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ajamesj · May 14th, 2007, 07:35 PM

I have a Cooper S 2004 mdl at present and have covered around 25000 miles in the past year will the deisel be a down grade is it sluggish ??? is it worth the wait for one or should I stick to my S

Paul · May 14th, 2007, 07:55 PM

Only a test drive can tell you that.

But I personally don't think it's sluggish, it's pretty perky really.

ajamesj · May 15th, 2007, 08:01 PM

Had the test drive but expected del September (Is this right) also got a crap trade in price since its based on september values

Harpo · May 16th, 2007, 11:55 AM

I would recommend asking how much they would put it on their forecourt for.

Then deduct a couple of grand for the trade in value.

Of course the lead time does give you a good chance to sell privately for the price you are looking for.

Black&Blue · May 16th, 2007, 12:10 PM

CooperS all tha way, why go slower?

Paul · May 16th, 2007, 12:16 PM

You tell us, you drive a One don't you?

Economy is a major factor on the Diesel, I think residuals should prove strong as well as supply may well struggle to meet demand, and it's still a spritely drive.

ScottyBoy · May 16th, 2007, 12:27 PM

I do agree with LookalikeJCW to a certain extent, i couldnt imagine owning a slower car as ill most likely want it to go just as fast as my S but if you do cover that many miles then the sensible option is to trade in for a deisel! no doubt about it

unless

you can afford the running costs, obviously you can because you have done for the past year but then you wouldnt be asking this question if it was sensible for you to do so.

I do alot off driving when i do come home from work, if im home for 2 weeks then ill be filling up the tank say every 3 days as i did over easter. Its not cheap and if i was home from work everyday like a 9 - 5 job at home then maybe i wouldnt drive as much but, if i did i would not own an MCS at all!

Scott

ONED · May 18th, 2007, 12:21 PM

It's a better choice than the Cooper without a doubt! with that sort of miles if I were your i'd deffo consider one now.

Take a few extended test drives, i don't think you'll be disappointed!
As for delivery, shop around, some dealers may struggle to shift them and may have slots available.

Also as for trade-in, I still recommend to anyone to clean their car up stick it on autotrader and expect to get a GRAND more than the dealers are offering. if your cars a good un you'll get it!

Black&Blue · May 30th, 2007, 03:22 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original)

You tell us, you drive a One don't you?

Economy is a major factor on the Diesel, I think residuals should prove strong as well as supply may well struggle to meet demand, and it's still a spritely drive.

I would get a cooperS in an instant just cant afford the insurance, cant wait untill i can il be strait into one

Mark

rentagas · May 30th, 2007, 05:01 PM

I've had a JCW S, been there done that, sold it.
Got bored with:
Petrol stations (permanently looking out for the next optimax pump)
Spinning squealing front wheels (210bhp through the front wheels is a real pain in the wet)
Spotty Saxo drivers trying to pass me

The cooper D is certainly not seismically fast but in the power band it can certainly shift!

Robboc · May 30th, 2007, 06:41 PM

You got bored with 210bhp supercharged version, but not with a 110bhp diesel version? different I suppose.

I guess we all have a different perception of how a car should be and feel. The only way is to test drive both yourself. No amount of wrangling here will really help you decide and if it does it could be the wrong choice for you. Get out there you lazy bugger

Pssst. Go supercharged.

pantheon · Jun 1st, 2007, 08:28 AM

I am also thinking of getting a Cooper D - but I am moving from a Rear wheel drive Volvo Turbo!?!

I enjoyed the test drive and hope to book an extended test drive to really put it through its paces1

Any suggestions/ tips for anything to especally look out for in the test drive?

rentagas · Jun 1st, 2007, 09:16 AM

The car shines on a twisty road provided you keep it in the right gear. Again on a dual carriageway it's pick up even up hills is good. It behaves most like a V6 rather than an old fashioned turbo or VVti engine. It may take you a while to get used to it!

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ajamesj U ave just been Doopered Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arbroath Local Time: 09:59 AM Posts: 60 Offline	Should I go for it???? I have a Cooper S 2004 mdl at present and have covered around 25000 miles in the past year will the deisel be a down grade is it sluggish ??? is it worth the wait for one or should I stick to my S

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May 14th, 2007, 07:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 09:59 AM Posts: 40,710 Online	Only a test drive can tell you that. But I personally don't think it's sluggish, it's pretty perky really.

May 15th, 2007, 08:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
ajamesj U ave just been Doopered Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arbroath Local Time: 09:59 AM Posts: 60 Offline	Had the test drive but expected del September (Is this right) also got a crap trade in price since its based on september values

May 16th, 2007, 12:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
Black&Blue Formerly LookalikeJCW My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: UK Local Time: 09:59 AM Posts: 358 Offline	CooperS all tha way, why go slower?

May 16th, 2007, 12:16 PM	#6 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 09:59 AM Posts: 40,710 Online	You tell us, you drive a One don't you? Economy is a major factor on the Diesel, I think residuals should prove strong as well as supply may well struggle to meet demand, and it's still a spritely drive.

May 16th, 2007, 12:27 PM	#7 (permalink)
ScottyBoy Obsessive Car Cleaner OCC My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Thornaby NE Local Time: 09:59 AM Posts: 2,874 Offline	I do agree with LookalikeJCW to a certain extent, i couldnt imagine owning a slower car as ill most likely want it to go just as fast as my S but if you do cover that many miles then the sensible option is to trade in for a deisel! no doubt about it unless you can afford the running costs, obviously you can because you have done for the past year but then you wouldnt be asking this question if it was sensible for you to do so. I do alot off driving when i do come home from work, if im home for 2 weeks then ill be filling up the tank say every 3 days as i did over easter. Its not cheap and if i was home from work everyday like a 9 - 5 job at home then maybe i wouldnt drive as much but, if i did i would not own an MCS at all! Scott

May 18th, 2007, 12:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
ONED SUCKIN DIESEL!!!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ballydung Manor ! Local Time: 09:59 AM Posts: 7,483 Offline	It's a better choice than the Cooper without a doubt! with that sort of miles if I were your i'd deffo consider one now. Take a few extended test drives, i don't think you'll be disappointed! As for delivery, shop around, some dealers may struggle to shift them and may have slots available. Also as for trade-in, I still recommend to anyone to clean their car up stick it on autotrader and expect to get a GRAND more than the dealers are offering. if your cars a good un you'll get it!

May 30th, 2007, 03:22 PM	#9 (permalink)
Black&Blue Formerly LookalikeJCW My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: UK Local Time: 09:59 AM Posts: 358 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original) You tell us, you drive a One don't you? Economy is a major factor on the Diesel, I think residuals should prove strong as well as supply may well struggle to meet demand, and it's still a spritely drive. I would get a cooperS in an instant just cant afford the insurance, cant wait untill i can il be strait into one Mark

May 30th, 2007, 05:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
rentagas MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2004 Local Time: 09:59 AM Posts: 1,426 Offline	I've had a JCW S, been there done that, sold it. Got bored with: Petrol stations (permanently looking out for the next optimax pump) Spinning squealing front wheels (210bhp through the front wheels is a real pain in the wet) Spotty Saxo drivers trying to pass me The cooper D is certainly not seismically fast but in the power band it can certainly shift!

May 30th, 2007, 06:41 PM	#11 (permalink)
Robboc MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Epsom, Surrey Local Time: 09:59 AM Posts: 286 Offline	You got bored with 210bhp supercharged version, but not with a 110bhp diesel version? different I suppose. I guess we all have a different perception of how a car should be and feel. The only way is to test drive both yourself. No amount of wrangling here will really help you decide and if it does it could be the wrong choice for you. Get out there you lazy bugger Pssst. Go supercharged.

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Jun 1st, 2007, 08:28 AM	#12 (permalink)
pantheon MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Staffordshire Local Time: 09:59 AM Posts: 50 Offline	I am also thinking of getting a Cooper D - but I am moving from a Rear wheel drive Volvo Turbo!?! I enjoyed the test drive and hope to book an extended test drive to really put it through its paces1 Any suggestions/ tips for anything to especally look out for in the test drive?

Jun 1st, 2007, 09:16 AM	#13 (permalink)
rentagas MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2004 Local Time: 09:59 AM Posts: 1,426 Offline	The car shines on a twisty road provided you keep it in the right gear. Again on a dual carriageway it's pick up even up hills is good. It behaves most like a V6 rather than an old fashioned turbo or VVti engine. It may take you a while to get used to it!