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Old Sep 14th, 2002, 06:03 PM
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Exclamation Be Careful of Lifting blocks!!!

Used a floor jack in my driveway today to attempt to lift the front of my "S" to get to the oil drain plug. The lifting block, despite being securely upon the lifting point of the floor jack, rotated out of the vehicle frame causing the car to fall onto the jack. You can see the results below. My side skirt is trashed. Further inspection of the lifting point on the car showed it has a center pin which when pushed in secures it in the frame. This pin was not fully depressed causing the failure.

I was following the first rule of jacking a vehicle (never put anything you value under a vehicle being lifted until it is on secure jackstands and is well chocked) so I was not injured, just surprised and angry. I plan to make this a warranty issue as this part should not rotate out of the frame as it did.

The part that failed is shown in the frame as I was so aggrivated I put it back in its original place after inspection and could not remove it again using my hands alone.

Bottom line...Be Careful! If I had put my head under the car at the point that his had happened my hat size would be significantly reduced.
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Old Sep 14th, 2002, 06:25 PM
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Photo of offending part...

Here's the part that failed. I gave it another try and yanked it out using only my hands. The center pin which was not fully inserted is shown. I'll post a pic of the parts that go into the frame as well.
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Old Sep 14th, 2002, 06:27 PM
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The frame side...

You can see why the pin is important...
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Old Sep 14th, 2002, 06:31 PM
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So sorry

Good luck with the warranty claim. I have tinkered with many cars in my life, restored many a VW and Mopar but this one makes me think twice before I attempt any thing. Doesn't have anything to do with the car itself, just don't want to muck it up, the damn thing looks great just sitting there!

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You are absolutely right about being careful. A friend of mine's father-in-law was killed when a car he was working on at home slipped off the jack and crushed his chest.

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Gromit,
Glad to hear you were not hurt. I have actually worried about this very thing. Here is what I've done to ensure that this doest not happen and may be of use to others.
Cut a small block of hardwood (oak) so that it fits into the lifting block and rests against the holding pin. The wood block extends below the lifting block about 1/8 inch. The wood block then serves as the lifting point for my floor jack.
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Gromit, first off, I'm glad you weren't hurt. And I'm sorry to see the damage to your MINI.

Thanks for letting everyone know about this problem. I hope your warranty claim on this is treated fairly.

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Visually, I don't quite follow here. The METAL lifting block just sits against the unibody, and a pin holds it in place? So the whole damn block just pivoted off, and the car dropped?

When you make your waranty claim, be sure to tell them of the physical danger to yourself. Were you using the factory jack? Emphasize that you are lucky to be standing there even yelling at them. Then demand they repair your car.

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Visually, I don't quite follow here. The METAL lifting block just sits against the unibody, and a pin holds it in place? So the whole damn block just pivoted off, and the car dropped?

When you make your waranty claim, be sure to tell them of the physical danger to yourself. Were you using the factory jack? Emphasize that you are lucky to be standing there even yelling at them. Then demand they repair your car.

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The "lifting block" (not sure what MINI calls it, probably better term is "lifting point") is PLASTIC. Otherwise your first paragraph is exactly as it happened.

I was not using a factory jack, none was supplied with my "S". I was using a common floor jack as found in just about any garage or NASCAR pit. Not as nice as the NASCAR ones though. I am hopeful that having a fit at the dealer will not be necessary, I have been treated fairly by Towne MINI in Buffalo so far and will be surprised if that changes. I am more concerned that as fellow MINI owners begin to change over to winter tires this problem may repeat itself with much more severe consequences.

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Gromit,
Glad to hear you were not hurt. I have actually worried about this very thing. Here is what I've done to ensure that this doest not happen and may be of use to others.
Cut a small block of hardwood (oak) so that it fits into the lifting block and rests against the holding pin. The wood block extends below the lifting block about 1/8 inch. The wood block then serves as the lifting point for my floor jack.

MoMini-

Brilliant solution! I wish I'd thought if it.

I am quite concerned this problem may strike someone else as winter begins and many owners begin to change wheels to a winter combo.

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