MINI2 Header Logo

MINI2

Fuel for your MINI obsession

Visit Derek Woodman MINI
Welcome to MINI2.
You are currently viewing MINI2 as a guest.
Please register by clicking this link or login:
       
Search forums: Show: Advanced: Forums or Members or Tags
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread
Old Apr 4th, 2002, 10:28 AM   #1
MadAboutMINI
MINI2 Regular
 
MadAboutMINI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Philadelphia Suburbs
Local Time: 02:03 PM
Posts: 97
Offline
H/K Retrofit

Let's put aside the great debate over the value of the H/K system for a minute. Considering that the H/K option is delayed until the fall in the U.S. would one be able to retrofit the H/K system to the standard system when it becomes available? Thoughts or comments?

Thanks!

Dave
-------
1993 Nissan Sentra SE-R
1999 VW Passat Wagon
2002 MINI Cooper S (I hope!)
United States   Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Sponsors

Sponsored Links


Registered members do not see Google Ads posts, they can also post messages, pictures, and classified adverts.
Register your free account today and become a member of MINI2 - MINI Forum
   
Old Apr 4th, 2002, 12:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
Silver Surfer
MINI2 Regular
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: rustington west sussex
Local Time: 07:03 PM
Posts: 198
Offline
retro fit for all items take the option price and X 4

thats what it seems to work out at in the u.k
United Kingdom   Reply With Quote
Old Apr 4th, 2002, 01:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
Jazzy Jase
Moderator
 
Jazzy Jase's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Berkshire, UK
Local Time: 07:03 PM
Posts: 432
Offline
My dealer says it is available as retro-fit. Something I may have to consider if it is not available until September production.
United Kingdom Male View Jazzy Jase's Dark Silver & Body Color 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Apr 4th, 2002, 07:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
snoopy
MINI2 Master
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: au
Local Time: 05:03 AM
Posts: 1,166
Offline
Exclamation

H/K refit

I have the same problem with the H/K and reto fitting. Here are some problems I have thought of in doing this.

First of all any thing can be refitted it is just a matter of how much MONEY you have.

The H/K is made up of the following parts.

Boost head unit.
H/K amp in the boot behind the RHS trim panel
2 new 6X9 speakers in the back
new 5.25 woofer in the lower front door trims
new mid and teeters mounted up in the top of the front doors
new speaker grilles for the 5.25 woofer
new grille and mounting for the mids and tweeters in the top of the door
new wiring harness

As you can see there is a bit of new stuff to be added. The biggest problem is the wiring harness they are different to the STD boost radio setup.

The simple part of the job is the mounting of all the new hardware. In the back remove the old 6x9 and add the new ones. Up in the front doors it might not be as easy. The 5.25 woofer should just mount straight in. The STD system there is only one speaker in the top door mounting location. With the H/K there is two, so the mounting points and system might be quite difference. Also you have the speaker grills need to be changed. Maybe even new door trims are needed.

Now that’s the simple part, the wiriness harness is the hard part. Here is a quick overview off the wiring I think is need for the h/k set up.

The inputs to H/K amp

4-speaker o/p from the boost head unit
Ground
12 volt
remote turn on
some from of control bus from the head unit (remember there is a DSP in the amp)
the speed control wire

Also the 8 speakers in the car need to be wired back to the 10 channels of the amp.


The price and part number for the h/k system is

65130029635 price 750 pounds (don’t think this includes the fitting cost)

I see in another thread there is talk of it getting delayed again.
Yes even later the sept build cars.
  Reply With Quote
Old Apr 7th, 2002, 06:05 PM   #5 (permalink)
LMB
MINI2 Privilege Member Has met Quack Quack Jack
Toon Toon..
 
LMB's Avatar
 
<div><a href=
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Up North
Local Time: 08:03 PM
Posts: 24,967
Offline
Quote:
Originally posted by snoopy
I see in another thread there is talk of it getting delayed again.
Yes even later the sept build cars.

My dealer recons we won't see them until December

Global Moderator
England Male View LMB's Thunder Blue & Silver 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 15th, 2003, 02:37 PM   #6 (permalink)
200mph
My 1st MCS had 1070cc
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Mooresville, NC
Local Time: 02:03 PM
Posts: 25
Offline
Hi Snoopy, and thanks.
I'll check with our dealer for instructions.
I'm not sure the retrofit kit is available in the states, so I'm not too optomistic. All US units already come with the "boost" head unit which is required for the H/K, so that is a step in the right direction.

I found this stuff on ebay, but its been horror show getting it. The guy advertised it as an "upgrade package", when it was just the amp, speakers and door speaker grilles and door trims from a wrecked Mini. I told him I also needed all the wiring looms and the connectors or he wasnt getting paid (false item description). Finally he put it all (I hope) together, I paid him $350 plus shipping and it just arrived. I cant recommend him, but here are a few ideas:

1. Send a PM to Minty. He works in a UK MINI dealer and can supply you the factory upgrade kit if/when available.

2. Place an ad on the marketplace board at mini2.com and minicooperonline.com looking to buy the H/K items from a wrecked Mini.
You will need:

LOL.... I was about to post a link to the description of all the stuff you'll need, when I realized... I was going to link to YOUR post above.

Anyway, as I get into this (slowly) I'll post my progress. As I understand it, the wiring changes may be a bit simpler than you have described. Keeping in mind that the Mini is a mass-produced car and that car-to-car variations need to be done simply on the assembly line...

It seems there are four wiring looms specific to the H/K:
left door
right door
rear speakers
Boost head unit to H/K amp
Also, there is a one T connector that goes inline between the boost head unit and the main factory harness, and I understand there is one more specific T connector. That should do it, and once the seats, carpet and door panel are off to swap looms out, it should be plug and play... I hope.
United States View 200mph's Indi Blue & Bright Silver 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile   Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Sponsors

Sponsored Links


Registered members do not see Ads posts, they can also post messages, pictures, and classified adverts.
Register your free account today and become a member of MINI2 - MINI Forum
   
Reply
More is car insurance


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
mfsw retrofit nalaboy 2nd Gen Interior & Ice 26 Sep 8th, 2008 12:55 PM
Retrofit OBC the-ruff-puppy Interior & Ice 13 Jan 23rd, 2007 09:30 AM
another retrofit!!! The_length Interior & Ice 2 Oct 11th, 2006 12:11 PM
Two Retrofit Questions Matt M. Interior & Ice 0 Dec 20th, 2003 11:23 PM
H/K Retrofit soopacoopa General Discussion 13 Jan 28th, 2003 07:23 PM