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dcc · Nov 11th, 2006, 09:26 PM

What's the vote on this I wonder?

I'm doing mine but I'm not sure if there is a need to change out that oil filter too.

LMB · Nov 11th, 2006, 09:35 PM

Is there a need to?

Tigger, Eeyore & Roo · Nov 11th, 2006, 09:48 PM

I would guess that it depends on how long you are planning on keeping the car for. If you are planning on keeping it long term, then definitely swap the oil at the end of the running in / break in period and change the filter at the same time. The oil AND the filter (and the remaining oil that is only accessable by changing the filter) are all likely to be carrying a load of microscopic debris from the running in process and this is your best opportunity to clear it all out. Either that or you can leave it contaminated for the next 8,500 miles.

No choice really.

Tigger.

CooperSRacer · Nov 12th, 2006, 03:11 AM

i'm going to be changing the oil and filter on my GP at the ~1250 mile mark. Since this is a car I will be keeping for a long time the 70 bucks or so seems worth it to me.
--Diego

obehave · Nov 12th, 2006, 03:39 AM

This used to be very hotly debated.
I did mine early and at 41K it hasn't been an issue.

ASTON · Nov 12th, 2006, 05:52 AM

Changed mine at 1400miles

Oil was dirty,but didnt really need changing

its just peace of mind

stephen orford · Nov 13th, 2006, 08:53 AM

I took my JCW Mcs into the dealers for an oil change when we had completed the run in period. I spent some time talking to the Service manager about this issue especially as the mini uses a synthetic oil. I decided that as we want this car to last us many years early oil changes can do no harm. Remembering that the wife drives the car to and from work once a day for a total round trip of 15kms. The build up of water and acids in the oil under these conditions is higher than if the trip was longer and the engine had a chance to warm up completely. Also any minute particles left behind from the casting / machining process need to be removed from the system. I also told them not to reset the engine computer so our first service will occur at the 15000kms as per the service manual.

MiniNana · Nov 13th, 2006, 02:50 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ASTON (original)

Changed mine at 1400miles

Oil was dirty,but didnt really need changing

its just peace of mind

Yeah, but did you check it through a microscope? You can't see microscopic debris with the nekkid eye. (We say nekkid in Texas)! MINI Papa will be changin' his after the breakin period of his GP. He has a whopping 250 mi so far.

ASTON · Nov 13th, 2006, 03:10 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MiniNana (original)

Yeah, but did you check it through a microscope?

only a really sad person with no life would do that

coded2112 · Nov 13th, 2006, 03:15 PM

Sorry can't agree if modern engineering and oil technology can't cope its a poor do! Mine will be changed as per the service indicator and not before!

Done 5000 miles now and love it, also drive everywhere like i stole it and no problems at all!

pbraun · Nov 13th, 2006, 04:32 PM

This has been hotly debated previously, but I will again give one of my opinions.

I am changing the oil AND the filter - I would not only change the oil alone, as the dirty oil stays in the filter - BEFORE I take the new car home from the dealership.

This removes the assembly lube and assorted debris from assembly before it gets a good chance to contaminate anything.

Oil and filter inspection is a valid and worthwhile procedure to determine wear and need of changing.

Nov 11th, 2006, 09:26 PM	#1
dcc MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2004 Local Time: 12:17 AM Posts: 129 Offline	GP oil chang at 1,250 miles What's the vote on this I wonder? I'm doing mine but I'm not sure if there is a need to change out that oil filter too. Texas GP0658

Nov 11th, 2006, 09:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 06:17 AM Posts: 24,895 Offline	Is there a need to? Global Moderator

Nov 11th, 2006, 09:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
Tigger, Eeyore & Roo I'm Back! My Classifieds Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kernow, near England Local Time: 06:17 AM Posts: 4,525 Offline	I would guess that it depends on how long you are planning on keeping the car for. If you are planning on keeping it long term, then definitely swap the oil at the end of the running in / break in period and change the filter at the same time. The oil AND the filter (and the remaining oil that is only accessable by changing the filter) are all likely to be carrying a load of microscopic debris from the running in process and this is your best opportunity to clear it all out. Either that or you can leave it contaminated for the next 8,500 miles. No choice really. Tigger. Unintimated and I'm back!! For sunshine, fun and Cornish Pasties: New MINI Kernow Cornish Oggy Run 2009!

Nov 12th, 2006, 03:11 AM	#4 (permalink)
CooperSRacer MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Plano, TX, US of A Local Time: 11:17 PM Posts: 32 Offline	i'm going to be changing the oil and filter on my GP at the ~1250 mile mark. Since this is a car I will be keeping for a long time the 70 bucks or so seems worth it to me. --Diego MINI Cooper S John Cooper Works with GP Kit #1599

Nov 13th, 2006, 02:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
MiniNana MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2004 Location: Texas Local Time: 11:17 PM Posts: 73 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ASTON (original) Changed mine at 1400miles Oil was dirty,but didnt really need changing its just peace of mind Yeah, but did you check it through a microscope? You can't see microscopic debris with the nekkid eye. (We say nekkid in Texas)! MINI Papa will be changin' his after the breakin period of his GP. He has a whopping 250 mi so far. '06 PW/B MCS JCW and LIL BOMB '06 GP #0907 driven by MINI Papa

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Nov 12th, 2006, 03:39 AM	#5 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 01:17 AM Posts: 9,388 Offline	This used to be very hotly debated. I did mine early and at 41K it hasn't been an issue.

Nov 12th, 2006, 05:52 AM	#6 (permalink)
ASTON A mini is a way of life. My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: South Wales Local Time: 06:17 AM Posts: 2,758 Offline	Changed mine at 1400miles Oil was dirty,but didnt really need changing its just peace of mind

Nov 13th, 2006, 08:53 AM	#7 (permalink)
stephen orford MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2005 Local Time: 03:17 PM Posts: 109 Offline	I took my JCW Mcs into the dealers for an oil change when we had completed the run in period. I spent some time talking to the Service manager about this issue especially as the mini uses a synthetic oil. I decided that as we want this car to last us many years early oil changes can do no harm. Remembering that the wife drives the car to and from work once a day for a total round trip of 15kms. The build up of water and acids in the oil under these conditions is higher than if the trip was longer and the engine had a chance to warm up completely. Also any minute particles left behind from the casting / machining process need to be removed from the system. I also told them not to reset the engine computer so our first service will occur at the 15000kms as per the service manual.

Nov 13th, 2006, 03:10 PM	#9 (permalink)
ASTON A mini is a way of life. My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: South Wales Local Time: 06:17 AM Posts: 2,758 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MiniNana (original) Yeah, but did you check it through a microscope? only a really sad person with no life would do that

Nov 13th, 2006, 03:15 PM	#10 (permalink)
coded2112 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bucks Local Time: 06:17 AM Posts: 293 Offline	Sorry can't agree if modern engineering and oil technology can't cope its a poor do! Mine will be changed as per the service indicator and not before! Done 5000 miles now and love it, also drive everywhere like i stole it and no problems at all!

Nov 13th, 2006, 04:32 PM	#11 (permalink)
pbraun Summer Splasher Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: in or near my MINI Local Time: 01:17 AM Posts: 661 Offline	Here we go, again This has been hotly debated previously, but I will again give one of my opinions. I am changing the oil AND the filter - I would not only change the oil alone, as the dirty oil stays in the filter - BEFORE I take the new car home from the dealership. This removes the assembly lube and assorted debris from assembly before it gets a good chance to contaminate anything. Oil and filter inspection is a valid and worthwhile procedure to determine wear and need of changing. Ride on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4l65QGCGzY BLOG: http://peterbraunblog.wordpress.com

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