[westycoopers]

CHECK THIS LINK OUT LOOKS LIKE A SCAM,
LOOK AT HOW LOW THE BIDS ARE AND ALO SCROLL DOWN TO THE QUESTIONS AND HE MENTIONS A PRICE OF £4500.

2006 MINI COOPER S JCW GP BLUE on eBay, also, Mini, Cars, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 05-May-08 10:27:31 BST)

ALSO IS THIS GPMICKS CAR WITH THE RED STRIPES DOWN THE MIDDLE?

LOOKS DODGY TO ME

[AprilWhine]

scam definitely, good spot.

[supa-dupa-cooper]

The scam with that car has been about before hasnt it?!

[westycoopers]

Quote: Originally Posted by supa-dupa-cooper (original)

The scam with that car has been about before hasnt it?!

dont know mate, just been on now and thought it looked dodgy,
isnt that somebodys car who is on here a lot though recognise the spots and stripes

[NeuroBeaker]

Hang on - I remember that same GP image being used on another scam.

I'm sure we decided that car actually belongs to someone on here!

I'm off to report the page to eBay.

Cheers,
Andrew.

[feenaldo]

Its does look an awful lot like GP Micks car, can't be that many about with those red stripes on.. I thought he was the only one

Can't belive the guy doing the scam has so much feedback tho.. must be a hijacked account as well as a scam listing.

[gpmick]

NOT my car
This is same scam that was on few weeks ago
same car probally same seller

[westycoopers]

Quote: Originally Posted by gpmick (original)

NOT my car
This is same scam that was on few weeks ago
same car probally same seller

didnt think it would be yours mate, just not seen any with stripes before,
just searched previous posts and found the ebay scams from earlier, never read them before but it sounds like the same fella,
what is his plan though if he just keeps deleting bids how is he making money?
dont get it.

[Scrogg]

Quote: Originally Posted by westycoopers (original)

what is his plan though if he just keeps deleting bids how is he making money?

Scammers like this always give out an e-mail address (hence his answers to all the questions) so that they can try and 'sell' the item without going through eBay/PayPal.

If some sucker actually pays for it before they see it, they make their money.

[r1_kde]

i think ebay should put scam votes on listings so the public can control this. something like that anyhow

[Tigger, Eeyore & Roo]

Quote: Originally Posted by NeuroBeaker (original)

Hang on - I remember that same GP image being used on another scam.

I'm sure we decided that car actually belongs to someone on here!

I'm off to report the page to eBay.

Cheers,
Andrew.

Well done for reporting it, though I'm not surprised that it's still up. I can't understand why eBay aren't more concerned about protecting their own reputation, by removing this sort of scam within minutes of being notified

[NeuroBeaker]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tigger, Eeyore & Roo (original)

Well done for reporting it, though I'm not surprised that it's still up. I can't understand why eBay aren't more concerned about protecting their own reputation, by removing this sort of scam within minutes of being notified

It's a question of volume - the sheer volume of listings means that they can't look at every one. If a seller has a past history with positive feedback, then their items aren't scrutinised as closely - even when a report is filed, the reported items from sellers with next to no feedback are higher on the priority for them to tackle.

Think how many people they'd have to employ to have an instantaneous response, and it quickly becomes clear why they sometimes are slow to act on a tip. It's not like MINI2 where we have willing volunteers up at all sorts of crazy hours to moderate everything at a moment's notice.

All the best,
Andrew.

[Tigger, Eeyore & Roo]

But it's still up, the bidding had now reached £2050 and there is only 4 hours until the end of the auction.

It's now highly likely that someone could get their fingers burnt here. Unfortunately, anyone that does loose money in these sorts of circumstances would probably be unaware if eBay had previously been notified. The sort of potential for liability in those circumstances might encourage eBay to act a little faster....

[Mike Edwards]

You're assuming that there's a person actually reading the message. This tends not to be the case.

[NeuroBeaker]

Just so you guys know what's going on with that listing:

My report to eBay:

Quote: Originally Posted by You suspect that a listing is fraudulent (you didn't bid)

Please note that this is a system generated email; please do not reply to this email because it won't reach us. You can contact the Customer support using the help section from the navbar.

Listing Policy Breaches > Fraudulent listings (illegal seller demands, item not received, etc.) > You suspect that a listing is fraudulent (you didn't bid)

Item Numbers(s):
130219963801

Message: I am a member of MINI2.com, a MINI enthusiast society online. The going rate for the car featured in that advert (a MINI Cooper S John Cooper Works GP) is in the region of £18,000-20,000. The asking price of £4,500 via e-mail should alone ring alarm bells. In addition, I've seen that exact picture used previously on an eBay advert (previously withdrawn). I also believe that is a picture of a car owned by a MINI2.com member (username: GPMICK). In addition, the GP is a limited edition car (only 2000 were made) and real sales include the identification number of the car (e.g. GP0001, GP0002, etc). Please see this thread for details to check if the real owner pops up: http://www.mini2.com/forum/john-coop...6745-real.html Please feel free to contact me via my e-mail address, eBay account, or via the MINI2.com screen name "NeuroBeaker". I hope all necessary steps are taken to protect eBay users from fraudulent activity. Many thanks, Andrew.

The eBay reply:

Quote: Originally Posted by Thank you for your report to eBay Trust & Safety (KMM25650084V14107L0KM)

Thank you for writing eBay's SafeHarbour Department about a listing or seller you would like us to investigate for fraudulent activity. We are very concerned about this type of activity and we will review your report as soon as possible, usually within 24 hours.

Due to privacy concerns, we cannot keep you informed about the status of our investigation. While you will only receive this acknowledgement of the receipt of your report, please be assured that we will thoroughly review the situation.

IMPORTANT:

The subject line you chose on the webform is reserved for reporting current items that may be listed for the purpose of committing fraud.

In order for us to dedicate resources to preventing this type of situation in a timely manner, reports directed to this area that do not relate to current listings that may be fraudulent (including reports of listing policy breaches and reports about items that may be prohibited) will not be forwarded to another department or answered. If you have any other questions or concerns, please contact us from the page below:

eBay: Redirect

We appreciate the time you took to contact us. To promote a safe trading environment for the eBay community, we prohibit users from engaging in any type of unlawful activity on the eBay web site and are dedicated to investigating such situations.

**Please do not respond to this email as your reply will not be received.

Regards,

eBay Trust & Safety
____________________

Learn more about buying and selling safely on eBay. Visit the eBay "Safety Centre" by clicking on the link at the bottom of the eBay homepage.
____________________

If the bidders are smart, they'll pay through PayPal and their money will be protected. If they're dumb and complete the transaction outside of the eBay mechanisms... well... there's only so much you can do to keep people safe on the internet.

All the best,
Andrew.

[Joogle]

There is an even cheaper one on there now......

GP 1948 (Cheltenam or Thailand on the list) currently at £155?

2006 MINI COOPER S JCW GP BLUE on eBay, also, Mini, Cars, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 05-May-08 22:34:29 BST)

[Tigger, Eeyore & Roo]

I'm sorry to say that the "auction" did run to term and someone has agreed to pay £5,100.11 for this car. No sign of eBay taking any action yet

I

[gpmick]

If we find out who bought it


Tell him about the GP Display

[Tigger, Eeyore & Roo]

Quote: Originally Posted by Joogle (original)

There is an even cheaper one on there now......

GP 1948 (Cheltenam or Thailand on the list) currently at £155?

2006 MINI COOPER S JCW GP BLUE on eBay, also, Mini, Cars, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 05-May-08 22:34:29 BST)

This one is now reported to eBay as well. I won't hold my breath though....

[FlintyGP]

2007 MINI COOPER S JCW BLACK on eBay, also, Mini, Cars, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 29-May-08 12:27:03 BST)

Not 100% sure, but this looks like another.
This must be a £18-20k car.