Mini2.com Forum Header Mini2.com Forum Header
» Premium
» Wheel & Tire Center

» Sponsors
» Sponsors
Go Back   MINI2 - MINI Forum > Model Specific MINI Forums > MINI Clubman

MINI Clubman MINI Clubman 2007 - Present

Please Visit our Site Sponsors

MINI2.com is the largest MINI Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Apr 6th, 2007, 01:51 PM
memphisto's Avatar
memphisto
Offline
MINI2 Regular
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Bucks
Posts: 161
Local Time: 10:12 PM
England Male
Mini confirm Clubman 'suicide' rear door layout

As suggested in other threads. Mini have now confirmed that the 'suicide' rear door will be on the WRONG side for right hand drive models.

Auto Express article MINI | Auto Express News | News | Auto Express
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

  #2 (permalink)  
Old Apr 6th, 2007, 02:06 PM
ALD0's Avatar
ALD0
Has met Quack Quack Jack
Offline
MINI2 Master
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Chester
Posts: 9,514
Local Time: 10:12 PM
Send a message via MSN to ALD0 Send a message via Skype™ to ALD0
United Kingdom Male View ALD0's Hyper Blue & Black 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile
Bad move imho

www.totalmini.com
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Apr 6th, 2007, 02:16 PM
Paul's Avatar
Paul
MINI2 Privilege Member
Has met Quack Quack Jack
Offline
Trained Monkey
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Big grey box
Posts: 43,186
Local Time: 10:12 PM
England Male
Well spotted: MINI Confirm Clubman Door Configuration



It's been coming, surprised the confirmed this so early, was something I was going to put to them (again) at the Diesel and One launch next week.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Apr 6th, 2007, 02:21 PM
s_and_m's Avatar
s_and_m
Offline
220 of your finest horses
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 6800 rpm
Posts: 3,009
Local Time: 11:12 PM
Send a message via MSN to s_and_m
England Male View s_and_m's Liquid Yellow & Black 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile
This just plain silly

The ONLY reason I would order a Clubman would be so that I'd have easier access to the rear seat for the loading and unloading of children. No way would I want to do that roadside, and it's not always practical (or indeed possible) to face the oncoming traffic flow.

Hmmm, seems I may have to look elsewhere for a family car.

S

Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Apr 6th, 2007, 02:23 PM
CooperS4us's Avatar
CooperS4us
Offline
MINI2 Master
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: South Florida
Posts: 947
Local Time: 06:12 PM
United States
That is ridiculous! MINI really wants to save every penny they can make on the second gen MINI and I am not sure if that greedy desire is going to benefit the customer in the long run.

I still think it is a bad move not to have 2 rear doors in the back. Watch complaints arise from this poor management move. Either sales will suffer in RHD countries or MINI will have to eat their words and absorb the cost of installing the door on the left side of the vehicle.

MINI, people will gladly pay for a Clubman with 2 doors in the back. Re-think this move it is pretty stupid!.

'02 Cooper CVT PW/B Leatherette, MFSW, 15" 8-spokes

'05 MCS CR/W Union Jack, Chrome exterior pack, Convenience Pack, H/K, Front & Rear fogs, MFSW, MINI iPod adaptor, Leatherette, Antharcite, 16" V-Spokes, ASC+T, OBC, Manual Aircon, Halogens
Reply With Quote
Thanks for this post from:
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Apr 6th, 2007, 02:29 PM
Paul's Avatar
Paul
MINI2 Privilege Member
Has met Quack Quack Jack
Offline
Trained Monkey
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Big grey box
Posts: 43,186
Local Time: 10:12 PM
England Male
Quote: Originally Posted by s_and_m (original)
The ONLY reason I would order a Clubman would be so that I'd have easier access to the rear seat for the loading and unloading of children. No way would I want to do that roadside, and it's not always practical (or indeed possible) to face the oncoming traffic flow.

Hmmm, seems I may have to look elsewhere for a family car.

S

I agree.

The Clubman was something we were considering, but as soon as it became all but confirmed this was going to be the case we crossed it off the list.

I wonder how many of those who were awaiting confirmation will look elsewhere now for certain.

For some though, I'm sure it wont be a big deal. I think this will be a big hit in terms of "mobile advertising", for electrical firms, estate agents and the like.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Apr 6th, 2007, 03:21 PM
MINImeat's Avatar
MINImeat
Offline
MINI2 Master
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Memphis, Tennessee, USA
Posts: 1,030
Local Time: 04:12 PM
United States View MINImeat's Solid Black & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile
There have been cases where auto companies have made this decision before (U.S. Saturn coupe with one suicide door and American Motors Pacer with larger door), but neither of these configurations lasted as they were mostly regarded as gimmicks instead of the useful features they started out to be before the concept was compromised.
I believe the RX8, on the other hand, has been well received with its double suicide doors turning it into a much more useful configuration than the normal 2-door coupe.
Saving money at the expense of market share is not a smart move....

MINImeat
B/W MCS
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Apr 6th, 2007, 06:21 PM
Shaun's Avatar
Shaun
Offline
Mr Big Stuff
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Oldham
Posts: 3,460
Local Time: 10:12 PM
United Kingdom Male View Shaun's Pepper White & Black 2nd Gen MINI Cooper Clubman Profile
Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original)
I agree.

The Clubman was something we were considering, but as soon as it became all but confirmed this was going to be the case we crossed it off the list.

I wonder how many of those who were awaiting confirmation will look elsewhere now for certain.

For some though, I'm sure it wont be a big deal. I think this will be a big hit in terms of "mobile advertising", for electrical firms, estate agents and the like.

I will have to third that as its already been seconded think I would prefer it if they did away with the door altogether
As stated elsewere it is a bit of a gimmick.
Will be one hell of a wrench to get me out of a Mini though its all I have had for the last 14years
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Apr 6th, 2007, 06:24 PM
Step_7's Avatar
Step_7
Has met Quack Quack Jack
Offline
Whining....
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Antrim, Northern Ire
Posts: 1,900
Local Time: 10:12 PM
Northern Ireland Male View Step_7's Dark Silver & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile
I've been thinking about this, as a Cooper D Clubman is very high on my "List" for replacing my current Cooper and I tried to think of the last time I parked at the side of the road rather than a Car park. You know what - I can't even think of a time in the last 3 months that I did it.

I agree that MINI do seem to be "penny-pinching" which is a very annoying trend but for my personal circumstances it probably won't make any difference to my next car choice.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Apr 6th, 2007, 06:39 PM
morrisminiminor
Offline
MINI2 Senior
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Bonnie Scotland.
Posts: 377
Local Time: 10:12 PM
Scotland View morrisminiminor's Liquid Yellow & Body Color 1st Gen MINI One Profile
Oh dear! I was looking at the Clubman too but no more. Now we know why the rear door is called a suicide door. BMW/MINI are suicidal in their contempt for RH drive users.

morrisminiminor
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Apr 6th, 2007, 07:21 PM
Tigger, Eeyore & Roo's Avatar
MINI2 Master
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 4,679
Local Time: 10:12 PM
United Kingdom View Tigger, Eeyore & Roo's Hyper Blue & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile
Quote: Originally Posted by memphisto (original)
As suggested in other threads. Mini have now confirmed that the 'suicide' rear door will be on the WRONG side for right hand drive models.

Auto Express article MINI | Auto Express News | News | Auto Express

Thank you (Post number 2 - http://www.mini2.com/forum/future-va...-spyshots.html)

The accountants really must be in charge of the project now

The media in the UK will show no mercy over this gaff Can you imagine the fun that they will have with this on Top Gear?

I suspect that a door will quietly appear on the "correct" side after a year or so into production as "ongoing product development". BEWARE THE POTENTIAL RESALE VALUE DISASTER FOR CARS BUILT BEFORE THAT LIKELY CORRECTION!

What other manufacturer would think they might get away with this on a premium product? I definitely agree with what morrisminiminor said "BMW/MINI are suicidal in their contempt for RH drive users".

Tigger.

Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Apr 6th, 2007, 09:48 PM
KenL's Avatar
KenL
Online
MINI2 Master
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 5,256
Local Time: 10:12 PM
Scotland View KenL's Chili Red & Black 2nd Gen MINI Cooper Profile
If this was written on 1 April, I would have thought it was an April Fool's wind up

Absolutley ridiculous decision by MINI. The main reason people would consider this ugly version of a MINI (my opinion, no offence intended) would be to get people in an out of the back more easily. I can't see any parent wanting to lift their baby out into traffic.

Astro Black Cooper S. CHILLI, chrome line interior and exterior, piano black trim, PDC, MFSW, tinted rear glass.
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Apr 6th, 2007, 10:32 PM
Shaun's Avatar
Shaun
Offline
Mr Big Stuff
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Oldham
Posts: 3,460
Local Time: 10:12 PM
United Kingdom Male View Shaun's Pepper White & Black 2nd Gen MINI Cooper Clubman Profile
Quote: Originally Posted by Step_7 (original)
I've been thinking about this, as a Cooper D Clubman is very high on my "List" for replacing my current Cooper and I tried to think of the last time I parked at the side of the road rather than a Car park. You know what - I can't even think of a time in the last 3 months that I did it.

I agree that MINI do seem to be "penny-pinching" which is a very annoying trend but for my personal circumstances it probably won't make any difference to my next car choice.

Its a good point I guess I dont really park on the road either but I do often give a car full of lads a lift home and the prospect of not having to mess about with my seat to get them in and out was on my mind. I have to pull myself under the dash to allow the drivers side rear passenger to get his feet from under my seat this is an improvemnet but a sorely compromised one at that.
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Apr 6th, 2007, 10:57 PM
Joogle's Avatar
Joogle
Offline
MINI2 Master
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Midlands
Posts: 938
Local Time: 10:12 PM
United Kingdom Male View Joogle's Thunder Blue & Silver 1st Gen MINI Cooper S JCW GP Profile
Can see someone being out of a job at MINI in 12 months time.......

That has got to go down as one of the worst decisions in motoring history!!

I thought the home Market for the MINI was the UK?!

Its a very difficult job and the only way to get through it is we all work together as a team.....
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old Apr 6th, 2007, 11:00 PM
Shaun's Avatar
Shaun
Offline
Mr Big Stuff
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Oldham
Posts: 3,460
Local Time: 10:12 PM
United Kingdom Male View Shaun's Pepper White & Black 2nd Gen MINI Cooper Clubman Profile
I tell you what I can see.... Endless pictures of the AMC Pacer with lines like this is not the first time its been done etc etc etc.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags: , , , , ,



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Clubman door 'fiasco' Tonyt3 MINI Clubman 42 Oct 8th, 2007 07:02 PM
MINI confirm next model will be a Sports Activity Vehicle Paul General Discussion 10 Oct 7th, 2007 11:54 AM
MINI admits Clubman door flaw Paul MINI Clubman 36 Aug 26th, 2007 07:23 PM
First Roadtrip = bug suicide! GoMiniGo First Generation MINI Cooper S 1 Sep 10th, 2002 12:27 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT. The time now is 10:12 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0