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badboyzbadboyz · Dec 17th, 2003, 01:10 PM

I have just been reading about a magnetic oil drain plug which will collect all the metal shavings that come off the engine, mainly during breakin period. Does anybody know if these are worth buying and where you can get them from for the MINI ?

Badboyz

gibbon · Dec 17th, 2003, 02:17 PM

If you find where to get them from, I'll have one too pleeze

obehave · Dec 17th, 2003, 02:30 PM

Not as effective as you'd think. Most of the components in modern engines are alloys. Specifically non ferrous metals. Magnet won't do much, if anything.

badboyzbadboyz · Dec 17th, 2003, 04:10 PM

If I was to change the oil after say 1000 miles would that get rid of the shavings from the engine ?

CHRYSt · Dec 17th, 2003, 09:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by badboyzbadboyz

If I was to change the oil after say 1000 miles would that get rid of the shavings from the engine ?

I think you're just a weee bit paranoid about this. It's not like there are large iron filings floating around your oil. If this was seriously a problem during breakin, wouldn't the service interval be 1,000 miles, then every 12,000 after that?

Right. Just calm down and motor on, and everything will be fine.

cristo · Dec 18th, 2003, 01:09 AM

might do a little bit. i always had one on my 82 rabbit, and at every oil change, there was a
coating of grey (iron) dust stuck to the magnet. probably a drop in the bucket, though, compared
to non-ferrous, silica, dust, dirt, etc. that also find their way suspended into the oil.

obehave · Dec 18th, 2003, 01:39 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by badboyzbadboyz

If I was to change the oil after say 1000 miles would that get rid of the shavings from the engine ?

Right or wrong I changed mine at the end of break in. Again at 2500 miles then 5K. Filter only at 7500. There was a good amount of metallic particles in the oil at first change. No analysis done, just looked at it under a microscope. By 5K it was greatly reduced.
Excessive? Maybe. My choice? You bet.

Root Ginger · Dec 18th, 2003, 09:13 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by obehave

Right or wrong I changed mine at the end of break in. Again at 2500 miles then 5K. Filter only at 7500. There was a good amount of metallic particles in the oil at first change. No analysis done, just looked at it under a microscope. By 5K it was greatly reduced.
Excessive? Maybe. My choice? You bet.

You checked your oil under a microscope?!

Man you must really love your car

badboyzbadboyz · Dec 18th, 2003, 09:54 AM

Yea thanks for the reply's people. I know it sounds pretty paranoid but I don't see what harm changing the oil after about 1500 miles will do and it will almost cost nothing so I might aswell.

swamos · Dec 18th, 2003, 10:25 AM

I concurr with obehave. That is what you have a filter for.

We've had numerous discussions about this before. I suggest doing a search on

I concurr with obehave. That is what you have a filter for.

We've had numerous discussions about this before. I suggest doing a search on oil sample for a start.

I don't think you should go past the thread... anyone waiting 10k?? to start with.

Good luck

obehave · Dec 18th, 2003, 12:33 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ginge

You checked your oil under a microscope?!

Man you must really love your car

Yes.......yes I do

I checked sections of the filter as well

I did this when I used to build engines.

brett · Dec 18th, 2003, 12:36 PM

Doesn't all Minis and modern cars have that. I know when I changed the oil on my Mini Cooper S it had one fitted.

Polmear · Dec 18th, 2003, 12:45 PM

If you would really like a magnetic drain plug, try this when you change the oil:
Take the drain plug, get a 2-3 foot length of insulated wire, wrap the threaded end of the bolt, get some alligator clips, attach the clips to each of the stripped ends of the wire, and hook the other ends of the clips to a small battery; leave for a couple of hours, instant magnetic plug-well not instant, but close. Make sure you dont use a magnetically shielded wire.

swamos · Dec 18th, 2003, 09:41 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Polmear

If you would really like a magnetic drain plug, try this when you change the oil:
Take the drain plug, get a 2-3 foot length of insulated wire, wrap the threaded end of the bolt, get some alligator clips, attach the clips to each of the stripped ends of the wire, and hook the other ends of the clips to a small battery; leave for a couple of hours, instant magnetic plug-well not instant, but close. Make sure you dont use a magnetically shielded wire.

What size battery are you suggesting (please give an example )

Polmear · Dec 18th, 2003, 11:09 PM

I was thinking a 6V flashlight battery.

Dec 17th, 2003, 01:10 PM	#1
badboyzbadboyz MINI2 Jedi Master Join Date: May 2003 Local Time: 05:06 AM Posts: 1,257 Offline	Magnetic Oil Drain Plug ? I have just been reading about a magnetic oil drain plug which will collect all the metal shavings that come off the engine, mainly during breakin period. Does anybody know if these are worth buying and where you can get them from for the MINI ? Badboyz

Dec 17th, 2003, 02:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
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Dec 17th, 2003, 09:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
CHRYSt MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2003 Local Time: 12:06 AM Posts: 80 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by badboyzbadboyz If I was to change the oil after say 1000 miles would that get rid of the shavings from the engine ? I think you're just a weee bit paranoid about this. It's not like there are large iron filings floating around your oil. If this was seriously a problem during breakin, wouldn't the service interval be 1,000 miles, then every 12,000 after that? Right. Just calm down and motor on, and everything will be fine. Took delivery on 10/09/2003. Mmmm.... Dark silver.

Dec 18th, 2003, 09:13 AM	#8 (permalink)
Root Ginger Amiga 500 to PS3 20 Years Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Slough, Berkshire Local Time: 06:06 AM Posts: 4,673 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by obehave Right or wrong I changed mine at the end of break in. Again at 2500 miles then 5K. Filter only at 7500. There was a good amount of metallic particles in the oil at first change. No analysis done, just looked at it under a microscope. By 5K it was greatly reduced. Excessive? Maybe. My choice? You bet. You checked your oil under a microscope?! Man you must really love your car It was acceptable in the 80's

Dec 18th, 2003, 10:25 AM	#10 (permalink)
swamos MINI Traitor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 03:06 PM Posts: 5,542 Offline	We've been down that road before. I concurr with obehave. That is what you have a filter for. We've had numerous discussions about this before. I suggest doing a search on I concurr with obehave. That is what you have a filter for. We've had numerous discussions about this before. I suggest doing a search on oil sample for a start. I don't think you should go past the thread... anyone waiting 10k?? to start with. Good luck Clubman less....

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Dec 17th, 2003, 02:30 PM	#3 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 01:06 AM Posts: 9,388 Offline	Not as effective as you'd think. Most of the components in modern engines are alloys. Specifically non ferrous metals. Magnet won't do much, if anything.

Dec 17th, 2003, 04:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
badboyzbadboyz MINI2 Jedi Master Join Date: May 2003 Local Time: 05:06 AM Posts: 1,257 Offline	If I was to change the oil after say 1000 miles would that get rid of the shavings from the engine ?

Dec 18th, 2003, 01:09 AM	#6 (permalink)
cristo BLIKSEM (my brg/brg mc) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: york, pennsylvania Local Time: 01:06 AM Posts: 2,202 Offline	might do a little bit. i always had one on my 82 rabbit, and at every oil change, there was a coating of grey (iron) dust stuck to the magnet. probably a drop in the bucket, though, compared to non-ferrous, silica, dust, dirt, etc. that also find their way suspended into the oil.

Dec 18th, 2003, 01:39 AM	#7 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 01:06 AM Posts: 9,388 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by badboyzbadboyz If I was to change the oil after say 1000 miles would that get rid of the shavings from the engine ? Right or wrong I changed mine at the end of break in. Again at 2500 miles then 5K. Filter only at 7500. There was a good amount of metallic particles in the oil at first change. No analysis done, just looked at it under a microscope. By 5K it was greatly reduced. Excessive? Maybe. My choice? You bet.

Dec 18th, 2003, 09:54 AM	#9 (permalink)
badboyzbadboyz MINI2 Jedi Master Join Date: May 2003 Local Time: 05:06 AM Posts: 1,257 Offline	Yea thanks for the reply's people. I know it sounds pretty paranoid but I don't see what harm changing the oil after about 1500 miles will do and it will almost cost nothing so I might aswell.

Dec 18th, 2003, 12:33 PM	#11 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 01:06 AM Posts: 9,388 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Ginge You checked your oil under a microscope?! Man you must really love your car Yes.......yes I do I checked sections of the filter as well I did this when I used to build engines.

Dec 18th, 2003, 12:36 PM	#12 (permalink)
brett 1st MINI Owner in QLD !!! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St George Local Time: 03:06 PM Posts: 2,410 Offline	Doesn't all Minis and modern cars have that. I know when I changed the oil on my Mini Cooper S it had one fitted. 1968 Mk1 Morris Cooper S 1310cc Downton Lake Green - White 1974 Leyland Mini 1098c Country Cream 2008 MINI Cooper S Chilli Pepper White - Black Roof

Dec 18th, 2003, 12:45 PM	#13 (permalink)
Polmear MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2003 Location: Michigan Local Time: 01:06 AM Posts: 276 Offline	If you would really like a magnetic drain plug, try this when you change the oil: Take the drain plug, get a 2-3 foot length of insulated wire, wrap the threaded end of the bolt, get some alligator clips, attach the clips to each of the stripped ends of the wire, and hook the other ends of the clips to a small battery; leave for a couple of hours, instant magnetic plug-well not instant, but close. Make sure you dont use a magnetically shielded wire.

Dec 18th, 2003, 09:41 PM	#14 (permalink)
swamos MINI Traitor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 03:06 PM Posts: 5,542 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Polmear If you would really like a magnetic drain plug, try this when you change the oil: Take the drain plug, get a 2-3 foot length of insulated wire, wrap the threaded end of the bolt, get some alligator clips, attach the clips to each of the stripped ends of the wire, and hook the other ends of the clips to a small battery; leave for a couple of hours, instant magnetic plug-well not instant, but close. Make sure you dont use a magnetically shielded wire. What size battery are you suggesting (please give an example ) Clubman less....

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Polmear MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2003 Location: Michigan Local Time: 01:06 AM Posts: 276 Offline	I was thinking a 6V flashlight battery.

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