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BT1 · Sep 27th, 2003, 04:27 PM

Got my MCS on 1 September and I'm working my way through the manuals. Found that there's no menu option to adjust speed sensitive volume on the radio/CD. Dealer has replaced the unit and still no joy, but then they tried out a few other cars in the workshop with Harman Kardon and found they also had no speed related volume setting. Has anyone else found this?

Paul Manfredi · Sep 27th, 2003, 04:32 PM

I've got Harmon Kardon/Boost/CD like yourself, and i have never found anything like speed sensitive volume. In fact, I didn't know it was supposed to have it.

Sorry I can't be any help. If you find something let me now!

Paul

stryder · Sep 27th, 2003, 07:12 PM

Welcome to MINI2. Your dealer is a bit uninformed, its been discussed on here elsewhere, but I imagine it will be hard to find using the search feature.

Anyway, H/K has speed sensative volume, but unlike normal Boost head units it can't be adjusted. People who have replaced the head unit on H/K cars experienced the volume not changing, also if you listen closely you should (from what I know) be able to hear it getting louder as you speed up.

In any event, replacing the Head Unit won't fix anything, its 'supposed to be' that way, even though the manual doesn't say it right, I guess complaining to MINI might fix it, or perhaps new headunits that may come out could fix it, (but probably won't be compatible with your car)

Agnewkid · Oct 16th, 2003, 12:28 PM

The odd thing is the manual that comes with the 2004 MCS and the H/K stereo says there is an adjustment. It says you push and hold the tone button until 'TONE LIN' is displayed and the keep pushing until 'SPEED VOL' is displayed. When I tried this I got to TONE LIN fine but then it went to NAV MIN and then to RESET and next push gets me back to radio or CD. RESET, according to the manual is to reset the the tone adjustment.

stryder · Oct 16th, 2003, 02:41 PM

Yeah, its rather odd. That's the way its supposed to work on normal (Boost) stereo's... I guess the engineers aren't communicating with the manual writers

GBMINI · Oct 16th, 2003, 04:42 PM

If you read enough of the manual, there are other "errors" as well; I guess that is why they have the "subject to change" disclaimers all over the place!

shiredweller · Oct 16th, 2003, 06:42 PM

I have never felt the need to turn vol. up on my HK at speed. Don't know if the vol. is going up or the car is so quite there is no need. [Driving with windows up and A/C on] Note: Just too damn much bass

stryder · Oct 16th, 2003, 06:53 PM

Trust me, the car's not that quiet. Turn off the radio at highway speed and listen, its making a fair amount of noise, the radio's just happily compensating.

Gotham Taffer · Oct 16th, 2003, 07:43 PM

Amazing. I went through the exact same thing last night on my 2004 MCS with h/k. I was sitting in the garage for about 30 minutes trying to figure it out. My wife thought I was nuts. I kept looking at the manual at the "SPEED VOL" instructions but couldn't find the feature on the stereo. I'm glad I didn't even have to bother searching this forum for the answer, it was right at the top!

-GothamTaffer

stryder · Oct 16th, 2003, 11:28 PM

Great example of how if you're having one problem, someone else is probably having it too

shiredweller · Oct 18th, 2003, 01:37 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by stryder

Trust me, the car's not that quiet. Turn off the radio at highway speed and listen, its making a fair amount of noise, the radio's just happily compensating.

I do trust you, but my car is very quite at speed radio off or on. Maybe you'r tires make more road noise then mine. I have 15" Continentals. What you got? But I am not saying that the radio is not compensating. Just saying the car is quite thats all.

stryder · Oct 18th, 2003, 02:05 AM

I had the 16" dunlops. I think its probably more of what you're used to. The MINI is very square, and the upright windshield just makes a fair amount of noise compared to a sleek car, like a true sports car, or a higher priced luxury car.

Anyway, I think the MINI's quiet, especilly given its price range, but it does get louder at higher speed. Nothing to really complain about.

NEMINI · Oct 18th, 2003, 02:20 AM

If I remember correctly the reason the speed compensating volumn setting does not work from the headunit is because it is set at the H/K amp. It is changeable, from what i read, but needs to be done from the amp itself as the headunit is incapable of changing it.

mhoutman · Oct 18th, 2003, 08:29 AM

so may we call it a "bug" or "ommission"

lounytoon · Oct 18th, 2003, 09:38 PM

I had the dealer check my MCS because I was having the same problem. With the HK, the speed volume is automatically set to increase in small increments after 50 mph....sorry, no adjustments.

I personally can't seem to hear the difference, I just crank it up!

StevieJep · Nov 4th, 2003, 09:06 AM

I did the 30 minutes spent scratching my head bit last night with the manual, but no menu option for changing the volume.

I was all set to phone my dealer this morning, to ask why the option is not there. Then I thought - "I'll just check on MINI2, to see what the folks there have to say about it".

Glad I did, as now I am educated and it's stopped me from looking a plonker when I call my dealer.

So many questions can be answered on here, and so much information is available.

Thanks everyone.

Wobert · Nov 5th, 2003, 06:35 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by stryder

The MINI is very square, and the upright windshield just makes a fair amount of noise compared to a sleek car, like a true sports car, or a higher priced luxury car.

Anyway, I think the MINI's quiet, especilly given its price range, but it does get louder at higher speed. Nothing to really complain about.

Most of the noise is wind generated.... from moving through the air.....not from frightened passengers I hasten to add!

The biggest culprits are the windscreen/shield and the mirrors.....

I can confirm that above 130mph the noise level does increase significantly, along with the whine from the supercharger!

Hahahahaha

As tested on the Nurburgring!

Robert

plugot · Nov 30th, 2003, 09:55 PM

Took delivery of 2004 MCS with H/K, read the manual, went to the "LIN" input and no speed adjustment. The manual clearly indicates that the speed option is there, but it only shows the audio adjustment for the Navigation (which I don't have). I asked my dealer, and they said they'd heard that from others with H/K but didn't know whether it was user adjustable or not. Reading further thru the posts I see that it isn't adjustable by the driver. I just wish the manual stated it clearly. I wouldn't have been scratching my head. :apple:

EricLC · Dec 9th, 2003, 07:30 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by BT1

Got my MCS on 1 September and I'm working my way through the manuals. Found that there's no menu option to adjust speed sensitive volume on the radio/CD. Dealer has replaced the unit and still no joy, but then they tried out a few other cars in the workshop with Harman Kardon and found they also had no speed related volume setting. Has anyone else found this?

Yep, had the same in my One; but the sound does get louder in small steps when you increase speed; too bad you cannot adjust. My partner has a COOPER without the Harman/Kardon and there the menu appears for setting the speed volume, so it has to do with the way the H/K is linked to the Boost head-unit. Did not bother to ask dealer as they most likely do not know how to fix.

Lee L · Dec 9th, 2003, 07:47 PM

MY MA actually mentioned to me when going over the delivery checklist items that the H/K speed volume was not user adjustable and that there was a mistake in the manual. Of course I had already found that out by reading here and at MCO but it was nice that he mentioned it.

Sep 27th, 2003, 04:27 PM	#1
BT1 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hertfordshire Local Time: 05:48 AM Posts: 9 Offline	Harmon Kardon and speed sensitive volume Got my MCS on 1 September and I'm working my way through the manuals. Found that there's no menu option to adjust speed sensitive volume on the radio/CD. Dealer has replaced the unit and still no joy, but then they tried out a few other cars in the workshop with Harman Kardon and found they also had no speed related volume setting. Has anyone else found this? DS/W JCW-S

Sep 27th, 2003, 07:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
stryder Sponsor/Moderator/Other Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Cleveland Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 3,358 Offline	Welcome to MINI2. Your dealer is a bit uninformed, its been discussed on here elsewhere, but I imagine it will be hard to find using the search feature. Anyway, H/K has speed sensative volume, but unlike normal Boost head units it can't be adjusted. People who have replaced the head unit on H/K cars experienced the volume not changing, also if you listen closely you should (from what I know) be able to hear it getting louder as you speed up. In any event, replacing the Head Unit won't fix anything, its 'supposed to be' that way, even though the manual doesn't say it right, I guess complaining to MINI might fix it, or perhaps new headunits that may come out could fix it, (but probably won't be compatible with your car) Magic 8-ball was correct. All be in awe of Magic 8 ball.

Oct 16th, 2003, 02:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
stryder Sponsor/Moderator/Other Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Cleveland Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 3,358 Offline	Yeah, its rather odd. That's the way its supposed to work on normal (Boost) stereo's... I guess the engineers aren't communicating with the manual writers Magic 8-ball was correct. All be in awe of Magic 8 ball.

Oct 16th, 2003, 04:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
GBMINI MINI2 Master Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gloucester, MA, USA Local Time: 01:48 AM Posts: 7,604 Offline	If you read enough of the manual, there are other "errors" as well; I guess that is why they have the "subject to change" disclaimers all over the place! Ian C. Gloucester, MA, USA (UK expat) driving GPMINI and Convertible GBMINI#6

Oct 16th, 2003, 06:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
stryder Sponsor/Moderator/Other Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Cleveland Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 3,358 Offline	Trust me, the car's not that quiet. Turn off the radio at highway speed and listen, its making a fair amount of noise, the radio's just happily compensating. Magic 8-ball was correct. All be in awe of Magic 8 ball.

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Sep 27th, 2003, 04:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
Paul Manfredi MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Worksop Local Time: 06:48 AM Posts: 58 Offline	I've got Harmon Kardon/Boost/CD like yourself, and i have never found anything like speed sensitive volume. In fact, I didn't know it was supposed to have it. Sorry I can't be any help. If you find something let me now! Paul

Oct 16th, 2003, 12:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
Agnewkid MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2003 Local Time: 05:48 AM Posts: 6 Offline	The odd thing is the manual that comes with the 2004 MCS and the H/K stereo says there is an adjustment. It says you push and hold the tone button until 'TONE LIN' is displayed and the keep pushing until 'SPEED VOL' is displayed. When I tried this I got to TONE LIN fine but then it went to NAV MIN and then to RESET and next push gets me back to radio or CD. RESET, according to the manual is to reset the the tone adjustment.

Oct 16th, 2003, 06:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
shiredweller MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2003 Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 2,635 Offline	I have never felt the need to turn vol. up on my HK at speed. Don't know if the vol. is going up or the car is so quite there is no need. [Driving with windows up and A/C on] Note: Just too damn much bass

Oct 16th, 2003, 07:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
Gotham Taffer I'd rather be motoring Join Date: Jun 2003 Local Time: 05:48 AM Posts: 77 Offline	Amazing. I went through the exact same thing last night on my 2004 MCS with h/k. I was sitting in the garage for about 30 minutes trying to figure it out. My wife thought I was nuts. I kept looking at the manual at the "SPEED VOL" instructions but couldn't find the feature on the stereo. I'm glad I didn't even have to bother searching this forum for the answer, it was right at the top! -GothamTaffer

Oct 16th, 2003, 11:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
stryder Sponsor/Moderator/Other Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Cleveland Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 3,358 Offline	Great example of how if you're having one problem, someone else is probably having it too Magic 8-ball was correct. All be in awe of Magic 8 ball.

Oct 18th, 2003, 01:37 AM	#11 (permalink)
shiredweller MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2003 Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 2,635 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by stryder Trust me, the car's not that quiet. Turn off the radio at highway speed and listen, its making a fair amount of noise, the radio's just happily compensating. I do trust you, but my car is very quite at speed radio off or on. Maybe you'r tires make more road noise then mine. I have 15" Continentals. What you got? But I am not saying that the radio is not compensating. Just saying the car is quite thats all.

Oct 18th, 2003, 02:05 AM	#12 (permalink)
stryder Sponsor/Moderator/Other Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Cleveland Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 3,358 Offline	I had the 16" dunlops. I think its probably more of what you're used to. The MINI is very square, and the upright windshield just makes a fair amount of noise compared to a sleek car, like a true sports car, or a higher priced luxury car. Anyway, I think the MINI's quiet, especilly given its price range, but it does get louder at higher speed. Nothing to really complain about. Magic 8-ball was correct. All be in awe of Magic 8 ball.

Oct 18th, 2003, 02:20 AM	#13 (permalink)
NEMINI NEMINI.org Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 7,911 Offline	If I remember correctly the reason the speed compensating volumn setting does not work from the headunit is because it is set at the H/K amp. It is changeable, from what i read, but needs to be done from the amp itself as the headunit is incapable of changing it. NEMINI.org, NEMINI.us, NEMINI.info, NYMINI.org

Oct 18th, 2003, 08:29 AM	#14 (permalink)
mhoutman MINI2 Senior Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Netherlands Local Time: 06:48 AM Posts: 529 Offline	so may we call it a "bug" or "ommission" very "Works".

Oct 18th, 2003, 09:38 PM	#15 (permalink)
lounytoon wheeEEE factor Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: DC Metro Area Local Time: 05:48 AM Posts: 17 Offline	I had the dealer check my MCS because I was having the same problem. With the HK, the speed volume is automatically set to increase in small increments after 50 mph....sorry, no adjustments. I personally can't seem to hear the difference, I just crank it up! 2003 CR/W MCS Premium/Sport/Cold/leather/HK/anthracite trim

Nov 4th, 2003, 09:06 AM	#16 (permalink)
StevieJep Reluctant Seller Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Chesterfield Local Time: 05:48 AM Posts: 30 Offline	I did the 30 minutes spent scratching my head bit last night with the manual, but no menu option for changing the volume. I was all set to phone my dealer this morning, to ask why the option is not there. Then I thought - "I'll just check on MINI2, to see what the folks there have to say about it". Glad I did, as now I am educated and it's stopped me from looking a plonker when I call my dealer. So many questions can be answered on here, and so much information is available. Thanks everyone.

Nov 5th, 2003, 06:35 PM	#17 (permalink)
Wobert Mr 120d Sport Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Chester, UK Local Time: 06:48 AM Posts: 4,697 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by stryder The MINI is very square, and the upright windshield just makes a fair amount of noise compared to a sleek car, like a true sports car, or a higher priced luxury car. Anyway, I think the MINI's quiet, especilly given its price range, but it does get louder at higher speed. Nothing to really complain about. Most of the noise is wind generated.... from moving through the air.....not from frightened passengers I hasten to add! The biggest culprits are the windscreen/shield and the mirrors..... I can confirm that above 130mph the noise level does increase significantly, along with the whine from the supercharger! Hahahahaha As tested on the Nurburgring! Robert

Nov 30th, 2003, 09:55 PM	#18 (permalink)
plugot MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SoCal Local Time: 10:48 PM Posts: 165 Offline	Took delivery of 2004 MCS with H/K, read the manual, went to the "LIN" input and no speed adjustment. The manual clearly indicates that the speed option is there, but it only shows the audio adjustment for the Navigation (which I don't have). I asked my dealer, and they said they'd heard that from others with H/K but didn't know whether it was user adjustable or not. Reading further thru the posts I see that it isn't adjustable by the driver. I just wish the manual stated it clearly. I wouldn't have been scratching my head. :apple: 2004 Chilli Red MCS/ White. Cordoba Leather Interior. Sport, premium, cold package, driving lights, & stripes. visit us at USBLUESTATES.COM

Dec 9th, 2003, 07:30 PM	#19 (permalink)
EricLC MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Amsterdam Local Time: 06:48 AM Posts: 3 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by BT1 Got my MCS on 1 September and I'm working my way through the manuals. Found that there's no menu option to adjust speed sensitive volume on the radio/CD. Dealer has replaced the unit and still no joy, but then they tried out a few other cars in the workshop with Harman Kardon and found they also had no speed related volume setting. Has anyone else found this? Yep, had the same in my One; but the sound does get louder in small steps when you increase speed; too bad you cannot adjust. My partner has a COOPER without the Harman/Kardon and there the menu appears for setting the speed volume, so it has to do with the way the H/K is linked to the Boost head-unit. Did not bother to ask dealer as they most likely do not know how to fix.

Dec 9th, 2003, 07:47 PM	#20 (permalink)
Lee L MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Morrisville, NC Local Time: 01:48 AM Posts: 64 Offline	MY MA actually mentioned to me when going over the delivery checklist items that the H/K speed volume was not user adjustable and that there was a mistake in the manual. Of course I had already found that out by reading here and at MCO but it was nice that he mentioned it.

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