[Checkie_checkmate]

HI All,

Just had a copy of this weeks auto express through the door and they have their 20 greatest drives this year (preformance drives that is) rated inside.

The GP came out 12th

"...was the fastest hot hach - both around the circuit and in a straight line"

nothing else exciting said, picture of it on 3 wheels though

Chris

[salocin]

Quote: Originally Posted by Checkie_checkmate (original)

HI All,

Just had a copy of this weeks auto express through the door and they have their 20 greatest drives this year (preformance drives that is) rated inside.

The GP came out 12th

"...was the fastest hot hach - both around the circuit and in a straight line"

nothing else exciting said, picture of it on 3 wheels though

Chris

Well it's on top of my list ..... money for fun value!

Thanks for the tip, off to buy a copy now!

[Paul]

What was 1st-11th?

[Tonyt3]

Yes, please put this in context. Let us know what its up against.

EVO rated the GP as the 5th best front well drive car ever, which i think is probably the most high praise I could ever see it getting....

[Root Ginger]

Not bad for a company who hadn't made a front wheel drive car until 5 years ago either.

[T-bone S]

Quote: Originally Posted by Root Ginger (original)

Not bad for a company who hadn't made a front wheel drive car until 5 years ago either.

Very true!

[No16]

Quote: Originally Posted by Root Ginger (original)

Not bad for a company who hadn't made a front wheel drive car until 5 years ago either.

Rover 75 some years earlier, quite a fine handling car for a big FWD saloon.

[salocin]

My local shops don't have Auto Express until Thursday...is that correct?

Meanwhile Autocar ran a Britain's Best Handling Car Of The Year feature in this weeks issue.

GP came second to the Ford Focus ST in the Hot Hatches section, first mag to put the ST above the GP I think?

Maybe they just don't like the GP's unavailability being such an industry driven publication? It was the only car they left off the track timings at Oulton Park !

They mentioned it was 4.5 seconds quicker than the Clio 197 so on that basis it did the circuit in 2.07.30 compared to the ST's 2.06.80.

Top six out of 18 cars

1st Cayman S
2nd Exige S
3rd 911 Turbo
4th DB9 Sport
5th 350Z
6th Focus ST

[Checkie_checkmate]

1) cayman S
2) Clio 197
3) Lambo gallardo
4) mazda mx-5 2.0
3) RS4 Saloon
6)BMW 335Ci
7) 911 Turbo
8)focus st2
9)Golf GTI
10)Caterham CSR260 superlight
11) Lotus Exige S
12) GP

That's from the autoexpress book, their top 12

[Root Ginger]

Quote: Originally Posted by No16 (original)

Rover 75 some years earlier, quite a fine handling car for a big FWD saloon.

Good point, although that wasn't BMW on their own, but then the MINI project began with Rover too.

[Goonery]

That MX5 must have have been doctored by some Mazda tuning wizard I think

Zoom Zoom my ar5e

[No16]

another outstanding piece of journalism by the sound of things

to say this

Quote: Originally Posted by Checkie_checkmate (original)

HI All,

The GP came out 12th

"...was the fastest hot hach - both around the circuit and in a straight line"

then put the clio in number 2 spot........what was there criteria for scoring? are they taking price and conveinience into it? haveing driven the cars in 1,9, 10(well not that exact model) & 11 have to say a golf GTi is mies away from the other 3, and on experiance of handling, comunication from tyres as to what's happening under you would have to put the caterham and exige above the porsche.....ho hum

Quote: Originally Posted by Checkie_checkmate (original)

1) cayman S
2) Clio 197
3) Lambo gallardo
4) mazda mx-5 2.0
3) RS4 Saloon
6)BMW 335Ci
7) 911 Turbo
8)focus st2
9)Golf GTI
10)Caterham CSR260 superlight
11) Lotus Exige S
12) GP

That's from the autoexpress book, their top 12

[Checkie_checkmate]

Didn't see this bit earlier:

Auto Express Greatest Drives | Auto Express News | News | Auto Express

"you can also see footage of your top 20 in action too,"

[salocin]

Do we really care how the popular press rates our MINI ... says smugly turning the key to his GP with a knowing wink!!!!!!

I do think that these publications are industry fueled and dare not upset any of the big manufacturers that give them the opportunity to thrash their cars around the place

The CAR OF THE YEAR awards would be a fine example of this pindi-pandering (I just invented that word)!!!

MINI GP's are history ....... their readers can't buy them new anymore, suddenly the slower Clio and the very capable but soleless ST are to the fore??

Am I being too sceptical........Nah!

[mGP]

I dont mind the 197.....That's pureley based on looks and a spec sheet mind you, Added to the fact an 02 Dynamique was my first car..but now I have A GP so stuff loyalties!...... so i'll just say this........
WTF Are two Chav-mobiles doing above the GP??? (ST/197)
Surely they can't be as good?

Anyway I'll keep in mind what salocin said, I always take those so-called "reviews" with a pinch of salt anyway.

Is it just me or do people think that "works'" cars just aren't taken seriously by the motoring press?.............

[No16]

Quote: Originally Posted by mGP (original)

WTF Are two Chav-mobiles doing above the GP??? (ST/197)
Surely they can't be as good?

yeah i love the bit about the ST where they say its not as focased as the old RS and all the better for it

[Tonyt3]

[quote=mGP;2660147]
WTF Are two Chav-mobiles doing above the GP??? (ST/197)
Surely they can't be as good?

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I find it hard to beleive that someone with a GP can accuse a Ford ST or Clio 197 of being 'Chav'....

As much as the looks of the GP have grown on me, its still just about the most 'chav' car that you can buy off a manufacturer at the moment....

[mGP]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tonyt3 (original)

[\QUOTE]


I find it hard to beleive that someone with a GP can accuse a Ford ST or Clio 197 of being 'Chav'....

As much as the looks of the GP have grown on me, its still just about the most 'chav' car that you can buy off a manufacturer at the moment....

Yes but how many chav's have you seen driving a GP??

[No16]

[quote=mGP;2660155]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tonyt3 (original)

Yes but how many chav's have you seen driving a GP??

please answer the following truthfully;

do you own a baseball cap?

is it burberry?

do you own white sandshoes?

do you wear these while not partaking in sports activities?

do you own a lightwieght sports activity jacket/anorack?

do you wear it in public?

do you wear any jewalry apart from a watch and a wedding ring?

do you look at the above questions and go ?

[mGP]

[quote=No16;2660167]

Quote: Originally Posted by mGP (original)

please answer the following truthfully;

do you own a baseball cap?

is it burberry?

do you own white sandshoes?

do you wear these while not partaking in sports activities?

do you own a lightwieght sports activity jacket/anorack?

do you wear it in public?

do you wear any jewalry apart from a watch and a wedding ring?

do you look at the above questions and go ?

1.no
2.no
3.no
4.no
5.no
6.no
7.no, sometimes wear a bracelet......silver........NOT GOLD
8.