[Spotty Dog]

I'm interested in your thoughts? Would you buy one & why? It's going to have more functionality that the current 3 door, but it's a very limited estate. The handling will not be anything like the current Mini. Do you think it'll need a larger power unit? Should it have themes? i.e. Surfer, Countryman, etc.

[Carlos.]

Quote: Originally Posted by Spotty Dog

The handling will not be anything like the current Mini.

How d'ya know that? Lots of bigger cars handle just as well as the MINI.

[Spotty Dog]

Quote: Originally Posted by Carlos.

How d'ya know that? Lots of bigger cars handle just as well as the MINI.

The wheelbase will be longer and the leading edge of the Traveller will be over the rear wheels, no more 'wheel-on-each-corner' concept.

[Carlos.]

Doesn't mean it wont handle as well........

[Spotty Dog]

Quote: Originally Posted by Carlos.

Doesn't mean it wont handle as well........

I'm not convinced it will Carlos, with weight over the rear of the car, it's going to want to throw some energy on to it. I've never found any car to handle as well as AWOEC (A Wheel On Each Corner) concept.

[simeds]

i thought i might get one for mrs meds


if the dealer takes wives in part exchange

[Sejanus]

I'm very interested in one as a replacement for our dog hauler station wagon when it goes, even though it would obviously be smaller. The question for my household is will it be able to carry two people and three german shepherds

[ScienceGuy]

Experiment trumps theory every day of the week.

Anyone have anything other than GUESSES about the hanhdling?

[Goonery]

In fact the overhangs are quite small, the WAEC principle applies to shopping trolleys in reality. The principles of good handling are weight distribution , steering and suspension set ups. So near perfect or 50/50 weight distribution over or between the axles would be a major factor in how the car performs. The overhangs only come into play if the weight is excessivly biased before the front or behind the rear axle centres.

This post is not in anyway related to the BMW Mantra of 50/50 weight distribution, it is just a fact of good automotive design

Quote: Originally Posted by goonery

In fact the overhangs are quite small, the WAEC principle applies to shopping trolleys in reality. The principles of good handling are weight distribution , steering and suspension set ups. So near perfect or 50/50 weight distribution over or between the axles would be a major factor in how the car performs. The overhangs only come into play if the weight is excessivly biased before the front or behind the rear axle centres.

This post is not in anyway related to the BMW Mantra of 50/50 weight distribution, it is just a fact of good automotive design

One of the best handling cars I have owned was a Lotus Esprit V8 - big overhang at the front (due to the wedge shape), less so but some at the rear. Also bear in mind a standard 911 - there is a lot of weight over the rear axle - some how Porsche engineers still manage to get a pretty decent handling machine!

[Goonery]

Quote: Originally Posted by virage1

Also bear in mind a standard 911 - there is a lot of weight over the rear axle - some how Porsche engineers still manage to get a pretty decent handling machine!

But thats down to electronic intervention, turn it off and the pendulum effect comes back and bites you

[wibbly]

Theoretically stuff the handling....

If its got 5 seats its on my list

Quote: Originally Posted by goonery

But thats down to electronic intervention, turn it off and the pendulum effect comes back and bites you

Racing a GT3 (which is still 2WD) with no traction control doesn't have too much intervention - but yes I agree normally there is.

[Mini1380]

It is currently on my short shopping list. That doesn't mean that I am going to buy it.

I already own a 1960 Traveller that I am trying to get running, so it should match it well.

[Rakey]

is the question would I buy one, or is it on my shopping list?

Yes I would buy it, is it on my list, not at the moment

[Apial]

Quote: Originally Posted by Spotty Dog

I'm not convinced it will Carlos, with weight over the rear of the car, it's going to want to throw some energy on to it. I've never found any car to handle as well as AWOEC (A Wheel On Each Corner) concept.

AWOEC. I think I hve the exception that prooves your rule then, a Mitsubishi Shogun Pinin. It has a wheel at each corner, and even one hanging off the rear door, but the road handling is worse than a cow on rollerskates, however off road it does handle better than a cow on rollerskates at least.....

[HVY WGHT]

I think as a second MINI it would be great- a little bigger with a little more rear room and a little more cargo space with the back seats up. After seeing the concept in person- it is really not that much larger, just a little longer. It seems more family oriented, but to that it'll be a MINI so it'll probably handle like crazy and have good driving characteristics. Just imagine a larger commuter MINI and a second regular 3 door Cooper S for the ultimate performance days!

[minigolf]

I'd definitely consider one if in the market for a new car. As HVY WGHT suggests, as a second MINI it could be ideal.

[Oz-i]

Yes, it is definitely on the "to-consider-list" when available. I would like to have some more space in the back for my 2 JRT's. Hard to say whether I would buy it at the moment as we have only seen the concepts. Don't fancy the current themes ... ... bit OTT, but that is probably why these are concepts.

Re the handling, from that some perspective you could wonder whether you would buy the next generation at all. So far we have only been looking on the outside, how does the car really handle.

[zietto63]

yes , the new TRAVELLER will be our further family car : We wait this new MINI for to change our family car !