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Chief_Charlie · Sep 25th, 2006, 03:04 AM

It's been 5 weeks since I have seen my GP after taking delivery in Monterey; so when we were re-united for the weekend, I took great pleasure in getting behind the wheel. Headed out to Hwy 1 for some "open road" driving, and for the first time experienced an almost-deafening amount of "road noise." Between 60 and 80 mph was the worst. On newly-paved sections (and I mean new, smooth-as-glass rubberized asphalt,) it was fine; but as soon as you were on older asphalt or concrete---grooved or smooth--it was terrible.

I know the GP doesn't have a rear seat, and maybe less sound insulation, but I can't believe the difference between the GP and my 04 MCS with Bridgestone S02 Pole Positions (which are even "louder" than the Yoko's on my wife's MCS).

Is it the runflats, or the lack of sound insulation in the GP?

Has anyone switched to non-runflats and noticed a difference---a quieter car?

Has anyone placed any sound-deadening material in the rear of the GP and improved the sound level?

Would appreciate any information/opinions. Thanks

Lorien · Sep 25th, 2006, 07:22 AM

Didnt like the runflats for other reasons (too stiff for me) so ordered other tires. as for the noise.. it didnt bother me, but once i install the new tires later this week i will return back

AprilWhine · Sep 25th, 2006, 09:30 AM

We've tried 16" runflats but there was no change in sound level. Fuzzy and I are in the JJ camp, we both like the sound of the engine.

T-bone S · Sep 25th, 2006, 12:44 PM

Road noise will be down to reduction in sound insulation/deadening inc removal of back seats and also large wheels with run-flat tyres

Chief_Charlie · Sep 25th, 2006, 01:15 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by AprilWhine (original)

We've tried 16" runflats but there was no change in sound level. Fuzzy and I are in the JJ camp, we both like the sound of the engine.

Sherry, I LOVE the sound of the ENGINE ! But it's the TIRES that are making the noise. Hit a patch of brand new pavement (several on Hwy 1 between Monterey and Santa Cruz) and it's llike night and day. Amazing...............

AprilWhine · Sep 25th, 2006, 03:19 PM

Oops, sorry Charlie.

I guess the bone rattling potholes on the streets of Norfolk distract us from the tire noise.

Chief_Charlie · Sep 25th, 2006, 03:24 PM

We have our share of potholes here too, especially on concrete highways; but the real killers are where they join concrete to asphalt. CalTrans just can't seem to make a smooth joint. There are some really bad ones; and when they're re-paving, the transition between overpasses and asphalt are bone-jarring!

mGP · Sep 25th, 2006, 08:48 PM

Yupp- I noticed the road noise first day I picked it up; And yes; riding some of the pot-holes may give me future back problems

SiBradbury · Sep 25th, 2006, 08:52 PM

"........and my wallet's too small for my £50 notes and my diamond shoes are too tight......."

Its a hard life

mGP · Sep 25th, 2006, 08:56 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by SiBradbury (original)

"........and my wallet's too small for my £50 notes and my diamond shoes are too tight......."

Its a hard life

Oh dear; I hope you kept the reciepts mate.

SiBradbury · Sep 25th, 2006, 08:59 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by mGP (original)

Oh dear; I hope you kept the reciepts mate.

I don't have a GP!! I wish I was in a position to experience road noise and ride stiffness problems!! Lucky buggers.

SiBradbury · Sep 25th, 2006, 09:04 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by AprilWhine (original)

We've tried 16" runflats but there was no change in sound level. Fuzzy and I are in the JJ camp, we both like the sound of the engine.

Congrats on the new addition Sherry! I'd forgotten you were getting one!!

mGP · Sep 25th, 2006, 09:11 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by SiBradbury (original)

I don't have a GP!! I wish I was in a position to experience road noise and ride stiffness problems!! Lucky buggers.

Not complaining; Just ensuring Cheif_Charlie knows he's not alone

AprilWhine · Sep 25th, 2006, 09:36 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by AprilWhine (original)

We've tried 16" runflats but there was no change in sound level. Fuzzy and I are in the JJ camp, we both like the sound of the engine.

Quote: Originally Posted by SiBradbury (original)

Congrats on the new addition Sherry! I'd forgotten you were getting one!!

Thanks Simon! Fuzzy and I both are enjoying playing with the GP.

GBMINI · Sep 26th, 2006, 12:23 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by AprilWhine (original)

... Fuzzy ... enjoying ... the GP

Really? Good!

I think I'll switch to GBMINI tomorrow, for a refresher course in good stereos and quiet tires - we'll see how long I stay away from the "dark side"

(well, Thunder Blue is darker than Chili Red!)

Jim Ray · Sep 26th, 2006, 09:29 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by GBMINI (original)

Really? Good!

(well, Thunder Blue is darker than Chili Red!)

Yes, I am starting to like that Gun Metal Grey.

One reason that I am starting to enjoy it a little bit is that this was the first weekend that it was able to be driven since we got back from Monterey. I may even get around to washing it if it stays out of the shop.

Sep 25th, 2006, 03:04 AM	#1
Chief_Charlie MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Santa Clara, CA Local Time: 02:40 AM Posts: 278 Offline	Road Noise in the G_P It's been 5 weeks since I have seen my GP after taking delivery in Monterey; so when we were re-united for the weekend, I took great pleasure in getting behind the wheel. Headed out to Hwy 1 for some "open road" driving, and for the first time experienced an almost-deafening amount of "road noise." Between 60 and 80 mph was the worst. On newly-paved sections (and I mean new, smooth-as-glass rubberized asphalt,) it was fine; but as soon as you were on older asphalt or concrete---grooved or smooth--it was terrible. I know the GP doesn't have a rear seat, and maybe less sound insulation, but I can't believe the difference between the GP and my 04 MCS with Bridgestone S02 Pole Positions (which are even "louder" than the Yoko's on my wife's MCS). Is it the runflats, or the lack of sound insulation in the GP? Has anyone switched to non-runflats and noticed a difference---a quieter car? Has anyone placed any sound-deadening material in the rear of the GP and improved the sound level? Would appreciate any information/opinions. Thanks

Sep 25th, 2006, 09:30 AM	#3 (permalink)
AprilWhine Loves the Fuzzy One Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Black Hills S Dakota Local Time: 03:40 AM Posts: 16,728 Offline	We've tried 16" runflats but there was no change in sound level. Fuzzy and I are in the JJ camp, we both like the sound of the engine. Global Moderator

Sep 25th, 2006, 12:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
T-bone S MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2006 Location: Berkshire Local Time: 09:40 AM Posts: 571 Offline	Road noise will be down to reduction in sound insulation/deadening inc removal of back seats and also large wheels with run-flat tyres MY05 MINI COOPER S - DS/B - GTT OPTIMISED- THANKS FOR THE RIDE - ENTER THE R56 JCW

Sep 25th, 2006, 03:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
AprilWhine Loves the Fuzzy One Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Black Hills S Dakota Local Time: 03:40 AM Posts: 16,728 Offline	Oops, sorry Charlie. I guess the bone rattling potholes on the streets of Norfolk distract us from the tire noise. Global Moderator

Sep 25th, 2006, 09:36 PM	#14 (permalink)
AprilWhine Loves the Fuzzy One Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Black Hills S Dakota Local Time: 03:40 AM Posts: 16,728 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by AprilWhine (original) We've tried 16" runflats but there was no change in sound level. Fuzzy and I are in the JJ camp, we both like the sound of the engine. Quote: Originally Posted by SiBradbury (original) Congrats on the new addition Sherry! I'd forgotten you were getting one!! Thanks Simon! Fuzzy and I both are enjoying playing with the GP. Global Moderator

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Sep 25th, 2006, 07:22 AM	#2 (permalink)
Lorien GP 1986 My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Provincia di Cuneo Local Time: 12:40 PM Posts: 401 Offline	Didnt like the runflats for other reasons (too stiff for me) so ordered other tires. as for the noise.. it didnt bother me, but once i install the new tires later this week i will return back

Sep 25th, 2006, 01:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
Chief_Charlie MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Santa Clara, CA Local Time: 02:40 AM Posts: 278 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by AprilWhine (original) We've tried 16" runflats but there was no change in sound level. Fuzzy and I are in the JJ camp, we both like the sound of the engine. Sherry, I LOVE the sound of the ENGINE ! But it's the TIRES that are making the noise. Hit a patch of brand new pavement (several on Hwy 1 between Monterey and Santa Cruz) and it's llike night and day. Amazing...............

Sep 25th, 2006, 03:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
Chief_Charlie MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Santa Clara, CA Local Time: 02:40 AM Posts: 278 Offline	We have our share of potholes here too, especially on concrete highways; but the real killers are where they join concrete to asphalt. CalTrans just can't seem to make a smooth joint. There are some really bad ones; and when they're re-paving, the transition between overpasses and asphalt are bone-jarring!

Sep 25th, 2006, 08:48 PM	#8 (permalink)
mGP ~ Join Date: Jul 2006 Local Time: 10:40 AM Posts: 957 Offline	Yupp- I noticed the road noise first day I picked it up; And yes; riding some of the pot-holes may give me future back problems

Sep 25th, 2006, 08:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
SiBradbury "I'm kind of a big deal" My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Wirral Local Time: 10:40 AM Posts: 1,160 Offline	"........and my wallet's too small for my £50 notes and my diamond shoes are too tight......." Its a hard life

Sep 25th, 2006, 08:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
mGP ~ Join Date: Jul 2006 Local Time: 10:40 AM Posts: 957 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by SiBradbury (original) "........and my wallet's too small for my £50 notes and my diamond shoes are too tight......." Its a hard life Oh dear; I hope you kept the reciepts mate.

Sep 25th, 2006, 08:59 PM	#11 (permalink)
SiBradbury "I'm kind of a big deal" My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Wirral Local Time: 10:40 AM Posts: 1,160 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by mGP (original) Oh dear; I hope you kept the reciepts mate. I don't have a GP!! I wish I was in a position to experience road noise and ride stiffness problems!! Lucky buggers.

Sep 25th, 2006, 09:04 PM	#12 (permalink)
SiBradbury "I'm kind of a big deal" My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Wirral Local Time: 10:40 AM Posts: 1,160 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by AprilWhine (original) We've tried 16" runflats but there was no change in sound level. Fuzzy and I are in the JJ camp, we both like the sound of the engine. Congrats on the new addition Sherry! I'd forgotten you were getting one!!

Sep 25th, 2006, 09:11 PM	#13 (permalink)
mGP ~ Join Date: Jul 2006 Local Time: 10:40 AM Posts: 957 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by SiBradbury (original) I don't have a GP!! I wish I was in a position to experience road noise and ride stiffness problems!! Lucky buggers. Not complaining; Just ensuring Cheif_Charlie knows he's not alone

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Sep 26th, 2006, 12:23 AM	#15 (permalink)
GBMINI MINI2 Master Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gloucester, MA, USA Local Time: 05:40 AM Posts: 7,514 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by AprilWhine (original) ... Fuzzy ... enjoying ... the GP Really? Good! I think I'll switch to GBMINI tomorrow, for a refresher course in good stereos and quiet tires - we'll see how long I stay away from the "dark side" (well, Thunder Blue is darker than Chili Red!) Ian C. Gloucester, MA, USA (UK expat) driving GPMINI and Convertible GBMINI#6

Sep 26th, 2006, 09:29 AM	#16 (permalink)
Jim Ray AprilWhine's Fuzzy One Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Las Vegas Local Time: 02:40 AM Posts: 1,541 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by GBMINI (original) Really? Good! (well, Thunder Blue is darker than Chili Red!) Yes, I am starting to like that Gun Metal Grey. One reason that I am starting to enjoy it a little bit is that this was the first weekend that it was able to be driven since we got back from Monterey. I may even get around to washing it if it stays out of the shop.

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