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wo53 rks · Aug 3rd, 2006, 01:29 PM

Due to eagerley pick up my GP next month, and i have read so much about the car not/having an alarm!!?? Can anyone confirm this point for me, as even the dealership couldnt confirm, only to say that they cant see it not having one!!!!??

LMB · Aug 3rd, 2006, 01:38 PM

The car doesn't have an Alarm, but who listens to them anyway. It does have a Thatcham CAT immobiliser though.

stargate · Aug 3rd, 2006, 01:41 PM

That's been cancelled due to a complaint by the RSPCA!

Tonyt3 · Aug 3rd, 2006, 04:06 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by LMB

The car doesn't have an Alarm, but who listens to them anyway. It does have a Thatcham CAT immobiliser though.

just about the only people to take notice of them are car theives. You try staying cool with an alarm going off..... people do look, but 99.98% of car alarms going off are false alarms....

I think its tight of them not to put one on. Its standard on an S after all...?

S33BBY · Aug 3rd, 2006, 06:09 PM

Yeah, I was going to say; the alarm is standard on an S, so I'd expect it on the GP, plus it's a pretty desirable car. It can't add that much weight, but then I guess ever gram counts!

LMB · Aug 3rd, 2006, 06:12 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tonyt3

I think its tight of them not to put one on. Its standard on an S after all...?

It is...can't cost much.

Fabio · Aug 3rd, 2006, 06:16 PM

what exactly is missing from the GP system, a siren

miles_oneill · Aug 3rd, 2006, 06:19 PM

The MINI Cooper S Works with a GP kit.
Does NOT come with the alarm that comes standard on the MCS.
It comes with the standard immobiliser but not the alarm. MINI has confirmed this to the dealers and has issued the part numbers and the (AWs) fitting time (how long it should take the dealer to fit).
Sorry to disappoint you guys but I repeat it does not have an alarm. However, is very easy to get your friendly dealer to fit.

Miles

Joogle · Aug 3rd, 2006, 06:21 PM

Been looking into this.

The alarm system is completely missing although the car is pre-wired for the kit to be fitted. Basically the dealer has told me its the alarm module, roof sensors and indicator stalk thats required (Retrofit kit). Last time they quoted me it was all in around £400 fitted - for that you can get a tracker system fitted.

Saying that you might get some goodwill from Mini because of how long we have had to wait for the cars..... If you dont ask you dont get.

S33BBY · Aug 3rd, 2006, 06:22 PM

Or do it yourself, though I can't say for definite if it will apply to the GP exactly...

LMB · Aug 3rd, 2006, 06:25 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Fabio

what exactly is missing from the GP system, a siren

Plus Sensors

Fabio · Aug 3rd, 2006, 06:26 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by S33BBY

Or do it yourself, though I can't say for definite if it will apply to the GP exactly...

i;ll be calling into Mikey

S33BBY · Aug 3rd, 2006, 06:29 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Fabio

i;ll be calling into Mikey

Good move.

Tonyt3 · Aug 3rd, 2006, 06:47 PM

Just a word of warning. My car started cutting out for a period of time about a year ago. Got so bad I had to call BMW assit.

Useless bloke in a BMW 5 series estate came round to have a look. Plugged his computer into the OBC port, found 'no reported faults'. So, he diagnosed the aftermarket alarm system as 'must be causing it'. It wasnt in my view, however, he said to illiminate it as a possible cause, it would have to be removed (at my expense) to see if the problem went away. Oh, and no, as wires had been spliced etc, it wouldnt be covered by warranty.

Anyway, gremlin went away after a little while, but suffice to say, I wasnt impressed by his attitude.

So think twice before fitting a non standard alarm. It could cause a similar head ache for your warranty.

Goonery · Aug 3rd, 2006, 07:23 PM

Tracker and ICE upgrade for me , with a Liverpool employed outfit for the fitting service

R1 · Aug 3rd, 2006, 10:18 PM

I must admit, and chastise me if you must, but what exactly is the point of the GP on the road?

I just don't get paying a premium for less of a car than a JCW S? Probably just me though as I like my toys and comfort!

LMB · Aug 3rd, 2006, 10:20 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by R1

I must admit, and chastise me if you must, but what exactly is the point of the GP on the road?

I just don't get paying a premium for less of a car than a JCW S? Probably just me though as I like my toys and comfort!

Paying premium?

You get more bang for buck on a GP than you do on a Works.

LMB · Aug 3rd, 2006, 10:21 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Goonery

Tracker and ICE upgrade for me , with a Liverpool employed outfit for the fitting service

Tracker is a waste of money imo. From what I've been told on the whole they're not that hard to find and remove.

R1 · Aug 3rd, 2006, 10:38 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by LMB

Paying premium?

You get more bang for buck on a GP than you do on a Works.

Not if your clever and buy an '06 JCW S with 2000 miles on the clock for £7000 of retail!

What I ment was 8 BHP more yes, but no rear seats, soundproofing, alarm, aircon, xenons!!!!! I couldn't cope!!!

R1 · Aug 3rd, 2006, 10:39 PM

How does this effect insuring the GP with no alarm?

Aug 3rd, 2006, 01:29 PM	#1
wo53 rks MINIMAD My Classifieds Join Date: May 2006 Location: south wales Local Time: 07:14 AM Posts: 253 Offline	Works Gp-alarm-no Alarm??? Due to eagerley pick up my GP next month, and i have read so much about the car not/having an alarm!!?? Can anyone confirm this point for me, as even the dealership couldnt confirm, only to say that they cant see it not having one!!!!??

Aug 3rd, 2006, 01:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 08:14 AM Posts: 24,967 Offline	The car doesn't have an Alarm, but who listens to them anyway. It does have a Thatcham CAT immobiliser though. Global Moderator

Aug 3rd, 2006, 01:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
stargate MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Thatcham, Berkshire Local Time: 08:14 AM Posts: 130 Offline	CAT Immobiliser That's been cancelled due to a complaint by the RSPCA! 210 BHP of FUN, FUN, FUN!!

Aug 3rd, 2006, 06:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
S33BBY MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hertfordshire Local Time: 08:14 AM Posts: 3,128 Offline	Yeah, I was going to say; the alarm is standard on an S, so I'd expect it on the GP, plus it's a pretty desirable car. It can't add that much weight, but then I guess ever gram counts! JCW Sound Kit \| H/K \| Sat Nav \| SS+ \| Xenons \| 17" Anthracite R90s \| Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3s \| ...

Aug 3rd, 2006, 06:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 08:14 AM Posts: 24,967 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Tonyt3 I think its tight of them not to put one on. Its standard on an S after all...? It is...can't cost much. Global Moderator

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Aug 3rd, 2006, 04:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
Tonyt3 Track addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hants Local Time: 08:14 AM Posts: 6,260 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by LMB The car doesn't have an Alarm, but who listens to them anyway. It does have a Thatcham CAT immobiliser though. just about the only people to take notice of them are car theives. You try staying cool with an alarm going off..... people do look, but 99.98% of car alarms going off are false alarms.... I think its tight of them not to put one on. Its standard on an S after all...?

Aug 3rd, 2006, 06:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
Fabio F43i0 My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2004 Local Time: 08:14 AM Posts: 3,839 Offline	what exactly is missing from the GP system, a siren bebo

Aug 3rd, 2006, 06:19 PM	#8 (permalink)
miles_oneill sm1les Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Buckinghamshire Local Time: 07:14 AM Posts: 37 Offline	Nop The MINI Cooper S Works with a GP kit. Does NOT come with the alarm that comes standard on the MCS. It comes with the standard immobiliser but not the alarm. MINI has confirmed this to the dealers and has issued the part numbers and the (AWs) fitting time (how long it should take the dealer to fit). Sorry to disappoint you guys but I repeat it does not have an alarm. However, is very easy to get your friendly dealer to fit. Miles

Aug 3rd, 2006, 06:21 PM	#9 (permalink)
Joogle MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2006 Location: Midlands Local Time: 08:14 AM Posts: 915 Offline	Been looking into this. The alarm system is completely missing although the car is pre-wired for the kit to be fitted. Basically the dealer has told me its the alarm module, roof sensors and indicator stalk thats required (Retrofit kit). Last time they quoted me it was all in around £400 fitted - for that you can get a tracker system fitted. Saying that you might get some goodwill from Mini because of how long we have had to wait for the cars..... If you dont ask you dont get.

Aug 3rd, 2006, 06:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
S33BBY MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hertfordshire Local Time: 08:14 AM Posts: 3,128 Offline	Or do it yourself, though I can't say for definite if it will apply to the GP exactly... JCW Sound Kit \| H/K \| Sat Nav \| SS+ \| Xenons \| 17" Anthracite R90s \| Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3s \| ...

Aug 3rd, 2006, 06:25 PM	#11 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 08:14 AM Posts: 24,967 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Fabio what exactly is missing from the GP system, a siren Plus Sensors Global Moderator

Aug 3rd, 2006, 06:26 PM	#12 (permalink)
Fabio F43i0 My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2004 Local Time: 08:14 AM Posts: 3,839 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by S33BBY Or do it yourself, though I can't say for definite if it will apply to the GP exactly... i;ll be calling into Mikey bebo

Aug 3rd, 2006, 06:29 PM	#13 (permalink)
S33BBY MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hertfordshire Local Time: 08:14 AM Posts: 3,128 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Fabio i;ll be calling into Mikey Good move. JCW Sound Kit \| H/K \| Sat Nav \| SS+ \| Xenons \| 17" Anthracite R90s \| Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3s \| ...

Aug 3rd, 2006, 06:47 PM	#14 (permalink)
Tonyt3 Track addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hants Local Time: 08:14 AM Posts: 6,260 Offline	Just a word of warning. My car started cutting out for a period of time about a year ago. Got so bad I had to call BMW assit. Useless bloke in a BMW 5 series estate came round to have a look. Plugged his computer into the OBC port, found 'no reported faults'. So, he diagnosed the aftermarket alarm system as 'must be causing it'. It wasnt in my view, however, he said to illiminate it as a possible cause, it would have to be removed (at my expense) to see if the problem went away. Oh, and no, as wires had been spliced etc, it wouldnt be covered by warranty. Anyway, gremlin went away after a little while, but suffice to say, I wasnt impressed by his attitude. So think twice before fitting a non standard alarm. It could cause a similar head ache for your warranty.

Aug 3rd, 2006, 07:23 PM	#15 (permalink)
Goonery You can put lipstick on.. My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2003 Local Time: 08:14 AM Posts: 13,713 Offline	Tracker and ICE upgrade for me , with a Liverpool employed outfit for the fitting service

Aug 3rd, 2006, 10:18 PM	#16 (permalink)
R1 Addicted to Speed!! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..."B" roads!! Local Time: 08:14 AM Posts: 4,915 Offline	I must admit, and chastise me if you must, but what exactly is the point of the GP on the road? I just don't get paying a premium for less of a car than a JCW S? Probably just me though as I like my toys and comfort!

Aug 3rd, 2006, 10:20 PM	#17 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 08:14 AM Posts: 24,967 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by R1 I must admit, and chastise me if you must, but what exactly is the point of the GP on the road? I just don't get paying a premium for less of a car than a JCW S? Probably just me though as I like my toys and comfort! Paying premium? You get more bang for buck on a GP than you do on a Works. Global Moderator

Aug 3rd, 2006, 10:21 PM	#18 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 08:14 AM Posts: 24,967 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Goonery Tracker and ICE upgrade for me , with a Liverpool employed outfit for the fitting service Tracker is a waste of money imo. From what I've been told on the whole they're not that hard to find and remove. Global Moderator

Aug 3rd, 2006, 10:38 PM	#19 (permalink)
R1 Addicted to Speed!! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..."B" roads!! Local Time: 08:14 AM Posts: 4,915 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by LMB Paying premium? You get more bang for buck on a GP than you do on a Works. Not if your clever and buy an '06 JCW S with 2000 miles on the clock for £7000 of retail! What I ment was 8 BHP more yes, but no rear seats, soundproofing, alarm, aircon, xenons!!!!! I couldn't cope!!!

Aug 3rd, 2006, 10:39 PM	#20 (permalink)
R1 Addicted to Speed!! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..."B" roads!! Local Time: 08:14 AM Posts: 4,915 Offline	How does this effect insuring the GP with no alarm?

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