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mella yella fella · Apr 6th, 2008, 05:54 PM

At last, to stop all the moaners on this site whinging about the Clubman only having a clubdoor on the right hand side,here is an exclusive spy shot of the 2009 model clubman

Tigger, Eeyore & Roo · Apr 6th, 2008, 06:14 PM

Looks like they've only put it on the left hand side for the LHD model

daro911 · Apr 6th, 2008, 06:14 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by mella yella fella (original)

At last, to stop all the moaners on this site whinging about the Clubman only having a clubdoor on the right hand side,here is an exclusive spy shot of the 2009 model clubman

Looks ridiculous on that side

More than happy with mine as is thanks

ViscountCharles · Apr 6th, 2008, 06:21 PM

*IF* they were m0oving the club door to the LH side for this year's production, I'd be cancelling my order straight away. The RH side is the *correct* side to have it on, thanks. Either that, or BOTH sides.

Stiggy · Apr 6th, 2008, 06:38 PM

Ah yes, the 2009 nambulC iniM

mister.t · Apr 6th, 2008, 07:11 PM

Hopefully they will go the extra mile and put a clubdoor on either side

Makes sense

vaper · Apr 6th, 2008, 08:17 PM

have we ruled out the possibility that this could be a flipped photo?

mella yella fella · Apr 6th, 2008, 09:33 PM

what are you trying to say???

next you will be accusing me of using a supersize mirror!!!!

carboncrazy · Apr 6th, 2008, 11:43 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ViscountCharles (original)

*IF* they were m0oving the club door to the LH side for this year's production, I'd be cancelling my order straight away. The RH side is the *correct* side to have it on, thanks. Either that, or BOTH sides.

Are you kidding

. Your profile says you are situated in England! As we drive on the LEFT Hand Side of the road CLEARLY it would be needed on the LH Side as one on the RH Side would open out onto the road where cars come hurteling past people exiting the back, Im sure you would not want family members, friends and KIDS (if you have them) getting out of the car ROAD-SIDE would you. this is the best thing thats happened for the Clubman. Alot of people i know have thought twice about them due to that problem. The reason it started on the RH Side is due to it being released in other countries before ours therefore the door being on the RH Side was relavent to release passengers curb side as they use the opposite side of the road.

Slate me if you will, but no matter what anyone says the Clubdoor in the UK belongs on the LH Side.

Joe

Stiggy · Apr 7th, 2008, 05:58 AM

Please, everyone, it was a joke!

ViscountCharles · Apr 7th, 2008, 06:03 AM

Not kidding at all. Yes, we DRIVE on the LHS. But we SIT on the RH side of the car.

I can guarantee that in EVERY instance that I want to open the club door, I will be sat in the RH seat and will be getting into or out of it, and will find opening the club door a doddle. As I will be the one opening it, I can supervise any little ones so that they will not be getting out when it is unsafe to do so.

If the club door was on the other side of the road, most of the time I would have to walk all the way around the car to open it (unless it's an occasion where I have a FS passenger - which is less than 50% of the time).

Finally there's how I (and I suspect many others) park the car when it's in my garage. Modern cars are wider than the cars that most gaages were designed for, so it's usually a pretty tight squeeze. You can have one front door opening, or the other. Most of us park in such a way that we can open the driver's side door, and not the passenger side one. If the club door were on the passnger side, I wouldn't be able to open it while the car was garaged - which means getting into the car, driving out of the garage, getting out of the driver's seat, loading the kids on board, then getting back in and driving off. With the club door on the RHS, everyone/thing can be loaded while the car is still in the garage.

I've never understood all the whining about the club door being on the "wrong" side. It's so obviously not (and I've seen more than a few continental motoring journalists complaining that the club door is "wrong" for their LH drive cars, too). If you think that it's unsafe to let children out into the road, then don't do it - park the other way on to traffic, have them get out of the passenger side door (as they already do in my hatch), or don't park there at all.

Tigger, Eeyore & Roo · Apr 7th, 2008, 06:48 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ViscountCharles (original)

I've never understood all the whining about the club door being on the "wrong" side.

Please don't dismiss other people's genuine opinions as "whining".

KenL · Apr 7th, 2008, 07:15 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ViscountCharles (original)

I've never understood all the whining about the club door being on the "wrong" side. It's so obviously not (and I've seen more than a few continental motoring journalists complaining that the club door is "wrong" for their LH drive cars, too).

Really? Please post where you saw this - I am very surprised by this. UK journalists have expressed concern about its position have they not?

Quote: Originally Posted by ViscountCharles (original)

If you think that it's unsafe to let children out into the road, then don't do it - park the other way on to traffic, have them get out of the passenger side door (as they already do in my hatch), or don't park there at all.

...and greatly increase your chance of an accident when pulling away. Parking against the traffic is illegal in the USA for this reason.

swamos · Apr 7th, 2008, 08:05 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by KenL (original)

...and greatly increase your chance of an accident when pulling away. Parking against the traffic is illegal in the USA for this reason.

And in Australia.

This thread is rather funny. I'm afraid to say to the believers that making a joke thread won't make the controversy go away.

When you go to sell your car you'll have to find like minded individuals who don't think it's an issue. You will also have to hope that MINI don't put another door onto the clubman or your resale is sunk (I agree this is not likely short term). If they had just taken the time and put a door on both sides ....

Morro · Apr 7th, 2008, 09:51 AM

From the back you can get out at either side of the car, no problem, clubdoor or not.

The safety issue with the Clubman is the size of the gear stick. It makes it cumbersome to get from the driver's seat, over to the door on the "safe" passenger side. We all get in and out of our cars from that side, right?

Shamster · Apr 7th, 2008, 10:03 AM

I don't think having an extra door on the car albeit on the drivers side in the RHD market is a huge issue. You can always exit on the 'normal side' of the car anyway as you have always been able to.

billy.batson · Apr 7th, 2008, 10:45 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by mella yella fella (original)

At last, to stop all the moaners on this site whinging about the Clubman only having a clubdoor on the right hand side,here is an exclusive spy shot of the 2009 model clubman

Why do some people clog up the forum with stupid items like this?

mella yella fella · Apr 7th, 2008, 11:03 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by billy.batson (original)

Why do some people clog up the forum with stupid items like this?

As Stiggy has said, IT WAS A JOKE! just trying to inject a little humour into an already over discussed subject.

congratulations on being the first person with a negative response to a bit of fun.

Didn't realise it was your forum anyway

Jim Ray · Apr 7th, 2008, 03:54 PM

I think I can avoid the entire issue by having the door welded shut. I don't carry passengers ever, let them buy their own MINI.

I just wanted the longer cargo area. Anyone know of a rear seat delete kit for the Clubman?

Morro · Apr 7th, 2008, 04:08 PM

Here's my suggestion:

Apr 6th, 2008, 05:54 PM	#1
mella yella fella MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sleepy Norfolk, Local Time: 06:40 AM Posts: 84 Offline	World Exclusive-Clubdoor on Left Hand Side At last, to stop all the moaners on this site whinging about the Clubman only having a clubdoor on the right hand side,here is an exclusive spy shot of the 2009 model clubman Attached Thumbnails Clubbin' it and Lovin' it

Apr 6th, 2008, 06:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tigger, Eeyore & Roo Retiring from Mini2 My Classifieds Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kernow, near England Local Time: 06:40 AM Posts: 4,592 Offline	Looks like they've only put it on the left hand side for the LHD model To register your interest in *The New MINI Kernow Cornish Oggy Run, Summer 2008* please click HERE and welcome to Cornwall! Visitors welcome! English spoken!!

Apr 6th, 2008, 06:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
daro911 MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2002 Local Time: 06:40 AM Posts: 483 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by mella yella fella (original) At last, to stop all the moaners on this site whinging about the Clubman only having a clubdoor on the right hand side,here is an exclusive spy shot of the 2009 model clubman Looks ridiculous on that side More than happy with mine as is thanks Attached Thumbnails Too many freaks not enough circuses Tell a man that there are 400 billion stars and he'll believe you. Tell him a bench has wet paint and he has to touch it.

Apr 6th, 2008, 07:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
mister.t Ambitious, but useless Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nowhere exciting Local Time: 06:40 AM Posts: 2,011 Offline	Hopefully they will go the extra mile and put a clubdoor on either side Makes sense 2007 R56 Cooper

Apr 6th, 2008, 09:33 PM	#8 (permalink)
mella yella fella MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sleepy Norfolk, Local Time: 06:40 AM Posts: 84 Offline	what are you trying to say??? next you will be accusing me of using a supersize mirror!!!! Clubbin' it and Lovin' it

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Apr 6th, 2008, 06:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
ViscountCharles MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2008 Local Time: 06:40 AM Posts: 80 Offline	IF they were m0oving the club door to the LH side for this year's production, I'd be cancelling my order straight away. The RH side is the correct side to have it on, thanks. Either that, or BOTH sides.

Apr 6th, 2008, 06:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
Stiggy Automatic for the People Join Date: Aug 2007 Local Time: 06:40 AM Posts: 374 Offline	Ah yes, the 2009 nambulC iniM

Apr 6th, 2008, 08:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
vaper MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Local Time: 01:40 AM Posts: 13 Offline	have we ruled out the possibility that this could be a flipped photo?

Apr 6th, 2008, 11:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
carboncrazy MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2007 Local Time: 06:40 AM Posts: 208 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ViscountCharles (original) IF they were m0oving the club door to the LH side for this year's production, I'd be cancelling my order straight away. The RH side is the correct side to have it on, thanks. Either that, or BOTH sides. Are you kidding. Your profile says you are situated in England! As we drive on the LEFT Hand Side of the road CLEARLY it would be needed on the LH Side as one on the RH Side would open out onto the road where cars come hurteling past people exiting the back, Im sure you would not want family members, friends and KIDS (if you have them) getting out of the car ROAD-SIDE would you. this is the best thing thats happened for the Clubman. Alot of people i know have thought twice about them due to that problem. The reason it started on the RH Side is due to it being released in other countries before ours therefore the door being on the RH Side was relavent to release passengers curb side as they use the opposite side of the road. Slate me if you will, but no matter what anyone says the Clubdoor in the UK belongs on the LH Side. Joe

Apr 7th, 2008, 05:58 AM	#10 (permalink)
Stiggy Automatic for the People Join Date: Aug 2007 Local Time: 06:40 AM Posts: 374 Offline	Please, everyone, it was a joke!

Apr 7th, 2008, 06:03 AM	#11 (permalink)
ViscountCharles MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2008 Local Time: 06:40 AM Posts: 80 Offline	Not kidding at all. Yes, we DRIVE on the LHS. But we SIT on the RH side of the car. I can guarantee that in EVERY instance that I want to open the club door, I will be sat in the RH seat and will be getting into or out of it, and will find opening the club door a doddle. As I will be the one opening it, I can supervise any little ones so that they will not be getting out when it is unsafe to do so. If the club door was on the other side of the road, most of the time I would have to walk all the way around the car to open it (unless it's an occasion where I have a FS passenger - which is less than 50% of the time). Finally there's how I (and I suspect many others) park the car when it's in my garage. Modern cars are wider than the cars that most gaages were designed for, so it's usually a pretty tight squeeze. You can have one front door opening, or the other. Most of us park in such a way that we can open the driver's side door, and not the passenger side one. If the club door were on the passnger side, I wouldn't be able to open it while the car was garaged - which means getting into the car, driving out of the garage, getting out of the driver's seat, loading the kids on board, then getting back in and driving off. With the club door on the RHS, everyone/thing can be loaded while the car is still in the garage. I've never understood all the whining about the club door being on the "wrong" side. It's so obviously not (and I've seen more than a few continental motoring journalists complaining that the club door is "wrong" for their LH drive cars, too). If you think that it's unsafe to let children out into the road, then don't do it - park the other way on to traffic, have them get out of the passenger side door (as they already do in my hatch), or don't park there at all.

Apr 7th, 2008, 06:48 AM	#12 (permalink)
Tigger, Eeyore & Roo Retiring from Mini2 My Classifieds Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kernow, near England Local Time: 06:40 AM Posts: 4,592 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ViscountCharles (original) I've never understood all the whining about the club door being on the "wrong" side. Please don't dismiss other people's genuine opinions as "whining". To register your interest in *The New MINI Kernow Cornish Oggy Run, Summer 2008* please click HERE and welcome to Cornwall! Visitors welcome! English spoken!!

Apr 7th, 2008, 07:15 AM	#13 (permalink)
KenL MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2002 Location: Edinburgh Local Time: 06:40 AM Posts: 5,259 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ViscountCharles (original) I've never understood all the whining about the club door being on the "wrong" side. It's so obviously not (and I've seen more than a few continental motoring journalists complaining that the club door is "wrong" for their LH drive cars, too). Really? Please post where you saw this - I am very surprised by this. UK journalists have expressed concern about its position have they not? Quote: Originally Posted by ViscountCharles (original) If you think that it's unsafe to let children out into the road, then don't do it - park the other way on to traffic, have them get out of the passenger side door (as they already do in my hatch), or don't park there at all. ...and greatly increase your chance of an accident when pulling away. Parking against the traffic is illegal in the USA for this reason. Red/Black R56 Cooper

Apr 7th, 2008, 08:05 AM	#14 (permalink)
swamos MINI Traitor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 03:40 PM Posts: 6,159 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by KenL (original) ...and greatly increase your chance of an accident when pulling away. Parking against the traffic is illegal in the USA for this reason. And in Australia. This thread is rather funny. I'm afraid to say to the believers that making a joke thread won't make the controversy go away. When you go to sell your car you'll have to find like minded individuals who don't think it's an issue. You will also have to hope that MINI don't put another door onto the clubman or your resale is sunk (I agree this is not likely short term). If they had just taken the time and put a door on both sides .... Clubman less....

Apr 7th, 2008, 09:51 AM	#15 (permalink)
Morro MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Local Time: 05:40 AM Posts: 41 Offline	From the back you can get out at either side of the car, no problem, clubdoor or not. The safety issue with the Clubman is the size of the gear stick. It makes it cumbersome to get from the driver's seat, over to the door on the "safe" passenger side. We all get in and out of our cars from that side, right?

Apr 7th, 2008, 10:03 AM	#16 (permalink)
Shamster The Indian Cowboy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Reminiscing Local Time: 06:40 AM Posts: 10,775 Offline	I don't think having an extra door on the car albeit on the drivers side in the RHD market is a huge issue. You can always exit on the 'normal side' of the car anyway as you have always been able to. 170508

Apr 7th, 2008, 10:45 AM	#17 (permalink)
billy.batson MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Yorkshire, England Local Time: 06:40 AM Posts: 138 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by mella yella fella (original) At last, to stop all the moaners on this site whinging about the Clubman only having a clubdoor on the right hand side,here is an exclusive spy shot of the 2009 model clubman Why do some people clog up the forum with stupid items like this?

Apr 7th, 2008, 11:03 AM	#18 (permalink)
mella yella fella MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sleepy Norfolk, Local Time: 06:40 AM Posts: 84 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by billy.batson (original) Why do some people clog up the forum with stupid items like this? As Stiggy has said, IT WAS A JOKE! just trying to inject a little humour into an already over discussed subject. congratulations on being the first person with a negative response to a bit of fun. Didn't realise it was your forum anyway Clubbin' it and Lovin' it

Apr 7th, 2008, 03:54 PM	#19 (permalink)
Jim Ray AprilWhine's Fuzzy One Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Las Vegas Local Time: 10:40 PM Posts: 1,707 Offline	I think I can avoid the entire issue by having the door welded shut. I don't carry passengers ever, let them buy their own MINI. I just wanted the longer cargo area. Anyone know of a rear seat delete kit for the Clubman?

Apr 7th, 2008, 04:08 PM	#20 (permalink)
Morro MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Local Time: 05:40 AM Posts: 41 Offline	Here's my suggestion:

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