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Schmidt · Mar 5th, 2004, 03:39 PM

Evening all, Ive just test driven a MCS with the works kit fitted. Whas the general opinion with them, is it better to have it fitted from brand new or should I run in the "basic" S first.
For anyone who hasnt had a go in the works you should its ace.

ABG · Mar 5th, 2004, 03:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Schmidt

Evening all, Ive just test driven a MCS with the works kit fitted. Whas the general opinion with them, is it better to have it fitted from brand new or should I run in the "basic" S first.
For anyone who hasnt had a go in the works you should its ace.

You'll get different answers with this - some recon it's better to run a stock S and see if you "need" the works (or other) engine mod, others (like me) bought their car with it fitted before delivery. The good news is at least you are in the right part of the world to get a works kit fitted by John Cooper Garages which I think makes the kit v. special. And takes away worries about how well the local BMW dealership can fit them. And is usually cheaper.

Good luck whatever you decide to do!

Rich'sFroggy · Mar 5th, 2004, 03:55 PM

Was the one you test drove run in? What are your impressions compared to the S

AidenL · Mar 5th, 2004, 09:15 PM

But JCG don't give you back the left over bits?

Schmidt · Mar 6th, 2004, 01:04 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Rich'sFroggy

Was the one you test drove run in? What are your impressions compared to the S

The one I drove only had 500 miles on the clock, so was nowhere near run in. The acceleration was really impressive, as was the engine sound. The only thing stopping me is it brings the price of my brand new car up to 21,000 pounds which is a lot of money in my book.

ABG · Mar 6th, 2004, 05:12 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by AidenL

But JCG don't give you back the left over bits?

I'm sure some peeps have had them back from them - I think you just need to ask.

AidenL · Mar 6th, 2004, 05:36 PM

I was looking up East Preston on Autoroute last night.............

Schmidt · Mar 6th, 2004, 05:58 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by AidenL

I was looking up East Preston on Autoroute last night.............

Its a long way to drive from across the water mate( only 20 miles from me! )

AidenL · Mar 6th, 2004, 06:13 PM

You can say that again.........600ish miles for me............

ABG · Mar 6th, 2004, 06:30 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by AidenL

You can say that again.........600ish miles for me............

About 120 for me - they guys ended up driving my car up to deliver it as the bloke who drives the trailer was off sick

Would have liked to pick it up from the Works site - a great place with a lot of history

LMB · Mar 6th, 2004, 11:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ABG

I'm sure some peeps have had them back from them - I think you just need to ask.

I think people have and they said no.

MINISquidz · Mar 7th, 2004, 09:09 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Schmidt

The one I drove only had 500 miles on the clock, so was nowhere near run in. The acceleration was really impressive, as was the engine sound. The only thing stopping me is it brings the price of my brand new car up to 21,000 pounds which is a lot of money in my book.

That was pretty much my impression too. I got to drive one built by the local dealer...it had only about 700kms on it and although I couldn't bring myself to give it too much stick (cos it hadn't been run-in) you could tell that its performance is very impressive. The difference is a bit like driving an S after driving a Cooper. Only $8000 CAN between me and my WorksMCS!!

Schmidt · Mar 8th, 2004, 08:07 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by MINISquidz

That was pretty much my impression too. I got to drive one built by the local dealer...it had only about 700kms on it and although I couldn't bring myself to give it too much stick (cos it hadn't been run-in) you could tell that its performance is very impressive. The difference is a bit like driving an S after driving a Cooper. Only $8000 CAN between me and my WorksMCS!!

Ive given myself a bit of a headache, Ive ordered a brand new S but having driven the works I want one. As you say the only problem is £3500. Any one want to buy a kidney or something?

Bad Ess · Mar 8th, 2004, 02:33 PM

I would change the SC pulley. This may not have the top end of the JCW kit but the torque range is excellent. I run high test and have 12,000 miles with no other mods. (20 k on the car.) The WOT engine noises are higher than with the works. For regular sport dring it is almost as fast. This is a great cheap thrill.

harveyjoseph · Mar 8th, 2004, 11:20 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Bad Ess

I would change the SC pulley. This may not have the top end of the JCW kit but the torque range is excellent. I run high test and have 12,000 miles with no other mods. (20 k on the car.) The WOT engine noises are higher than with the works. For regular sport dring it is almost as fast. This is a great cheap thrill.

I just coudn't take it so I had the JCW fitted prior to delivery. I drove a MCS then ordered one and the works at the same time. I must say that the JCW puts a smile on my face every day. Its an expensive thrill but hey you only live once....

cityclinic · Mar 9th, 2004, 11:52 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Schmidt

Evening all, Ive just test driven a MCS with the works kit fitted. Whas the general opinion with them, is it better to have it fitted from brand new or should I run in the "basic" S first.
For anyone who hasnt had a go in the works you should its ace.

We fitted the JCW after twelve months and about 20,000 k's. After fitting it was like picking up a new car ... now it attracts even more attention .. not that I'm complaining

.

Schmidt · Mar 9th, 2004, 12:02 PM

[quote=cityclinic]We fitted the JCW after twelve months and about 20,000 k's. After fitting it was like picking up a new car ... now it attracts even more attention .. not that I'm complaining

.

Im thinking I might go down that line myself, have 12 months running it as standard then maybe get the conversion then.
Nice photo by the way.

paa100 · Mar 9th, 2004, 12:05 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by cityclinic

I didnt get any of those with mine.

Are they an Australian optional extra?

Vitesse · Mar 9th, 2004, 05:24 PM

I'm off to JCG next Monday and intend on asking for my old bits back, so I'll let you all know the outcome. Can't wait, it's almost as bad as the 5 month for the MCS in the first place and it's only been a week

Vitesse · Mar 9th, 2004, 05:26 PM

paa100 I'll check if JCG have got any of those spare as well???? Any preference????

Mar 5th, 2004, 03:39 PM	#1
Schmidt MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brighton, E.Sussex Local Time: 12:36 PM Posts: 37 Offline	Just test driven MCS Works Evening all, Ive just test driven a MCS with the works kit fitted. Whas the general opinion with them, is it better to have it fitted from brand new or should I run in the "basic" S first. For anyone who hasnt had a go in the works you should its ace.

Mar 5th, 2004, 09:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
AidenL Nice TTs......... Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: On The Coast........ Local Time: 01:36 PM Posts: 42,173 Offline	But JCG don't give you back the left over bits? *Global Moderator*

Mar 6th, 2004, 05:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
AidenL Nice TTs......... Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: On The Coast........ Local Time: 01:36 PM Posts: 42,173 Offline	I was looking up East Preston on Autoroute last night............. *Global Moderator*

Mar 6th, 2004, 06:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
AidenL Nice TTs......... Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: On The Coast........ Local Time: 01:36 PM Posts: 42,173 Offline	You can say that again.........600ish miles for me............ *Global Moderator*

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LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 01:36 PM Posts: 24,964 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ABG I'm sure some peeps have had them back from them - I think you just need to ask. I think people have and they said no. Global Moderator

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Mar 5th, 2004, 03:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
ABG Yatta!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Local Time: 01:36 PM Posts: 8,434 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Schmidt Evening all, Ive just test driven a MCS with the works kit fitted. Whas the general opinion with them, is it better to have it fitted from brand new or should I run in the "basic" S first. For anyone who hasnt had a go in the works you should its ace. You'll get different answers with this - some recon it's better to run a stock S and see if you "need" the works (or other) engine mod, others (like me) bought their car with it fitted before delivery. The good news is at least you are in the right part of the world to get a works kit fitted by John Cooper Garages which I think makes the kit v. special. And takes away worries about how well the local BMW dealership can fit them. And is usually cheaper. Good luck whatever you decide to do!

Mar 5th, 2004, 03:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
Rich'sFroggy MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Freeport, NY Local Time: 08:36 AM Posts: 168 Offline	Was the one you test drove run in? What are your impressions compared to the S

Mar 6th, 2004, 01:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
Schmidt MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brighton, E.Sussex Local Time: 12:36 PM Posts: 37 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Rich'sFroggy Was the one you test drove run in? What are your impressions compared to the S The one I drove only had 500 miles on the clock, so was nowhere near run in. The acceleration was really impressive, as was the engine sound. The only thing stopping me is it brings the price of my brand new car up to 21,000 pounds which is a lot of money in my book.

Mar 6th, 2004, 05:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
ABG Yatta!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Local Time: 01:36 PM Posts: 8,434 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by AidenL But JCG don't give you back the left over bits? I'm sure some peeps have had them back from them - I think you just need to ask.

Mar 6th, 2004, 05:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
Schmidt MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brighton, E.Sussex Local Time: 12:36 PM Posts: 37 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by AidenL I was looking up East Preston on Autoroute last night............. Its a long way to drive from across the water mate( only 20 miles from me! )

Mar 6th, 2004, 06:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
ABG Yatta!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Local Time: 01:36 PM Posts: 8,434 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by AidenL You can say that again.........600ish miles for me............ About 120 for me - they guys ended up driving my car up to deliver it as the bloke who drives the trailer was off sick Would have liked to pick it up from the Works site - a great place with a lot of history

Mar 7th, 2004, 09:09 PM	#12 (permalink)
MINISquidz MINI2 Newbie Join Date: May 2003 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Local Time: 07:36 AM Posts: 27 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Schmidt The one I drove only had 500 miles on the clock, so was nowhere near run in. The acceleration was really impressive, as was the engine sound. The only thing stopping me is it brings the price of my brand new car up to 21,000 pounds which is a lot of money in my book. That was pretty much my impression too. I got to drive one built by the local dealer...it had only about 700kms on it and although I couldn't bring myself to give it too much stick (cos it hadn't been run-in) you could tell that its performance is very impressive. The difference is a bit like driving an S after driving a Cooper. Only $8000 CAN between me and my WorksMCS!!

Mar 8th, 2004, 08:07 AM	#13 (permalink)
Schmidt MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brighton, E.Sussex Local Time: 12:36 PM Posts: 37 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MINISquidz That was pretty much my impression too. I got to drive one built by the local dealer...it had only about 700kms on it and although I couldn't bring myself to give it too much stick (cos it hadn't been run-in) you could tell that its performance is very impressive. The difference is a bit like driving an S after driving a Cooper. Only $8000 CAN between me and my WorksMCS!! Ive given myself a bit of a headache, Ive ordered a brand new S but having driven the works I want one. As you say the only problem is £3500. Any one want to buy a kidney or something?

Mar 8th, 2004, 02:33 PM	#14 (permalink)
Bad Ess MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Hampshire Seacoa Local Time: 08:36 AM Posts: 430 Offline	I would change the SC pulley. This may not have the top end of the JCW kit but the torque range is excellent. I run high test and have 12,000 miles with no other mods. (20 k on the car.) The WOT engine noises are higher than with the works. For regular sport dring it is almost as fast. This is a great cheap thrill. Ess

Mar 8th, 2004, 11:20 PM	#15 (permalink)
harveyjoseph Goin to fast to look back Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Merrimack, NH Local Time: 08:36 AM Posts: 1,825 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Bad Ess I would change the SC pulley. This may not have the top end of the JCW kit but the torque range is excellent. I run high test and have 12,000 miles with no other mods. (20 k on the car.) The WOT engine noises are higher than with the works. For regular sport dring it is almost as fast. This is a great cheap thrill. I just coudn't take it so I had the JCW fitted prior to delivery. I drove a MCS then ordered one and the works at the same time. I must say that the JCW puts a smile on my face every day. Its an expensive thrill but hey you only live once....

Mar 9th, 2004, 11:52 AM	#16 (permalink)
cityclinic MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2002 Local Time: 10:36 PM Posts: 1,580 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Schmidt Evening all, Ive just test driven a MCS with the works kit fitted. Whas the general opinion with them, is it better to have it fitted from brand new or should I run in the "basic" S first. For anyone who hasnt had a go in the works you should its ace. We fitted the JCW after twelve months and about 20,000 k's. After fitting it was like picking up a new car ... now it attracts even more attention .. not that I'm complaining .

Mar 9th, 2004, 12:02 PM	#17 (permalink)
Schmidt MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brighton, E.Sussex Local Time: 12:36 PM Posts: 37 Offline	[quote=cityclinic]We fitted the JCW after twelve months and about 20,000 k's. After fitting it was like picking up a new car ... now it attracts even more attention .. not that I'm complaining . Im thinking I might go down that line myself, have 12 months running it as standard then maybe get the conversion then. Nice photo by the way.

Mar 9th, 2004, 12:05 PM	#18 (permalink)
paa100 MINI2 Master Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Forest of Dean Local Time: 01:36 PM Posts: 1,313 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by cityclinic I didnt get any of those with mine. Are they an Australian optional extra? WhatCar? Claim: “As hot hatches go, it’s hotter than a blacksmith’s armpit.”

Mar 9th, 2004, 05:24 PM	#19 (permalink)
Vitesse MINI2 Senior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Westerham Local Time: 01:36 PM Posts: 685 Offline	Jcg I'm off to JCG next Monday and intend on asking for my old bits back, so I'll let you all know the outcome. Can't wait, it's almost as bad as the 5 month for the MCS in the first place and it's only been a week

Mar 9th, 2004, 05:26 PM	#20 (permalink)
Vitesse MINI2 Senior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Westerham Local Time: 01:36 PM Posts: 685 Offline	paa100 I'll check if JCG have got any of those spare as well???? Any preference????

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