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rentagas · Sep 14th, 2004, 12:18 PM

Just got my car back. Very quick, supercharger seems to whine louder, at lower revs. Exhaust throbs more. Pics later.

rentagas · Sep 14th, 2004, 06:21 PM

OK so you've spent over 20K on your MCSC, somebody offers you 40 more horses for another 3.5K+. Should you go for it (assuming your money:sense ratio is compatibly unbalanced).
Well the problem I have with the MCSC is it can be tricky to get the power down particularly in the wet. This does not seem to get any worse in the JCW because the wheel spin (even with DSC) occurs on initial acceleration. This initial problem seems worse on the convertible than in the hatch presumably because the chassis vibrates more.
The essential question then is assuming you have more power does this come on evenly, predictably, within an acceptable rev range and without unpleasant noise. Well the answer is yes the JCW delivers buckets of power, seamlessly with a much louder and higher pitched supercharger whine- but it is by no means unpleasant. The exhaust note is more burbling with probaby less lift of popping. With the top down or up the sound is pleasant.
Oh and it goes very, very fast.
The question of whether the package is worth the 25k plus is more difficult. Do you want a 318i?.........Quite. A decently specced A4 cabrio, quattro 3.0 will cost over 35k. I think it represents value for money because it gives R32 performance with far more excitement (for the same money) with a soft top and am pleased with the result. My next choice would have been an S4 cabrio and instead for the same moneyI have a very quick cabrio and a fast Golf (which debadged I can park anywhere and it will be ignored).
The MCSC JCW feels like it was designed to be this way and the stock car has been detuned -drive one and see if you agree

dinger · Sep 14th, 2004, 06:52 PM

Congrats on being the first to have a Wrks Cooper S Cabrio on MINI2.

paulworthing · Sep 14th, 2004, 06:52 PM

what can I say . . . .

. . . LUCKY BOY!

Washy · Sep 15th, 2004, 07:26 AM

March seems so far away

ScottyB · Sep 15th, 2004, 07:31 AM

COOL and Congrats

paulworthing · Sep 15th, 2004, 07:33 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by rentagas

Pics later.

. . .but when?

Boddington · Sep 15th, 2004, 10:32 AM

He's posted some on the performance and tuning forum - 210bhp JCW thread. Looks wicked and I am pretty jealous.

Wonder what the insurance is like on a MCSC JCW???? Ouch.

rentagas · Sep 15th, 2004, 11:40 AM

£95 more (about£700)-which i thought was quite good considering they wanted £135 more for side skirts (which I thought wasn't worth it)
The JCW pack comes up as an option on the insurance company's computer so it didn't need to go to the underwriters-an advantage the JCW kit has over other power modifications.

miniboyblue · Sep 15th, 2004, 02:14 PM

Hi rentagas

You lucky lucky boy, had to postpone mine which was due to be done this Tuesday (was litle un's fisrt day at school , and er indoors would have chopped my nuts off). Anyway booked in at JCG for next Tuesday now.
Who do you use for your insurance ??
Also am I reading it right that they will charge you an extra £135 for having side skirts fitted to your car ??

paulworthing · Sep 15th, 2004, 02:31 PM

Just been to JCW at East Preston and they have got a wonderful CR MCSC Works sitting on the forecort - no price on it though and I was too scared to ask how much it was (going to be out of my league so why bother!)

daz111 · Sep 15th, 2004, 10:58 PM

Does the jcw kit for mcsc use more petrol than standard mcsc? this would be a major issue for me has much has i want the kit but i dont want to pay for more petrol.

rentagas · Sep 16th, 2004, 09:32 PM

I use Direct Line I made them confirm that they would replace all my options in the event of an insured event-which is often the case-and yes they wanted to charge an extra £135 for side skirts!
The MCSC is by no means an economical car but there doesn't seem to be a massive change in petrol consumption. The hatchback apparently is little different between the S and JCW S. However the noise above 4500 rpm is fairly intoxicating and the temptation to play may well adversely affect my petrol consumption-so far it hasn't. I suppose if you do 25,000 miles a year then it would be significant but it would not be for me. Sorry about no more pics-I've been busy earning the money to pay for it!

LMB · Sep 16th, 2004, 09:43 PM

Any pics of the new Air Filter? Not that there's much to see.

rentagas · Sep 16th, 2004, 09:53 PM

I'll take some pics tomorrow..........thanks for the interest

rentagas · Sep 17th, 2004, 08:43 AM

More pictures of car
Posting pictures of oily bits on performance and tuning

quim · Sep 17th, 2004, 09:48 AM

paa · Sep 21st, 2004, 07:09 AM

My dealer said wait until I had done @6000 miles before getting a JCW kit put on, any comments? My friends just picked up a 325i conv and there is no room in the back of that so i'm well justified in pouring a few more grand in the mini pit.

quim · Sep 21st, 2004, 07:58 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by paa

My dealer said wait until I had done @6000 miles before getting a JCW kit put on,.

It's a JCW recomendation because your motor will run and adjust itself

Sep 14th, 2004, 12:18 PM	#1
rentagas MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2004 Local Time: 02:38 PM Posts: 1,430 Offline	Mcsc Jcw Just got my car back. Very quick, supercharger seems to whine louder, at lower revs. Exhaust throbs more. Pics later.

Sep 14th, 2004, 06:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
rentagas MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2004 Local Time: 02:38 PM Posts: 1,430 Offline	OK so you've spent over 20K on your MCSC, somebody offers you 40 more horses for another 3.5K+. Should you go for it (assuming your money:sense ratio is compatibly unbalanced). Well the problem I have with the MCSC is it can be tricky to get the power down particularly in the wet. This does not seem to get any worse in the JCW because the wheel spin (even with DSC) occurs on initial acceleration. This initial problem seems worse on the convertible than in the hatch presumably because the chassis vibrates more. The essential question then is assuming you have more power does this come on evenly, predictably, within an acceptable rev range and without unpleasant noise. Well the answer is yes the JCW delivers buckets of power, seamlessly with a much louder and higher pitched supercharger whine- but it is by no means unpleasant. The exhaust note is more burbling with probaby less lift of popping. With the top down or up the sound is pleasant. Oh and it goes very, very fast. The question of whether the package is worth the 25k plus is more difficult. Do you want a 318i?.........Quite. A decently specced A4 cabrio, quattro 3.0 will cost over 35k. I think it represents value for money because it gives R32 performance with far more excitement (for the same money) with a soft top and am pleased with the result. My next choice would have been an S4 cabrio and instead for the same moneyI have a very quick cabrio and a fast Golf (which debadged I can park anywhere and it will be ignored). The MCSC JCW feels like it was designed to be this way and the stock car has been detuned -drive one and see if you agree Attached Thumbnails

Sep 14th, 2004, 06:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
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Sep 14th, 2004, 06:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
dinger TT or not TT Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tunbridge Wells,Kent Local Time: 01:38 PM Posts: 3,607 Offline	Congrats on being the first to have a Wrks Cooper S Cabrio on MINI2.

Sep 15th, 2004, 07:33 AM	#7 (permalink)
paulworthing MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Worthing Local Time: 01:38 PM Posts: 409 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by rentagas Pics later. . . .but when? MINI One Convertible Hot Orange, Full Aero Kit, Heated Sports Seats, X-Lites, etc

Sep 15th, 2004, 10:32 AM	#8 (permalink)
Boddington mini beast Join Date: May 2003 Location: Manchester, England Local Time: 01:38 PM Posts: 130 Offline	He's posted some on the performance and tuning forum - 210bhp JCW thread. Looks wicked and I am pretty jealous. Wonder what the insurance is like on a MCSC JCW???? Ouch.

Sep 15th, 2004, 11:40 AM	#9 (permalink)
rentagas MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2004 Local Time: 02:38 PM Posts: 1,430 Offline	insurance £95 more (about£700)-which i thought was quite good considering they wanted £135 more for side skirts (which I thought wasn't worth it) The JCW pack comes up as an option on the insurance company's computer so it didn't need to go to the underwriters-an advantage the JCW kit has over other power modifications.

Sep 15th, 2004, 02:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
miniboyblue GTT........See Yah Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Radlett,Herts Local Time: 02:38 PM Posts: 433 Offline	Hi rentagas You lucky lucky boy, had to postpone mine which was due to be done this Tuesday (was litle un's fisrt day at school , and er indoors would have chopped my nuts off). Anyway booked in at JCG for next Tuesday now. Who do you use for your insurance ?? Also am I reading it right that they will charge you an extra £135 for having side skirts fitted to your car ??

Sep 15th, 2004, 02:31 PM	#11 (permalink)
paulworthing MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Worthing Local Time: 01:38 PM Posts: 409 Offline	Just been to JCW at East Preston and they have got a wonderful CR MCSC Works sitting on the forecort - no price on it though and I was too scared to ask how much it was (going to be out of my league so why bother!) MINI One Convertible Hot Orange, Full Aero Kit, Heated Sports Seats, X-Lites, etc

Sep 15th, 2004, 10:58 PM	#12 (permalink)
daz111 MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2004 Local Time: 02:38 PM Posts: 66 Offline	Petrol Consumption Does the jcw kit for mcsc use more petrol than standard mcsc? this would be a major issue for me has much has i want the kit but i dont want to pay for more petrol. MINI Cooper S in HYPER BLUE undefined

Sep 16th, 2004, 09:32 PM	#13 (permalink)
rentagas MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2004 Local Time: 02:38 PM Posts: 1,430 Offline	I use Direct Line I made them confirm that they would replace all my options in the event of an insured event-which is often the case-and yes they wanted to charge an extra £135 for side skirts! The MCSC is by no means an economical car but there doesn't seem to be a massive change in petrol consumption. The hatchback apparently is little different between the S and JCW S. However the noise above 4500 rpm is fairly intoxicating and the temptation to play may well adversely affect my petrol consumption-so far it hasn't. I suppose if you do 25,000 miles a year then it would be significant but it would not be for me. Sorry about no more pics-I've been busy earning the money to pay for it!

Sep 16th, 2004, 09:43 PM	#14 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 02:38 PM Posts: 24,934 Offline	Any pics of the new Air Filter? Not that there's much to see. Global Moderator

Sep 16th, 2004, 09:53 PM	#15 (permalink)
rentagas MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2004 Local Time: 02:38 PM Posts: 1,430 Offline	I'll take some pics tomorrow..........thanks for the interest

Sep 17th, 2004, 08:43 AM	#16 (permalink)
rentagas MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2004 Local Time: 02:38 PM Posts: 1,430 Offline	More pictures of car Posting pictures of oily bits on performance and tuning Attached Thumbnails

Sep 17th, 2004, 09:48 AM	#17 (permalink)
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Sep 21st, 2004, 07:09 AM	#18 (permalink)
paa That's a Gamble Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North west Local Time: 02:38 PM Posts: 105 Offline	My dealer said wait until I had done @6000 miles before getting a JCW kit put on, any comments? My friends just picked up a 325i conv and there is no room in the back of that so i'm well justified in pouring a few more grand in the mini pit.

Sep 21st, 2004, 07:58 AM	#19 (permalink)
quim Rainhill's guest Join Date: May 2003 Location: Girona, Catalonia Local Time: 03:38 PM Posts: 394 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by paa My dealer said wait until I had done @6000 miles before getting a JCW kit put on,. It's a JCW recomendation because your motor will run and adjust itself

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