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118 · Oct 7th, 2007, 06:54 PM

had a fantastic day yesterday, and it was great to meet up with some old faces, plus some new ones too

was great getting the opportunity to chat to Dirk and the marketing team too

KillerByte · Oct 7th, 2007, 08:51 PM

Here are some photos from the day.

MINI Clubman Preview Event - 06/10/2007

I've got to say, I do like Hot Chocolate.

Hyper Active · Oct 7th, 2007, 09:52 PM

Just for future reference, how do people get go to events like this

. I haven't read all of the thread by the way

, just thought I'd put that in case anyone says the info is on page so & so

.

Scrogg · Oct 7th, 2007, 09:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Hyper Active (original)

Just for future reference, how do people get go to events like this

.

MINI2 and all the local MINI Clubs get sent a certain number of tickets. It's then down to whoever runs that site/club to allocate them to members.

minicabrio · Oct 7th, 2007, 09:57 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Hyper Active (original)

Just for future reference, how do people get go to events like this

. I haven't read all of the thread by the way

, just thought I'd put that in case anyone says the info is on page so & so

.

The clubs were all given an allocation... all the MINI2 tickets were given on a first come first served basis.

EDIT: Allocations were quite small this time around... I think most clubs received between 6 and 12 tickets, so you can imagine, these didn't go very far

Hyper Active · Oct 7th, 2007, 10:04 PM

So what was the general opinion of the new Clubman ?. Anyone tempted to trade in there R50 hatchback or cabrio or even there R56 ?.

Scrogg · Oct 7th, 2007, 10:06 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by minicabrio (original)

EDIT: Allocations were quite small this time around... I think most clubs received between 6 and 12 tickets, so you can imagine, these didn't go very far

I had a feeling the allocations had been very small this time around

I can't have been the only one that noticed all the empty seats, and that they could have fitted a fair few more in?

KillerByte · Oct 7th, 2007, 10:11 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Hyper Active (original)

So what was the general opinion of the new Clubman?

It's very good in my opinion. Wouldn't really suit me at the moment as I have no need for the slightly larger boot space or the Club door but as a family MINI it would serve fairly well. Although it's not the way it was designed, I feel that the Clubman justifies the shape of the R56 and it wouldn't have worked with the first generation shape as well.

Maybe in a few years.

Scrogg · Oct 7th, 2007, 10:16 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by KillerByte (original)

I feel that the Clubman justifies the shape of the R56 and it wouldn't have worked with the first generation shape as well.

I had that conversation yesterday (I think it was with Rakey and RVW?) and commented that the reason people think that is, unlike the R56, there is nothing to compare this car to.

Had there been a 1st Generation Clubman many people's views would have been very different.

KillerByte · Oct 7th, 2007, 10:22 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original)

I had that conversation yesterday (I think it was with Rakey and RVW?) and commented that the reason people think that is, unlike the R56, there is nothing to compare this car to.

Had there been a 1st Generation Clubman many people's views would have been very different.

Possibly.

However, Dirk showed some 3D model ideas of possible Clubman variations and those were based on the first generation cars. Now, going on to the 'masculine' feel of the Clubman which he mentioned a few times during his presentation, I do feel that the R56's bulkier appearance contributes to that idea. The first generation MINI was, in my opinion, much more feminine and baby-faced, and this would have deviated from the 'masculine' design values. I know Dirk referred to MINI design incorporating masculine, feminine and baby lines but I do feel that the looks of the first generation were biased toward the feminine and baby sides.

mad brummie · Oct 7th, 2007, 10:38 PM

i agree Kev the r50 etc is much more feminine in lines, take the cascase from the roof down the windows and doors and the rear 3/4 panel, the lines are much more muscular on the r56 than the slightly more svelte lines of the previous cars.

Scrogg · Oct 7th, 2007, 11:12 PM

Don't get me wrong guys, I was very impressed with the Clubman (apart from the rear door and it's window spoiling the looks

) but I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking that this is in part to it being a new model based on the R56, not a new version of a previous model.

You are both right in that it suits the new styling of the MINI range in general more than the Hatchback.

sef · Oct 8th, 2007, 06:44 AM

I enjoyed the day too. I like the look of the Clubman but wasn't too keen on the front seat belt being a trip hazard for people getting out of the suicide door... I just loved the Choc Brown interior... The rear end was interesting but IMO not that much extra room and not enough for me to justify a change. All the detachable parts would need to be taken out and stored somewhere if you wanted to load the rear with suitcases and go away on holiday...

On the whole it was a great day... Food was superb...

Paul · Oct 8th, 2007, 08:31 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by minicabrio (original)

EDIT: Allocations were quite small this time around... I think most clubs received between 6 and 12 tickets, so you can imagine, these didn't go very far

15, but they went very fast!

ScoobyDoo · Oct 8th, 2007, 01:47 PM

Have to agree with everyone it was a brill day and Dirk's presentation was really interesting.
I'm still not keen on the Clubman though I do like it more now that I have seen it in the flesh - but as some people have said it would suit a family with a child alot more than a couple (or like me a single) as I can't see the point in paying the extra approx. £1500 for 25cm more car.

(Though I am in love with hot chocolate and the lounge leather to match)

Shaun · Oct 8th, 2007, 03:04 PM

Looking at some of the excellent pictures I am getting the impresion the boot layout is like the Audi A4 Avant with a roll back soft luggage cover. A board over a shallow load compartment and a further board over a wheel well. If the Clubman has a wheel well offering a spare at cost seems a bit stingy but I remember reading that the space would be different if you didnt have a spare wheel (Any Ideas?)
Hopefully there will be chance to see for myself when the "plebs" get a chance to veiw it still keen but waivering on boot size over four doors times cost equation.

Shamster · Oct 8th, 2007, 08:29 PM

Some M2'ers

Chris, Jax, and Ray having a pre-presentation natter

minicabrio · Oct 9th, 2007, 09:48 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Shamster (original)

Some M2'ers

Chris, Jax, and Ray having a pre-presentation natter

Pic 2....Jax looks like she seen someone she knows lurking in the distance

jordan · Oct 9th, 2007, 01:35 PM

anyone dont want there MINI clubman Lanyard please concact me!

Rakey · Oct 9th, 2007, 07:10 PM

great day out, loved the Chocolate brown Clubman, the interior was nice too

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Oct 8th, 2007, 06:44 AM	#133 (permalink)
sef Black and Blue all over.. My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: A dark Corner Local Time: 04:09 PM Posts: 640 Offline	I enjoyed the day too. I like the look of the Clubman but wasn't too keen on the front seat belt being a trip hazard for people getting out of the suicide door... I just loved the Choc Brown interior... The rear end was interesting but IMO not that much extra room and not enough for me to justify a change. All the detachable parts would need to be taken out and stored somewhere if you wanted to load the rear with suitcases and go away on holiday... On the whole it was a great day... Food was superb... www.miniclubuk.com

Oct 8th, 2007, 08:31 AM	#134 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 04:09 PM Posts: 46,123 Online	Quote: Originally Posted by minicabrio (original) EDIT: Allocations were quite small this time around... I think most clubs received between 6 and 12 tickets, so you can imagine, these didn't go very far 15, but they went very fast! Trained Monkeys - New Fiat 500

Oct 8th, 2007, 01:47 PM	#135 (permalink)
ScoobyDoo Back in a first gen. My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: DBRally Local Time: 04:09 PM Posts: 1,426 Offline	Have to agree with everyone it was a brill day and Dirk's presentation was really interesting. I'm still not keen on the Clubman though I do like it more now that I have seen it in the flesh - but as some people have said it would suit a family with a child alot more than a couple (or like me a single) as I can't see the point in paying the extra approx. £1500 for 25cm more car. (Though I am in love with hot chocolate and the lounge leather to match) http://www.dbrally.net

Oct 8th, 2007, 03:04 PM	#136 (permalink)
Shaun Mr Big Stuff Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Oldham Local Time: 04:09 PM Posts: 3,142 Online	Looking at some of the excellent pictures I am getting the impresion the boot layout is like the Audi A4 Avant with a roll back soft luggage cover. A board over a shallow load compartment and a further board over a wheel well. If the Clubman has a wheel well offering a spare at cost seems a bit stingy but I remember reading that the space would be different if you didnt have a spare wheel (Any Ideas?) Hopefully there will be chance to see for myself when the "plebs" get a chance to veiw it still keen but waivering on boot size over four doors times cost equation. http://www.flickr.com/photos/shaun-g/

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Oct 7th, 2007, 08:51 PM	#122 (permalink)
KillerByte Same ****, different day! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Nottingham Local Time: 04:09 PM Posts: 8,751 Offline	Here are some photos from the day. MINI Clubman Preview Event - 06/10/2007 I've got to say, I do like Hot Chocolate.

Oct 7th, 2007, 09:52 PM	#123 (permalink)
Hyper Active MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Watford, Herts. UK Local Time: 04:09 PM Posts: 2,126 Offline	Just for future reference, how do people get go to events like this . I haven't read all of the thread by the way , just thought I'd put that in case anyone says the info is on page so & so .

Oct 7th, 2007, 09:54 PM	#124 (permalink)
Scrogg Not on a Tuesday Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 04:09 PM Posts: 12,381 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Hyper Active (original) Just for future reference, how do people get go to events like this . MINI2 and all the local MINI Clubs get sent a certain number of tickets. It's then down to whoever runs that site/club to allocate them to members.

Oct 7th, 2007, 09:57 PM	#125 (permalink)
minicabrio Back in a MINI Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hampshire Local Time: 04:09 PM Posts: 15,449 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Hyper Active (original) Just for future reference, how do people get go to events like this . I haven't read all of the thread by the way , just thought I'd put that in case anyone says the info is on page so & so . The clubs were all given an allocation... all the MINI2 tickets were given on a first come first served basis. EDIT: Allocations were quite small this time around... I think most clubs received between 6 and 12 tickets, so you can imagine, these didn't go very far

Oct 7th, 2007, 10:04 PM	#126 (permalink)
Hyper Active MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Watford, Herts. UK Local Time: 04:09 PM Posts: 2,126 Offline	So what was the general opinion of the new Clubman ?. Anyone tempted to trade in there R50 hatchback or cabrio or even there R56 ?.

Oct 7th, 2007, 10:06 PM	#127 (permalink)
Scrogg Not on a Tuesday Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 04:09 PM Posts: 12,381 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by minicabrio (original) EDIT: Allocations were quite small this time around... I think most clubs received between 6 and 12 tickets, so you can imagine, these didn't go very far I had a feeling the allocations had been very small this time around I can't have been the only one that noticed all the empty seats, and that they could have fitted a fair few more in?

Oct 7th, 2007, 10:11 PM	#128 (permalink)
KillerByte Same ****, different day! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Nottingham Local Time: 04:09 PM Posts: 8,751 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Hyper Active (original) So what was the general opinion of the new Clubman? It's very good in my opinion. Wouldn't really suit me at the moment as I have no need for the slightly larger boot space or the Club door but as a family MINI it would serve fairly well. Although it's not the way it was designed, I feel that the Clubman justifies the shape of the R56 and it wouldn't have worked with the first generation shape as well. Maybe in a few years.

Oct 7th, 2007, 10:16 PM	#129 (permalink)
Scrogg Not on a Tuesday Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 04:09 PM Posts: 12,381 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by KillerByte (original) I feel that the Clubman justifies the shape of the R56 and it wouldn't have worked with the first generation shape as well. I had that conversation yesterday (I think it was with Rakey and RVW?) and commented that the reason people think that is, unlike the R56, there is nothing to compare this car to. Had there been a 1st Generation Clubman many people's views would have been very different.

Oct 7th, 2007, 10:22 PM	#130 (permalink)
KillerByte Same ****, different day! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Nottingham Local Time: 04:09 PM Posts: 8,751 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original) I had that conversation yesterday (I think it was with Rakey and RVW?) and commented that the reason people think that is, unlike the R56, there is nothing to compare this car to. Had there been a 1st Generation Clubman many people's views would have been very different. Possibly. However, Dirk showed some 3D model ideas of possible Clubman variations and those were based on the first generation cars. Now, going on to the 'masculine' feel of the Clubman which he mentioned a few times during his presentation, I do feel that the R56's bulkier appearance contributes to that idea. The first generation MINI was, in my opinion, much more feminine and baby-faced, and this would have deviated from the 'masculine' design values. I know Dirk referred to MINI design incorporating masculine, feminine and baby lines but I do feel that the looks of the first generation were biased toward the feminine and baby sides.

Oct 7th, 2007, 10:38 PM	#131 (permalink)
mad brummie I Just Can't Get Enough Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: end of the alphabet Local Time: 04:09 PM Posts: 48,082 Online	i agree Kev the r50 etc is much more feminine in lines, take the cascase from the roof down the windows and doors and the rear 3/4 panel, the lines are much more muscular on the r56 than the slightly more svelte lines of the previous cars.

Oct 7th, 2007, 11:12 PM	#132 (permalink)
Scrogg Not on a Tuesday Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 04:09 PM Posts: 12,381 Offline	Don't get me wrong guys, I was very impressed with the Clubman (apart from the rear door and it's window spoiling the looks ) but I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking that this is in part to it being a new model based on the R56, not a new version of a previous model. You are both right in that it suits the new styling of the MINI range in general more than the Hatchback.

Oct 8th, 2007, 08:29 PM	#137 (permalink)
Shamster The Indian Cowboy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Reminiscing Local Time: 04:09 PM Posts: 10,775 Offline	Some M2'ers Chris, Jax, and Ray having a pre-presentation natter Attached Thumbnails 170508

Oct 9th, 2007, 09:48 AM	#138 (permalink)
minicabrio Back in a MINI Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hampshire Local Time: 04:09 PM Posts: 15,449 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Shamster (original) Some M2'ers Chris, Jax, and Ray having a pre-presentation natter Pic 2....Jax looks like she seen someone she knows lurking in the distance

Oct 9th, 2007, 01:35 PM	#139 (permalink)
jordan MINI2 Master Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: York Local Time: 03:09 PM Posts: 833 Offline	anyone dont want there MINI clubman Lanyard please concact me! Jordan Bellamy Animation www.freewebs.com/jordanbllmy Where Plasticine Has a Life of Its Own

Oct 9th, 2007, 07:10 PM	#140 (permalink)
Rakey all good things....... My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The local Local Time: 04:09 PM Posts: 53,524 Offline	great day out, loved the Chocolate brown Clubman, the interior was nice too Food rule fanatic

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