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Carrera 4 · May 13th, 2003, 08:02 PM

Anyone tried buying or fitting a full roll cgae to a Mini? I know Safety Devices make a road and a competition one, but you try and find one to look at in a car!!! Any pictures or advice welcome. Looking to fit a full cage to my car "just for looks".

Racer · May 13th, 2003, 09:37 PM

Carrera4 No indication where you are based but any JCC car will do they all have safety device cages - more pics in my gallery

Carrera 4 · May 13th, 2003, 09:43 PM

Thanks.

Tried JCW before and the were "less than helpful", saying something like ..... "oh, I wouldn't do that".

I'm based in the Nottingham area and looks like you're way down south. Any JCC's up this way you know of?

KJ_daGreenMini · May 13th, 2003, 11:33 PM

i wouldnt do it either, although i have seen a JCWC fitted with a roll cage, a black one, and it looks wicked bad, so i can see why its appealing.

Racer · May 13th, 2003, 11:52 PM

There are a few in the Midlands - I would guess JCW's advice was based on the fitting - Fitting any roll cage IS a real pain and well worth paying someone else to do

- Best thing to do is visit a JCC event - We're at silverstone in August if you can wait that long

PS You lose the rear seats to anyone other than contortion experts with the full safety devices cage

Carrera 4 · May 14th, 2003, 03:28 PM

OK Racer, thanks for your help. I will try and get to a JCWC race soon and have a look.

If anyone else out there has any advice, let me know.

For example, other than cost does it matter if its the road or comp. version. I like the idea of the cross brace and harnesses.

Dom · May 14th, 2003, 06:23 PM

your insurance company won't like it

Unless you're planning on entering it in FIA regulated competitions, I don't think it matters if it's road or comp... Racer can probably confirm/deny that.

A bodyshop should be able to fit it for about £150

Dom

Carrera 4 · May 14th, 2003, 06:28 PM

Insurance companies are a pain for anything. I've often wondered why they would complain, it can't be value, car is worth less, it can't be reaplacement cost, if the cage is bent, the car is bent BIG time..... it must be prejudice!! and there are laws about that!

Dom · May 14th, 2003, 06:36 PM

apparently if you've got a roll cage that means you're going to roll it

Racer · May 14th, 2003, 06:51 PM

Insurance co's are a real pain when it comes to cages - Can't quite understand it because injury claims must be reduced and going from damage sustained during racing cage often stops panel damage since the other vehicle / obstacle can't intrude as far into the car - For evidence see the pics of AndyW's car at Lydden - without the cage he would probably have needed a roof and sill as well

Cages need to be to the std's specified in the MSA 'blue book' but I don't think they 'have' to be FIA approved unless it's an 'internationally rated' event

Dom · May 14th, 2003, 07:16 PM

CiS are cage friendly I think

May 13th, 2003, 08:02 PM	#1
Carrera 4 MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2003 Location: Derby Local Time: 11:51 PM Posts: 85 Offline	Roll Cage Anyone tried buying or fitting a full roll cgae to a Mini? I know Safety Devices make a road and a competition one, but you try and find one to look at in a car!!! Any pictures or advice welcome. Looking to fit a full cage to my car "just for looks". Attached Thumbnails One Life, Live It!

May 13th, 2003, 09:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
Racer Sponsor,Moderator & Racer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kent Local Time: 12:51 AM Posts: 1,373 Offline	Carrera4 No indication where you are based but any JCC car will do they all have safety device cages - more pics in my gallery JCW Club Sport Kawasaki Green / White Unofficial John Cooper Challenge Site

May 13th, 2003, 09:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
Carrera 4 MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2003 Location: Derby Local Time: 11:51 PM Posts: 85 Offline	Thanks. Tried JCW before and the were "less than helpful", saying something like ..... "oh, I wouldn't do that". I'm based in the Nottingham area and looks like you're way down south. Any JCC's up this way you know of? One Life, Live It!

May 13th, 2003, 11:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
Racer Sponsor,Moderator & Racer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kent Local Time: 12:51 AM Posts: 1,373 Offline	There are a few in the Midlands - I would guess JCW's advice was based on the fitting - Fitting any roll cage IS a real pain and well worth paying someone else to do - Best thing to do is visit a JCC event - We're at silverstone in August if you can wait that long PS You lose the rear seats to anyone other than contortion experts with the full safety devices cage JCW Club Sport Kawasaki Green / White Unofficial John Cooper Challenge Site

May 14th, 2003, 03:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
Carrera 4 MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2003 Location: Derby Local Time: 11:51 PM Posts: 85 Offline	OK Racer, thanks for your help. I will try and get to a JCWC race soon and have a look. If anyone else out there has any advice, let me know. For example, other than cost does it matter if its the road or comp. version. I like the idea of the cross brace and harnesses. One Life, Live It!

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May 13th, 2003, 11:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
KJ_daGreenMini what happened to that boy Join Date: Feb 2003 Local Time: 12:51 AM Posts: 1,687 Offline	i wouldnt do it either, although i have seen a JCWC fitted with a roll cage, a black one, and it looks wicked bad, so i can see why its appealing.

May 14th, 2003, 06:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
Dom Test thread infiltrator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Swindon Local Time: 12:51 AM Posts: 8,543 Offline	your insurance company won't like it Unless you're planning on entering it in FIA regulated competitions, I don't think it matters if it's road or comp... Racer can probably confirm/deny that. A bodyshop should be able to fit it for about £150 Dom

May 14th, 2003, 06:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
Carrera 4 MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2003 Location: Derby Local Time: 11:51 PM Posts: 85 Offline	Insurance companies are a pain for anything. I've often wondered why they would complain, it can't be value, car is worth less, it can't be reaplacement cost, if the cage is bent, the car is bent BIG time..... it must be prejudice!! and there are laws about that! One Life, Live It!

May 14th, 2003, 06:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
Dom Test thread infiltrator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Swindon Local Time: 12:51 AM Posts: 8,543 Offline	apparently if you've got a roll cage that means you're going to roll it

May 14th, 2003, 06:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
Racer Sponsor,Moderator & Racer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kent Local Time: 12:51 AM Posts: 1,373 Offline	Insurance co's are a real pain when it comes to cages - Can't quite understand it because injury claims must be reduced and going from damage sustained during racing cage often stops panel damage since the other vehicle / obstacle can't intrude as far into the car - For evidence see the pics of AndyW's car at Lydden - without the cage he would probably have needed a roof and sill as well Cages need to be to the std's specified in the MSA 'blue book' but I don't think they 'have' to be FIA approved unless it's an 'internationally rated' event JCW Club Sport Kawasaki Green / White Unofficial John Cooper Challenge Site

May 14th, 2003, 07:16 PM	#11 (permalink)
Dom Test thread infiltrator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Swindon Local Time: 12:51 AM Posts: 8,543 Offline	CiS are cage friendly I think

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