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Old Mar 12th, 2004, 04:59 PM   #1
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Wheel wax early report.

I'm currently experimenting with different wheel wax's to see what can help
the dreaded brake dust. So far I have been using a non specialist wash and
wax, Simoniz Max Wax, and a specialist wax Turtle Wax Extreme wheel
wax. Using the front wheels as they are the worst effected by brake dust
I've been leaving one half of the wheel untreated and the other half treated.
The tyre valve provides a reference point so it's always the same half treated.
First I gave both wheels a thorough clean with Wonder Wheels and since
then have been cleaning with water only to try and exaggerate any differences.
After a month I can report the following. I can see no difference in the treated
half using the Simoniz nor does it appear to be easier to clean. The half
treated with Turtle Wax is also no easier to clean and looks no cleaner in
fact the only difference I can perceive is that the water after cleaning beads
slightly. Now one month is far to short to be conclusive but I'm about to drop
the Simoniz as I only have 2 front wheels (hey that beats a Reliant Robin)
and am about to try a very expensive product called HyperTurismo's wheel
wax. It was £25 a pot but I've found a source at £20 so it's a veritable bargain.
So watch this space for a medium term report coming out in ....... errr .....
the medium term.
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Old Mar 13th, 2004, 07:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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good report,I am about to order some stuff called Wheelwax,its about £19 in UK and about $15 in US,claims on the web site to reverse polarity !.......we are all such mugs for these claims,the beauty industry the world over ,be it cars or personal products, gets fatter on our credulity........I hope to get some next month and will let you know what I find ,keep us posted with your experiment
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Old Mar 13th, 2004, 08:02 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by SteveM3
I'm currently experimenting with different wheel wax's to see what can help
the dreaded brake dust. So far I have been using a non specialist wash and
wax, Simoniz Max Wax, and a specialist wax Turtle Wax Extreme wheel
wax. Using the front wheels as they are the worst effected by brake dust
I've been leaving one half of the wheel untreated and the other half treated.
The tyre valve provides a reference point so it's always the same half treated.
First I gave both wheels a thorough clean with Wonder Wheels and since
then have been cleaning with water only to try and exaggerate any differences.
After a month I can report the following. I can see no difference in the treated
half using the Simoniz nor does it appear to be easier to clean. The half
treated with Turtle Wax is also no easier to clean and looks no cleaner in
fact the only difference I can perceive is that the water after cleaning beads
slightly. Now one month is far to short to be conclusive but I'm about to drop
the Simoniz as I only have 2 front wheels (hey that beats a Reliant Robin)
and am about to try a very expensive product called HyperTurismo's wheel
wax. It was £25 a pot but I've found a source at £20 so it's a veritable bargain.
So watch this space for a medium term report coming out in ....... errr .....
the medium term.

Seems you are experiencing what I have always thought. That a wax just isn't strong enough to stop hot brake dust sticking to you wheels. Can't wait for the mid term report. I'm sure there will be a product eventually that makes some difference but what that will be I do not know. Actually I do, those electromagentic brake systems that have no pads and no contact parts. I think Mercedes are currently developing them. look really cool. never need servicing, never wear out and don't produce any brake dust!

It was acceptable in the 80's
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Old Mar 15th, 2004, 02:44 AM   #4 (permalink)
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i've been using the new rainX ultra wax and fast wax for about 6 months. although the stock brake dust still accumulates on the wheels, it seems to come off much easier with water or by wiping with a damp rag.

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Old Mar 15th, 2004, 12:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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last year I used Autoglym super resin polish with so-so results.
this past winter I used the same followed by a coat of Autoglym
extra gloss, and it worked very well. Dust still accumulates, but
it rinses/wipes off so much easier than before.

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Old Mar 15th, 2004, 02:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I just gave mine a wipe over with Zaino on Sat,I'll be washing again next weekend so will let you know if there was any difference
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Old Mar 15th, 2004, 03:34 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Sure I read somewhere recently that Autoglym had a wheel wax coming out.
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Old Mar 16th, 2004, 02:09 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I used the RainX wheel protectant for about a week and 600 miles on a brand new MCS. I was able to wipe the rear wheels clean with a dry rag and very little effort. Still had to use cleaner on the front.

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Old Mar 20th, 2004, 10:27 PM   #9 (permalink)
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The heat will render products pretty much useless on wheels. The front has most of the braking and therefore gets hotter than the rear,hence the rear is easier to clean. Get wheels that don't have a bunch of little holes and crevasses.
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Quote: Originally Posted by SteveM3
I'm currently experimenting with different wheel wax's to see what can help
the dreaded brake dust. So far I have been using a non specialist wash and
wax, Simoniz Max Wax, and a specialist wax Turtle Wax Extreme wheel
wax. Using the front wheels as they are the worst effected by brake dust
I've been leaving one half of the wheel untreated and the other half treated.
The tyre valve provides a reference point so it's always the same half treated.
First I gave both wheels a thorough clean with Wonder Wheels and since
then have been cleaning with water only to try and exaggerate any differences.
After a month I can report the following. I can see no difference in the treated
half using the Simoniz nor does it appear to be easier to clean. The half
treated with Turtle Wax is also no easier to clean and looks no cleaner in
fact the only difference I can perceive is that the water after cleaning beads
slightly. Now one month is far to short to be conclusive but I'm about to drop
the Simoniz as I only have 2 front wheels (hey that beats a Reliant Robin)
and am about to try a very expensive product called HyperTurismo's wheel
wax. It was £25 a pot but I've found a source at £20 so it's a veritable bargain.
So watch this space for a medium term report coming out in ....... errr .....
the medium term.

Thanks for the report, I am interested in hearing your future findings
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Old Mar 23rd, 2004, 12:15 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Another week with the RainX protectant. About 900 miles this time. The fronts were hopelessly dirty. I cleaned one of the rears with a soft dry cloth alone, but it took a bit of work, so I used cleaner on the other one. For me, at least, it looks like RainX is good for maybe 750 miles on the rears. I am not sure if there is any level of driving to make it useful on the fronts.

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Old Mar 23rd, 2004, 01:43 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by whovous
Another week with the RainX protectant.....

rain X makes an older product for protecting wheels. i'm using the newer Ultra and Fast waxes with good results. their slipperiness lasts me 4 to 6 weeks.
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Old Mar 24th, 2004, 02:17 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Are these newer products from RainX? Mine is just called "Wheel Protectant" but below that it says "ultimate" protection and above that it says "New" while the copyright is 2003. It comes in a blue bottle. Where did you find your stuff? Do I correctly understand it to be a wheel specific product?

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Quote: Originally Posted by whovous
Are these newer products from RainX? Mine is just called "Wheel Protectant" but below that it says "ultimate" protection and above that it says "New" while the copyright is 2003. It comes in a blue bottle. Where did you find your stuff? Do I correctly understand it to be a wheel specific product?

i think the ultra and fast polymer waxes have been out a little over a year. they are not wheel specific. i thought that the wheel protectant was older than these, but i'm not an expert on rain x history. i started using the fast wax because it can be applied right after washing the wheels without drying them. it was a pain to try to dry them thoroughly and apply something like zaino.

the ultra and fast waxes are mass marketed/advertised on tv in the u.s. i get mine at wal mart.

when i run out of them, i may try the new mequire's NXT on my wheels. but i won't switch from zaino on the body.
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I've used Meguiar's waxes for some time now, in large part because I could never find Zaino. I just bought some NXT for the body, so maybe I should try that on the wheels next. These white wheels REALLY show the dust.

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Old Mar 26th, 2004, 01:23 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I have been using a product called "rejex" since last summer. It has worked very well especially on my MCS wheels. It is a polymer product like Zaino which makes it better than Wax for protecting wheels. As mentioned above the heat produced from the brakes will destroy the wax coating. Polymers are more able to withstand the heat. Cleaning the wheels is now a breeze, no scurbbing whatso ever. The only downside is that you have to apply rejex in the shade and let it sit for 12 hours before driving the car (this allows the monomers to cross link to produce a strong protectant barrier).

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Quote: Originally Posted by napster
I have been using a product called "rejex" since last summer. It has worked very well especially on my MCS wheels. It is a polymer product like Zaino which makes it better than Wax for protecting wheels. As mentioned above the heat produced from the brakes will destroy the wax coating. Polymers are more able to withstand the heat. Cleaning the wheels is now a breeze, no scurbbing whatso ever. The only downside is that you have to apply rejex in the shade and let it sit for 12 hours before driving the car (this allows the monomers to cross link to roduce a strong protectant barrier).

Where is this product available? Thanks
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Old Mar 26th, 2004, 06:03 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by bryfliesme
Where is this product available? Thanks

appears its a USA only product..... shame, it looks really good.
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Old Mar 26th, 2004, 06:45 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Go to the web page below and click on the rejex icon.

They might ship to the UK.

http://www.corrosionx.com
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Quote: Originally Posted by napster
Go to the web page below and click on the rejex icon.

They might ship to the UK.

http://www.corrosionx.com

I hope they will

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