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Paul · Sep 18th, 2007, 12:56 PM

We didn't go over the one sided suicide door in our own, <a href="http://www.mini2.com/2007/09/07/mini2-exclusive-full-mini-test-drive-report-from-madrid/">exclusive review</a> of the MINI Clubman rec...Read full report

Tigger, Eeyore & Roo · Sep 18th, 2007, 04:41 PM

It's not surpirising that the press have concentrated on this aspect, the press generally love to print bad news as it sells papers.

If anyone feels that the press are giving it a hard time, just wait to see what MINI's competitors make of it. I can imagine the emails about this potential weakness being sent to alterative dealer's sales staff as we speak.

I am not so sure that calling it a"tiresome" debate is fair, it's just that it's now reaching areas of the public that were previously largely unaware of the Clubman, let alone its most controversial aspect.

Paul · Sep 18th, 2007, 04:46 PM

I think for us/me it can be tiresome because it just goes around in circles and either you take the glass half full, or glass half empty view. There's nothing much really to be said.

I am honestly surprised how lightly BMW seem to have gotten off though.

swamos · Sep 18th, 2007, 05:42 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original)

I think for us/me it can be tiresome because it just goes around in circles and either you take the glass half full, or glass half empty view. There's nothing much really to be said.

I am honestly surprised how lightly BMW seem to have gotten off though.

I don't think they are ever going to truly know how many sales it has cost them until they put another door on the left side for RHD markets. Whether it was a deciding factor in peoples purchase decision is a bit hard to quantify.

murattaner · Sep 22nd, 2007, 08:26 PM

Speaking of "dangerous", how come no one has raised any safety issues regarding the seatbelt being door-mounted?

Tigger, Eeyore & Roo · Sep 23rd, 2007, 06:34 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by murattaner (original)

Speaking of "dangerous", how come no one has raised any safety issues regarding the seatbelt being door-mounted?

Check out the seat mounted belts in BMW pillarless coupes and convertibles (and even in the Clubman concept car) and ask yourself why, even at the premium price the Clubman is sold at, they had to compromise on this vital detail

Paul · Sep 23rd, 2007, 08:59 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by murattaner (original)

Speaking of "dangerous", how come no one has raised any safety issues regarding the seatbelt being door-mounted?

It has been mentioned, numerous times on here in the past.

murattaner · Sep 25th, 2007, 11:36 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original)

It has been mentioned, numerous times on here in the past.

Sorry, I must have missed that. I thought I have read everything about the Clubman.

Paul · Sep 25th, 2007, 12:51 PM

It was a long time ago to be fair. It was one of the first thing some "insiders" passed on to us in terms of "problems" when using the car.

Sep 18th, 2007, 12:56 PM	#1
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 08:15 PM Posts: 41,274 Offline	Irish Independent, Telegraph and others focus on "dangerous" Club Door We didn't go over the one sided suicide door in our own, <a href="http://www.mini2.com/2007/09/07/mini2-exclusive-full-mini-test-drive-report-from-madrid/">exclusive review</a> of the MINI Clubman rec...Read full report

Sep 18th, 2007, 04:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tigger, Eeyore & Roo I'm Back! My Classifieds Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kernow, near England Local Time: 08:15 PM Posts: 4,637 Offline	It's not surpirising that the press have concentrated on this aspect, the press generally love to print bad news as it sells papers. If anyone feels that the press are giving it a hard time, just wait to see what MINI's competitors make of it. I can imagine the emails about this potential weakness being sent to alterative dealer's sales staff as we speak. I am not so sure that calling it a"tiresome" debate is fair, it's just that it's now reaching areas of the public that were previously largely unaware of the Clubman, let alone its most controversial aspect. Unintimated and I'm back!! For sunshine, fun and Cornish Pasties: New MINI Kernow Cornish Oggy Run 2009!

Sep 18th, 2007, 04:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 08:15 PM Posts: 41,274 Offline	I think for us/me it can be tiresome because it just goes around in circles and either you take the glass half full, or glass half empty view. There's nothing much really to be said. I am honestly surprised how lightly BMW seem to have gotten off though. There aint no party like my nana's tea party

Sep 23rd, 2007, 06:34 AM	#6 (permalink)
Tigger, Eeyore & Roo I'm Back! My Classifieds Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kernow, near England Local Time: 08:15 PM Posts: 4,637 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by murattaner (original) Speaking of "dangerous", how come no one has raised any safety issues regarding the seatbelt being door-mounted? Check out the seat mounted belts in BMW pillarless coupes and convertibles (and even in the Clubman concept car) and ask yourself why, even at the premium price the Clubman is sold at, they had to compromise on this vital detail Unintimated and I'm back!! For sunshine, fun and Cornish Pasties: New MINI Kernow Cornish Oggy Run 2009!

Sep 23rd, 2007, 08:59 AM	#7 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 08:15 PM Posts: 41,274 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by murattaner (original) Speaking of "dangerous", how come no one has raised any safety issues regarding the seatbelt being door-mounted? It has been mentioned, numerous times on here in the past. There aint no party like my nana's tea party

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Sep 18th, 2007, 05:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
swamos MINI Traitor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 05:15 AM Posts: 5,548 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original) I think for us/me it can be tiresome because it just goes around in circles and either you take the glass half full, or glass half empty view. There's nothing much really to be said. I am honestly surprised how lightly BMW seem to have gotten off though. I don't think they are ever going to truly know how many sales it has cost them until they put another door on the left side for RHD markets. Whether it was a deciding factor in peoples purchase decision is a bit hard to quantify.

Sep 22nd, 2007, 08:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
murattaner MINI2 but no MINI yet Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Istanbul Local Time: 10:15 PM Posts: 38 Offline	Speaking of "dangerous", how come no one has raised any safety issues regarding the seatbelt being door-mounted?

Sep 25th, 2007, 11:36 AM	#8 (permalink)
murattaner MINI2 but no MINI yet Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Istanbul Local Time: 10:15 PM Posts: 38 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original) It has been mentioned, numerous times on here in the past. Sorry, I must have missed that. I thought I have read everything about the Clubman.

Sep 25th, 2007, 12:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 08:15 PM Posts: 41,274 Offline	It was a long time ago to be fair. It was one of the first thing some "insiders" passed on to us in terms of "problems" when using the car. There aint no party like my nana's tea party

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