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Old Dec 2nd, 2007, 09:37 AM   #1
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DIY MINI Seal & Protect

Has anyone paid for the Seal & Protect paint and interior protection system?

My dealer is very adamant that this is worthwhile, but i'm not convinced.

For £299 i reckon there are better ways of protecting the paint work, like a professional valet and paintwork correction from these guys Zymol Professional Car Cleaning Polishing Treatments Prestige Detailing Devon UK maybe?

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Old Dec 2nd, 2007, 06:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I agree...you never know what quality of work will be done by Min and by by going with reputable detailers, you know what to expect.
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Old Dec 2nd, 2007, 08:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Both my mum's and brother's new R56 Coopers came with the Seal and Protect, and we weren't asked if we wanted it.

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Old Dec 2nd, 2007, 09:13 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by airbusA346 (original)
Both my mum's and brother's new R56 Coopers came with the Seal and Protect, and we weren't asked if we wanted it.

That's pretty common, especially on new cars, as most Sales Execs are paid a fixed commission for selling the car (regardless of whether they discount it or not) and then earn more for selling Seal & Protect (or SupaGard or whatever they're calling it this week?).

By including it in the price of the car they earn more money without having to convince the customer to spend more.

As for the original question of the thread, all the Paint & Fabric Protection products available do exactly what they claim to, and are worthwhile if you aren't the type of person that enjoys spending time keeping a car clean, but are they worth £299 (or often much more)? Basically, no.

If you want it on your car then go on eBay and buy a Supagard or Safegard kit and do it yourself and save hundreds.

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Pretty much the responses i was expecting.

Given i'm fairly obsessive about keeping my cars clean and shiny, the £299 is definely best left in my back pocket ... for now anyway!
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Old Dec 3rd, 2007, 12:49 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Just spend the £299 on cleaning products at Halfrauds.

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Old Dec 3rd, 2007, 06:53 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by airbusA346 (original)
Just spend the £299 on cleaning products at Halfrauds.
Tom.

Or just use up the ones i have in "stock" and splash the cash it on something else.
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Old Dec 12th, 2007, 09:07 PM   #8 (permalink)
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You can buy the genuine stuff they use on ebay for about £10, its called BMW Hard Wax. I have used it, it is very good, its more of a chemical sealant and lasts way longer than any wax I have used, usually meguairs or zymol. Recently turned to Klasse, a german sealant, also very good.

Once it is applied, you just need to keep it washed and the sealant keeps the top coat. It feels almost like it has been waxed every time you wash it and bobbles up nice as well.
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Old Dec 13th, 2007, 10:34 AM   #9 (permalink)
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do it yourself for half the price and better products!!

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Old Dec 13th, 2007, 02:18 PM   #10 (permalink)
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If you like keeping your car clean and know what your doing, and there's a wealth of advice avaiable over the internet, then I'd say don't bother with it. And for £299 you could have a top quality detail done, probably even with a level of paint correction (if it's not a new car, which I guess it is, but even then there can be some pre-delivery marks inflicted), something shine and protect won't offer.
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Old Dec 13th, 2007, 03:45 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old Dec 13th, 2007, 05:45 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Over 5 posts now so can post links!

I've used these both these for supplies, can recommend the service -

Elite Car Care (Good for big orders as those with a value over £60 get free delivery)
www.cleanandshiney.co.uk

Hope that helps
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Old Dec 14th, 2007, 09:59 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Cheers Guys.

My car is a used one, from MINI dealer, so there is a distinct possibly that some paint correction could be worthwhile.

I think for now i will save the cash and just keep the car clean (as much as possible in this sh**ty weather), then maybe look for someone/where to give it a proper valet and a bit of paint correction in the new year.

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working on a clubman purchase and Mini Park Lane want £398.99 for seal and protect!

The (very nice) salesman saw my jaw drop and and explained this includes a 3 year warrantee on the paint and interior. i.e. you spill something on the interior and it stains, they'll clean if and remove the stain for free.

Has anyone else heard of this? Has anyone used this warrantee?
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Matt, this is probably Supagard or diamond brite, one of those packages £398 is far too much. The warranty etc is genuine and the suppliers of the product are VERY good at rectification work , which in fairness doesnt happen very often (i work for a main dealer(not MINI) ) but they have loads of movment in those prices too, see all the above comments in this thread, they're all pretty much correct. If you like cleaning cars then dont bother, if you dont like it then bach the dealer for a deal (dont pay more than £200!) . You dont say if its just in & out? our packs at work also give dash protection / window etching and keycare and I'd sell it for £200 if i HAD to and still make a profit.



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Quote: Originally Posted by Streeters (original)
Matt, this is probably Supagard or diamond brite, one of those packages £398 is far too much. The warranty etc is genuine and the suppliers of the product are VERY good at rectification work , which in fairness doesnt happen very often (i work for a main dealer(not MINI) ) but they have loads of movment in those prices too, see all the above comments in this thread, they're all pretty much correct. If you like cleaning cars then dont bother, if you dont like it then bach the dealer for a deal (dont pay more than £200!) . You dont say if its just in & out? our packs at work also give dash protection / window etching and keycare and I'd sell it for £200 if i HAD to and still make a profit.

Many thanks Streeters. I'll be pushing them quite hard. I"m already removing the vipers from the dealer and going with Mini Pirates. I'll haggle on this and the driving lights. I look forward to cleaning her, but rarely have the time
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Didn't want any blank switches on my Clubman and the dealer took the Supaguard/Seal & Protect down to £150 inc.VAT so I could get the Sport Button (which I really wasn't interested in but didn't want blanks anywhere!).

Seems there is indeed a lot of movement on the price - had it on my last MINI though and it came in useful when a 'friend' ate a pasty in the back an left half of it on the seat - big greasy mark removed no problem .

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supaguard on ebay £20 supa guard plastic protection £10 for 4 boxes and 4 hrs of your time makes sense not to buy it from mini i use it on my mini and wifes e90 318 and molly the 67 bug

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Quote: Originally Posted by airbusA346 (original)
Both my mum's and brother's new R56 Coopers came with the Seal and Protect, and we weren't asked if we wanted it.

Tom.

And me, must have bought it from the same dealer. Did they get a little bag with BMW on it with a host of cleaning products inside as well? I noticed it in the order, but left it on thought I would give it a try, but to be honest, I could do the same job myself. DEFENITELY NOT worth the £££, if you have even half a clue you can achieve better results yourself (I consider myself to have half a clue)
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And me, must have bought it from the same dealer.

I doubt it. See post #4 above.

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