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View Poll Results: Would you be interested in such a group buy?
Yes - definitely 3 14.29%
Possibly, depending on price 18 85.71%
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Old Jun 5th, 2008, 04:43 PM   #1
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Gauging interest: Suspension and Koni FSDs

Following on from the extremely successful Group Buy Lohen came up with for the Milltek exhausts, I am really pleased to announce that they would be interested in doing another GB, this time for:
  • Eibach springs
  • Eibach coilovers
  • Eibach anti-roll bars
  • Koni FSDs
    Andrey has suggested I add KW suspension to the list as there has been interest for this make

for Gen 1, Gen 2 and the Clubman.

Price will be determined by the level of interest, so please register your interest in the poll.

If you could also post which bit(s) you're interested in, that will make things a bit easier when it comes to getting prices. Thanks!

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Old Jun 5th, 2008, 05:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well I am a possibility depending on price!! I know I can't afford it, but I will probably give in as I have the will power of a thing without any willpower!

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Old Jun 5th, 2008, 05:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Will this be for just eibach branded coilovers?
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Old Jun 5th, 2008, 05:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Sorry, should have made that clear, yes it is. Doh.
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Old Jun 5th, 2008, 05:30 PM   #5 (permalink)
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looking to change mine at some point so would be interested depending on price

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Old Jun 5th, 2008, 05:33 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I could be a possibile..................................been looking at the Eibach coilovers since being in Lohen Nick's car a few weeks back

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depending on price!! il see

damn i told you the other night carolyn this was a never ending thing!
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Old Jun 5th, 2008, 07:28 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I would be interested in coilovers of some description.

only a possibility atm though


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Old Jun 5th, 2008, 07:47 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Depending on price and if i can afford it at the time, the Koni FSD's ill be interested in.
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Old Jun 5th, 2008, 08:11 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I'm a sucker for a bargain Definately interested in Eibach Anti-roll bars depending upon price.

Can anyone confirm these are suitable for a Mini One which doesn't have sports suspension?

Also, can Koni FSD's be used with Eibach lowering springs?
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Quote: Originally Posted by scraggles (original)
I'm a sucker for a bargain Definately interested in Eibach Anti-roll bars depending upon price.

Can anyone confirm these are suitable for a Mini One which doesn't have sports suspension?

Also, can Koni FSD's be used with Eibach lowering springs?

Not sure about the anti-roll bar bit, but yes to Eibachs being used with the FSDs
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Old Jun 5th, 2008, 09:06 PM   #12 (permalink)
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If your doing anti roll bars it would be wise to do the bushes, especially on the front to stop shaking through the steering wheel.


I was interested in K&W Variant 1 or 2 coilovers, would you mind getting a price on them?

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Old Jun 5th, 2008, 09:16 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by scraggles (original)
I'm a sucker for a bargain Definately interested in Eibach Anti-roll bars depending upon price.

Can anyone confirm these are suitable for a Mini One which doesn't have sports suspension?

Also, can Koni FSD's be used with Eibach lowering springs?


From what I've read, 'Leave the roll bars unless your doing serious tuning (210+BHP) or track use'.

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Old Jun 5th, 2008, 10:57 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Hugo (original)
From what I've read, 'Leave the roll bars unless your doing serious tuning (210+BHP) or track use'.

I'd still be interested in at least a rear anti-roll bar. The mini one doesn't have any, unlike a cooper. Even with the 40mm eibach springs, mine wallows like a hippo in a heatwave.


Oh yeah, and for trying to start up another group-buy, I vote Nylo for prime minister
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Old Jun 5th, 2008, 11:00 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by scraggles (original)
I'd still be interested in at least a rear anti-roll bar. The mini one doesn't have any, unlike a cooper. Even with the 40mm eibach springs, mine wallows like a hippo in a heatwave.


Didn't realise would be a good idea. May aswell put in Powerflex bushes while its strips down

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Old Jun 5th, 2008, 11:23 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I am interested in the Eibach coilovers, again depending on price. My Eibach springs are squeaking when I go over bumps etc...wtf ha

Thanks Carolyn

edit - sorry voted in wrong section, meant to place my vote in 'possibly'

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Old Jun 6th, 2008, 07:55 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ade1986 (original)
Will this be for just eibach branded coilovers?

I'm sure if you shout loud enough what you want.... we might consider it.

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Any signs of the Koni FSDs for the Gen2 yet?

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Quote: Originally Posted by Lohen (original)
I'm sure if you will shout loud enough what you want.... we might consider it.

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Old Jun 6th, 2008, 09:12 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by scraggles (original)
I'm a sucker for a bargain Definately interested in Eibach Anti-roll bars depending upon price.

Can anyone confirm these are suitable for a Mini One which doesn't have sports suspension?

Also, can Koni FSD's be used with Eibach lowering springs?

Hi,

They are suitable, but whether they would fit is a more important question. MINI One's without sports suspension don't tend to have the rear anti-roll bar, which means they won't have any brackets or fixings for them. If your car doesn't have one (rear anti-roll bar that is) then you will need to change your rear cross member/beam to the one that has the fixings and get the drop links as well.

Although the rear beams are readily available, they are quite a process to fit & will double the cost of fitting of the rear anti-roll bars. We know because we have had to do it on our MINI One.


Quote: Originally Posted by Hugo (original)
From what I've read, 'Leave the roll bars unless your doing serious tuning (210+BHP) or track use'.

This is a misconception, anti-roll bars can be done on a car with any amount of power & it depends more on how hard you drive (corner) compared to how powerful your car is.

They work by reducing/limiting body roll during cornering, & they do absolutely nothing during straight line driving, here is how it works:

As you go through a corner, the car wants to lean/roll in the opposite direction to where you are going (ie. if you are going left the car will roll right). At this moment the outside damper (opposite side to which you are cornering, so in this case right) will compress and the inside damper (left) will expand/droop.

This causes one damper (the right one) to push down on the anti-roll bar, & the other (left) to pull up on it. The anti-roll bar then twists & tries to resist these forces.

The strength of the anti-roll bar (all other things being equal) depends on its thickness, the thicker it is the more it will resist the roll forces. This will keep the car flatter during cornering..... But whats the benefit????

More stable and predictable handling
Better & more grip during cornering
Ability to carry more speed through a corner
Quicker change of direction (ie. in a chicane)
No decrease in ride quality/comfort in a straight line (dual carriage way/motorway)

All in all a pretty good modification in all areas of driving.

Quote: Originally Posted by Hugo (original)
If your doing anti roll bars it would be wise to do the bushes, especially on the front to stop shaking through the steering wheel.

Not necessarily and somewhat depends on the condition of your current ones & what your long term goals are. The ONLY thing that we tend to make people consider when fitting a set of anti roll bars, is whether they want the front wishbone rear bush. This one:

Lohen.co.uk - Track & Fast Road Performance for your New Mini - Online Shop

If you are thinking about doing these bushes in the near future, then it makes sense to do them at the same time as the front anti-roll bar. They are attached by the same bolts (which are extremely hard to get at & hence the long fitting time) & hence doing them together saves on a lot of labour

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