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Tonyt3 · Dec 9th, 2004, 12:04 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by cook1e

Tony,

If you have paid for legal protection as part of your policy I'd insist that the insurers at least put it in the hand of their appointed solicitors and that an attempt is made to take legal action against the highways agency.

Two reasons for this, 1 you may recover your loss but also, 2 if there is a legal threat pending then this may push the highways agency into improving the junction to stop someone else having a similar incident.

I noticed just this week that there were some new double chevron signs being put up on a bend elsewhere in Hampshire (between Fleet and Hartley Wintney)where there was a fatal accident about a week previously. Now that can't just be a co-incidence can it? (Almost an admission of negligence me thinks

) This does show that action can be taken by the Highways Agency when there is a problem with the road signage that may lead to further RTAs.

Good points well made mate.... I'm sot that worried about my personal losses really, but what does scare the hell out of me is the fact that your life can potentially change so quickly for the most stupid of reasons.

For instance, driving home in my wifes car last night, went around a corner on a b road that I've taken mayber a thousand times. Felt the rear end drifting noticably - immediatly thought, cool, thats fun, but its never done that before on this road at these speeds, so I wonder whats going on? Tried the brakes, and immidiatly the car stars slipping all over the place, first left, then right. So scarey, came to a complete halt and got out to check to see if the wheels were actually still joined to the car. Couldn't see any problems so set off again driving very carefully, problems didn't re-occur. So what caused this? Not 100% sure, but the only time this has ever happened to me before, there was diesel spilt on the road - and I can only assume that this is what happened last night - again, life could change so quickly - you always tend to think its going to happen to someone else.

Intrepid · Dec 9th, 2004, 12:19 PM

be careful out there....

fingers crossed the insurers pay up! **fingers crossed smiley**

Adriann001 · Dec 9th, 2004, 12:32 PM

I have seen a more badly damaged MINI when mine was been repared at JCT 600 in bradford the front wheel had moved so much the passanger side a pillar had deformed the roof line. Mine had both the front wheels pushed back in the arches so they deformed body work in the same way yours have. Both air bags went off and i have had to have the dash replaced as well last price for repair was around 11K. If you do a search for uninsured drivers there are some pics on there. The main thing is that you are fine cars can be replaced limbs cannot.

laptop · Dec 9th, 2004, 05:19 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tony*t3

So what caused this? Not 100% sure, but the only time this has ever happened to me before, there was diesel spilt on the road - and I can only assume that this is what happened last night - again, life could change so quickly - you always tend to think its going to happen to someone else.

Have you had much rain??

The road salt applied to the road surface will stay present for some considerable time if not washed away by rain. Road salt is deliquescent-it pulls moisture out of the air. It is slippery when in a mildly damp state as the thin film of crushed salt reduces the coefficient of friction between road and tyre. This is currently the situation on our roads here in Cornwall. The roads in the winter tend to appear "sweaty" even though it hasn't been wet or drizzly.

With regards to the collision....thank goodness you are relatively unhurt. I personally would be interested in viewing an approach shot of this "minor" off slip, and exactly what signage is in place. It would probably be a good idea to take one anyway, in case any remedial work is conducted to the area before a solicitor is on board. Consider getting a camcorder video recording done from the passenger seat of a friends car before anything changes.

On a downside, the Highways Agency are rarely wrong when it comes to major trunk roads. The signage requirements are well documented within a manual that the district surveyor will use as reference. If the book has been followed, even though it may not appear to make total sense, then they tend to be bullet proof. However, if there is anything wrong, consider making only a "reasonable" claim. In my opinion (for what its worth), there will be a better chance of them settling a modest and accurate claim, than a highly inflated one. Good luck with this.....if they are at fault you deserve to be totally reimbursed.

Tonyt3 · Dec 11th, 2004, 06:05 PM

Just put a deposit down on a replacement car....

http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...02#post1246402

What do you think?

AidenL · Dec 11th, 2004, 06:15 PM

Not a lot wrong with the replacement..............

Tonyt3 · Jan 17th, 2005, 07:41 PM

All's well - the insurers coughed up - £17,800...!!!!!!!!!.

Now proud owner of a newer, better equiped Cooper S Works....

Sincere thanks to everyone thats helped out and given their best wishes - Thanks Guys and Gals.

Regards
Tony

ImaVunDerBrah · Jan 17th, 2005, 07:42 PM

Congrats on the Works S

Glad to hear it all turned out well in the end

GOGADGET · Jan 17th, 2005, 08:04 PM

Glad to hear it's all worked out for you Tony.

Richard Crofts · Jan 18th, 2005, 04:35 PM

Really sorry to hear, apols for the late commiserations by me.

At least you were OK and no other cars were involved.

R

Leccy_Blue · Jan 18th, 2005, 05:15 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tony*t3

All's well - the insurers coughed up - £17,800...!!!!!!!!!.

Now proud owner of a newer, better equiped Cooper S Works....

Sincere thanks to everyone thats helped out and given their best wishes - Thanks Guys and Gals.

Regards
Tony

Well done mate!!!!

I only saw this post a few minutes back so thought I would check your sweepstake: http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...0&page=2&pp=15

Just realised I won

Whats my prize then??

LB.

Tonyt3 · Jan 18th, 2005, 06:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Leccy_Blue

Well done mate!!!!

I only saw this post a few minutes back so thought I would check your sweepstake: http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...0&page=2&pp=15

Just realised I won

Whats my prize then??

LB.

I did say you won before.....

Intrepid · Jan 19th, 2005, 10:21 AM

Hey! Congrats - it all Works-ed out in the end eh?! (groan..)

matt21 · Jan 19th, 2005, 12:35 PM

congrats on returning back to minidom

Dec 9th, 2004, 12:04 PM	#141
Tonyt3 Track addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hants Local Time: 06:15 AM Posts: 6,258 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by cook1e Tony, If you have paid for legal protection as part of your policy I'd insist that the insurers at least put it in the hand of their appointed solicitors and that an attempt is made to take legal action against the highways agency. Two reasons for this, 1 you may recover your loss but also, 2 if there is a legal threat pending then this may push the highways agency into improving the junction to stop someone else having a similar incident. I noticed just this week that there were some new double chevron signs being put up on a bend elsewhere in Hampshire (between Fleet and Hartley Wintney)where there was a fatal accident about a week previously. Now that can't just be a co-incidence can it? (Almost an admission of negligence me thinks ) This does show that action can be taken by the Highways Agency when there is a problem with the road signage that may lead to further RTAs. Good points well made mate.... I'm sot that worried about my personal losses really, but what does scare the hell out of me is the fact that your life can potentially change so quickly for the most stupid of reasons. For instance, driving home in my wifes car last night, went around a corner on a b road that I've taken mayber a thousand times. Felt the rear end drifting noticably - immediatly thought, cool, thats fun, but its never done that before on this road at these speeds, so I wonder whats going on? Tried the brakes, and immidiatly the car stars slipping all over the place, first left, then right. So scarey, came to a complete halt and got out to check to see if the wheels were actually still joined to the car. Couldn't see any problems so set off again driving very carefully, problems didn't re-occur. So what caused this? Not 100% sure, but the only time this has ever happened to me before, there was diesel spilt on the road - and I can only assume that this is what happened last night - again, life could change so quickly - you always tend to think its going to happen to someone else. http://www.mini2.com/forum/models-co...ming-soon.html

Dec 9th, 2004, 12:19 PM	#142 (permalink)
Intrepid Gutter Princess Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Planet Hoff Local Time: 05:15 AM Posts: 3,477 Offline	be careful out there.... fingers crossed the insurers pay up! fingers crossed smiley http://www.mini2.com/gallery/personal/11588/54205.jpg

Dec 11th, 2004, 06:05 PM	#145 (permalink)
Tonyt3 Track addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hants Local Time: 06:15 AM Posts: 6,258 Offline	Just put a deposit down on a replacement car.... http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...02#post1246402 What do you think? http://www.mini2.com/forum/models-co...ming-soon.html

Dec 11th, 2004, 06:15 PM	#146 (permalink)
AidenL Nice TTs......... Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: On The Coast........ Local Time: 06:15 AM Posts: 42,151 Offline	Not a lot wrong with the replacement.............. *Global Moderator*

Jan 17th, 2005, 07:41 PM	#147 (permalink)
Tonyt3 Track addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hants Local Time: 06:15 AM Posts: 6,258 Offline	All's well - the insurers coughed up - £17,800...!!!!!!!!!. Now proud owner of a newer, better equiped Cooper S Works.... Sincere thanks to everyone thats helped out and given their best wishes - Thanks Guys and Gals. Regards Tony http://www.mini2.com/forum/models-co...ming-soon.html

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Dec 9th, 2004, 12:32 PM	#143 (permalink)
Adriann001 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2003 Local Time: 09:15 AM Posts: 149 Offline	I have seen a more badly damaged MINI when mine was been repared at JCT 600 in bradford the front wheel had moved so much the passanger side a pillar had deformed the roof line. Mine had both the front wheels pushed back in the arches so they deformed body work in the same way yours have. Both air bags went off and i have had to have the dash replaced as well last price for repair was around 11K. If you do a search for uninsured drivers there are some pics on there. The main thing is that you are fine cars can be replaced limbs cannot.

Dec 9th, 2004, 05:19 PM	#144 (permalink)
laptop Scalextric Test Driver Join Date: May 2004 Location: In the dog house Local Time: 06:15 AM Posts: 242 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by *Tonyt3** So what caused this? Not 100% sure, but the only time this has ever happened to me before, there was diesel spilt on the road - and I can only assume that this is what happened last night - again, life could change so quickly - you always tend to think its going to happen to someone else. Have you had much rain?? The road salt applied to the road surface will stay present for some considerable time if not washed away by rain. Road salt is deliquescent-it pulls moisture out of the air. It is slippery when in a mildly damp state as the thin film of crushed salt reduces the coefficient of friction between road and tyre. This is currently the situation on our roads here in Cornwall. The roads in the winter tend to appear "sweaty" even though it hasn't been wet or drizzly. With regards to the collision....thank goodness you are relatively unhurt. I personally would be interested in viewing an approach shot of this "minor" off slip, and exactly what signage is in place. It would probably be a good idea to take one anyway, in case any remedial work is conducted to the area before a solicitor is on board. Consider getting a camcorder video recording done from the passenger seat of a friends car before anything changes. On a downside, the Highways Agency are rarely wrong when it comes to major trunk roads. The signage requirements are well documented within a manual that the district surveyor will use as reference. If the book has been followed, even though it may not appear to make total sense, then they tend to be bullet proof. However, if there is anything wrong, consider making only a "reasonable" claim. In my opinion (for what its worth), there will be a better chance of them settling a modest and accurate claim, than a highly inflated one. Good luck with this.....if they are at fault you deserve to be totally reimbursed.

Jan 17th, 2005, 07:42 PM	#148 (permalink)
ImaVunDerBrah Slippery When Wet Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Michigan Local Time: 01:15 AM Posts: 2,573 Offline	Congrats on the Works S Glad to hear it all turned out well in the end back in action

Jan 17th, 2005, 08:04 PM	#149 (permalink)
GOGADGET All Worked Up Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Location: Location Local Time: 03:15 PM Posts: 2,784 Offline	Glad to hear it's all worked out for you Tony. GETTING ALL RALLYED UP and a little bit sideways

Jan 18th, 2005, 04:35 PM	#150 (permalink)
Richard Crofts THE STICK Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Worcestershire WR15 Local Time: 06:15 AM Posts: 3,064 Offline	Really sorry to hear, apols for the late commiserations by me. At least you were OK and no other cars were involved. R

Jan 18th, 2005, 05:15 PM	#151 (permalink)
Leccy_Blue MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Essex Local Time: 05:15 AM Posts: 878 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by *Tonyt3** All's well - the insurers coughed up - £17,800...!!!!!!!!!. Now proud owner of a newer, better equiped Cooper S Works.... Sincere thanks to everyone thats helped out and given their best wishes - Thanks Guys and Gals. Regards Tony Well done mate!!!! I only saw this post a few minutes back so thought I would check your sweepstake: http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...0&page=2&pp=15 Just realised I won Whats my prize then?? LB.

Jan 18th, 2005, 06:08 PM	#152 (permalink)
Tonyt3 Track addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hants Local Time: 06:15 AM Posts: 6,258 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Leccy_Blue Well done mate!!!! I only saw this post a few minutes back so thought I would check your sweepstake: http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...0&page=2&pp=15 Just realised I won Whats my prize then?? LB. I did say you won before..... http://www.mini2.com/forum/models-co...ming-soon.html

Jan 19th, 2005, 10:21 AM	#153 (permalink)
Intrepid Gutter Princess Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Planet Hoff Local Time: 05:15 AM Posts: 3,477 Offline	Hey! Congrats - it all Works-ed out in the end eh?! (groan..) http://www.mini2.com/gallery/personal/11588/54205.jpg

Jan 19th, 2005, 12:35 PM	#154 (permalink)
matt21 Now with S power! My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Rugby/Loughborough Local Time: 06:15 AM Posts: 24,224 Offline	congrats on returning back to minidom

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