hugo · Nov 23rd, 2007, 01:24 PM

I think this has already been answered in rkw links. doh

What I was trying to say was 'can you multifuction inserts to a normal 3 Spoke wheel? If you have CD boost radio will the CD changer still work?

linseyc83 · Jan 5th, 2008, 10:03 PM

glad i just come across this, i have been bidding on a 2 spoke steering wheel without airbag (multifunctioning) on ebay to replace my standard 2 spoke, does this mean its not worth it??

MINIAC · Jan 5th, 2008, 10:20 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by linseyc83 (original)

glad i just come across this, i have been bidding on a 2 spoke steering wheel without airbag (multifunctioning) on ebay to replace my standard 2 spoke, does this mean its not worth it??

All 2-spoke steering wheels use the same airbag:

RealOEM - Steering Wheels

Sep 1st, 2007, 05:50 PM	#1
Black Pearl Hannah banana! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Surrey & Oxford lol! Local Time: 11:36 PM Posts: 262 Offline	changing to a multi function steering wheel I currently have a 2 spoke basic leather steering wheel on a 2003 cooper but the surface has started to go, so I would like to replace it. I have seen a 3 spoke multi function steering wheel for sale but it has no airbag. Would the airbag from my current wheel fit into 3 spoke multi function wheel that I've seen for sale? And if so, is it possible to connect everything up to a multi function wheel when you just have the standard one? Any advice welcome, thanks!

Oct 14th, 2007, 04:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
theminiv MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Britain Local Time: 11:36 PM Posts: 580 Offline	I tried retrofitting mfsw on my 3 series a couple of years back. took about 3 hours according to instructions. The dealer said it was possible. After all the work, wiring looms etc, it never worked. The stereo worked, but CC diddnt. I called up thinking it would have to be activated on the electronics, to which bmw said it was not possible to retrofit!!! So basically, do all your homework before even contemplating buying all the stuff!! Focus > Mini One > Mini Cooper > Mini Cooper > BMW 316 > BMW 318 > MINI ONE > BMW 120i > MINI ONE PEPPER! - IM BACK!!

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Sep 1st, 2007, 05:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
..Blackadder.. I can't get no sleep Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Errr somewhere. Local Time: 11:36 PM Posts: 867 Offline	You'll have to get a different air bag yours won't fit you can get them of ebay for around £85 as for the MFSW you'll have to have all the wiring fitted so the MFSW works not cheap as i saw on a thread here somewhere its over £700

Sep 1st, 2007, 06:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
..Blackadder.. I can't get no sleep Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Errr somewhere. Local Time: 11:36 PM Posts: 867 Offline	Found the thread here you go The JCW steering wheel and new style airbag would be £410 inc vat and discount the m/f and cruise control kit would be £155.00 inc vat and discount but the kit would take around six hours to fit,it is a very envolved job this would bring the total cost for the wheel and m/f kit to £1001.00 Cheers Chris the rest of the thread can be found here http://www.mini2.com/forum/group-buy...ing-wheel.html

Sep 1st, 2007, 06:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
rkw MINI2 Senior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA Local Time: 03:36 PM Posts: 587 Offline	There's a very good writeup on changing from 2-spoke to 3-spoke here: http://web.mac.com/jonnieoh/iWeb/My%...%20How-To.html However, that's assuming you already have MFSW on your car. Adding multifunction itself is a fairly involved process: http://www.motoringfile.com/howto/MFSW.PDF

Sep 2nd, 2007, 10:03 AM	#5 (permalink)
Black Pearl Hannah banana! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Surrey & Oxford lol! Local Time: 11:36 PM Posts: 262 Offline	Thanks both that's really helpful. As I dont currently have a MFSW and it's so costly to retrofit one, I think I should probably keep looking for just a normal 3 spoke wheel to come up for sale then - ideally with the airbag! MF would be lovely but I dont need it to be honest, it's just a very nice to have. And there was me thinking this would be so simple....!

Sep 17th, 2007, 06:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
dandpclements MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2003 Local Time: 11:36 PM Posts: 1 Offline	I've got a 2 spoke multi function wheel where the surface has started to go. If I get a 2 spoke wheel without multi function controls does anyone know if I can swap the multifunction controls over from the old wheel Dave

Nov 22nd, 2007, 09:51 AM	#8 (permalink)
FlashBastd MINI2 Newbie My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Leeds, UK Local Time: 11:36 PM Posts: 31 Offline	Sorry to dredge up an old thread. I think people on here have successfully retrofitted the multi-function wheel. I visited my local dealer this morning, who told me that to retrofit the controls to a 3 spoke wheel was around £500 - this was the sale team though, and was just an estimate. I later spoke to the parts dept who told me the retrofit kit is £170 inc VAT (Part No. 65710395006), while the "Input Cylinder Clutch" (Part No. 21526758826, now superseeded) is around £55. On top of this you have 3.5hrs labour. It may be possible to reduce this time by supplying your car to the dealer with some of the trim already removed, or with the slip ring and steering wheel controls already fitted, so at least they wouldn't have to mess around with the airbag, etc.

Nov 22nd, 2007, 03:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
Hugo MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2006 Location: Norn Iron Local Time: 11:36 PM Posts: 2,441 Offline	So You can add the multi-function kit to a 3 spoke wheel but CD changer won't work if you have a CD radio boost. Check NewMinistuff they have wirelooms which Mini won't sell separately.. I had the Wave tape deck with CD changer when I bought the car, I already had the CD boost radio from my last Mini, whenever I enquired about buying the loom for the Boost they told me I would have to be the whole radio at £400. Checked out New Mini stuff and they had the loom.

Nov 22nd, 2007, 05:33 PM	#10 (permalink)
FlashBastd MINI2 Newbie My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Leeds, UK Local Time: 11:36 PM Posts: 31 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Hugo (original) So You can add the multi-function kit to a 3 spoke wheel but CD changer won't work if you have a CD radio boost. I don't get it, what is your point?

Nov 23rd, 2007, 01:24 PM	#11 (permalink)
Hugo MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2006 Location: Norn Iron Local Time: 11:36 PM Posts: 2,441 Offline	I think this has already been answered in rkw links. doh What I was trying to say was 'can you multifuction inserts to a normal 3 Spoke wheel? If you have CD boost radio will the CD changer still work?

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Jan 5th, 2008, 10:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
linseyc83 Butacupminicooper Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fife Scotland Local Time: 11:36 PM Posts: 15 Offline	glad i just come across this, i have been bidding on a 2 spoke steering wheel without airbag (multifunctioning) on ebay to replace my standard 2 spoke, does this mean its not worth it??

Jan 5th, 2008, 10:20 PM	#13 (permalink)
MINIAC MINI Profiler Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: City By The Bay Local Time: 03:36 PM Posts: 8,306 Online	Quote: Originally Posted by linseyc83 (original) glad i just come across this, i have been bidding on a 2 spoke steering wheel without airbag (multifunctioning) on ebay to replace my standard 2 spoke, does this mean its not worth it?? All 2-spoke steering wheels use the same airbag: RealOEM - Steering Wheels