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Amo · Jul 18th, 2007, 06:43 PM

I ordered my Dooper in June. When I originally ordered it, I said to the salesman that I wanted the car in September. There were several reasons for me wanting the car then but obviously the new reg and the fuel saving gadgets were important factors.

My dealer phoned me up today and has told me the car has now been 'approved for production' (not quite sure what that means), and that my car should be delivered in August. I asked if the car would have the new gadgets but he didn't know and I am waiting for him to get back to me, I get the impression that my build date is immovable now

If it turns out that not only do i miss out on the new reg by a couple of weeks but the new fuel and emission stuff as well, i am strongly tempted to cancel my order and go elsewhere. I did ask for a september delivery and cant understand what they have now done it almost a month early when I didn't want them to.

I just wanted to see if you guys had any advice or insight.

Thanks

James · Jul 18th, 2007, 06:45 PM

I think they probably assumed most people would want the car as soon as possible. If by gadgets you mean extras that you have paid for then they wont give you a car without them

Scrogg · Jul 18th, 2007, 06:48 PM

I can't answer the question about whether this particular car will have the revisions or not, sorry, but I can set your mind at ease about the '57' plate.

Regardless of when the car is built and delivered to the dealer you are the customer and therefore you dictate when you take delivery.

You told your dealer when you ordered the car that you wanted a September delivery, and that is what you will get.

Most new cars arrive at dealerships a few weeks before the customers actually want them, so don't worry, this is perfectly normal.

Amo · Jul 18th, 2007, 06:49 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Crammy (original)

I think they probably assumed most people would want the car as soon as possible. If by gadgets you mean extras that you have paid for then they wont give you a car without them

Fair enough, its just that they assumed wrong in this instance. Sorry, by gadgets I means the new fuel saving, regenerative breaks etc. stuff

Amo · Jul 18th, 2007, 06:51 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original)

I can't answer the question about whether this particular car will have the revisions or not, sorry, but I can set your mind at ease about the '57' plate.

Regardless of when the car is built and delivered to the dealer you are the customer and therefore you dictate when you take delivery.

You told your dealer when you ordered the car that you wanted a September delivery, and that is what you will get.

Most new cars arrive at dealerships a few weeks before the customers actually want them, so don't worry, this is perfectly normal.

Thank you Scrogg, that helps me a lot. At least I know I can ask for September delivery, the dealer didn't mention that fact at all when I said I would be disappointed not to get the 57 plate!!

andrewcregan · Jul 18th, 2007, 09:23 PM

The new 08 model begins production in week 31, which is the week beginning the 30th of July. Obviously anything going through the factory before then will not have the fuel saving measures etc etc. My Dooper is being built in week 32 (from 6th August) and will be on a 57 plate - as arranged with my dealer.
If you are concerned that you won't get the new 'gadgets' check the build week of the car - the dealer knows that for certain. If you thought you were buying the 08 model, I wouldn't accept anything less. A good dealer will help you out.

Amo · Jul 19th, 2007, 05:46 AM

Yes I though that was the week the mods were being introduced. Unfortunately my dealer doesn't appear to know when the car is being built, he just said it has been 'approved for production' which is why he is checking the dates and getting back to me.

The 08 car is the car I wanted and, so I was led to believe the one I was ordering. I am tempted to cancel and go to another dealer if it isn't, which is a shame as I was really looking forward getting my first Mini!

andrewcregan · Jul 19th, 2007, 09:34 AM

When I ordered my Dooper about 6 weeks ago, my dealer told me immeadiately what week it will be produced - he even showed it to me on the computer screen. I wanted a 08 model, and insisted on week 31 or later, and got week 32. Not exactly sure about this, but I think the car gets 'approved for production' about 10-14 days before it gets built. This would be right on the cusp of 07/08. Perhaps you will get the oldest 07 or first ever 08?

Amo · Jul 19th, 2007, 03:43 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by andrewcregan (original)

When I ordered my Dooper about 6 weeks ago, my dealer told me immeadiately what week it will be produced - he even showed it to me on the computer screen. I wanted a 08 model, and insisted on week 31 or later, and got week 32. Not exactly sure about this, but I think the car gets 'approved for production' about 10-14 days before it gets built. This would be right on the cusp of 07/08. Perhaps you will get the oldest 07 or first ever 08?

Thanks for the info - I thought (from what I read here) the dealers knew what build date you will be, so thats why I am confused as to why me dealer knew nothing about it (or so he says) and why he was suprised that my build has been put forward.
How very interesting....

It seems like my car will be right on the borderline between 07/08, I'll have to wait and see for the moment.

Amo · Jul 19th, 2007, 05:56 PM

Just heard - week 30 build

And there's nothing to be done to cancel it - its 'my' car

Apparently he doesn't remember me mentioning anything about the engine mods and brake stuff, otherwise they would have made sure it was wk 31 or later (my parents remember otherwise)!!

He also tried to tell me that they have only known about the mods for two weeks, I told them I have known about it for two months and the official website was updated with the new stats about a week before i ordered my car.

So I now have to phone the manager tomorrow to have a 'chat' about it. I am tempted to cancel my order and place it again and by the way I will also be claiming my deposit back as they gave me mis information when ordering the car (basically I was told to order it then and there - I wanted mid september and they said I 'd be waiting for october if I left it ). Everything was also quoted for september - finance, trade in etc. Its also not the bloomin car I ordered!!

I am really dissappointed at the mo, I really don't want this experience to put me off MINIs but its hard not to

laura f · Jul 19th, 2007, 07:02 PM

If it's what you really want, cancel and find a better dealer..... It sounds like you wouldn't go back there anyway!

Scrogg · Jul 19th, 2007, 07:03 PM

How much deposit did you put down Amo?

Amo · Jul 19th, 2007, 07:25 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original)

How much deposit did you put down Amo?

£500, so not a huge amount compared to the cost of the car.

Scrogg · Jul 19th, 2007, 07:28 PM

In which case, the answer to the potential 'loss of deposit' problem is simple...

...go to another dealer, and tell them the deal you've been offered by your current dealer, but add £500 to the part-exchange value. Tell them you'll buy the car if they match it

Amo · Jul 19th, 2007, 07:31 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original)

In which case, the answer to the potential 'loss of deposit' problem is simple...

...go to another dealer, and tell them the deal you've been offered by your current dealer, but add £500 to the part-exchange value. Tell them you'll buy the car if they match it

Nice idea Scrogg

!! Thats definately a back up plan!!

andrewcregan · Jul 19th, 2007, 08:29 PM

When you speak to the Manager tomorrow, tell him you bought the car on the understanding it was a 08 model. Its not your fault the salesman made a mistake. You are dealing with a quality company, and remember the customer is always right! Let them correct the mistake that they made.

weeman1976 · Jul 19th, 2007, 08:34 PM

Sorry to post a totally unrelated reply here, but how in the name of GOD do I post a new thread in the Classifieds section, in order to sell a car?!?! I am close to tearing my hair out.

laura f · Jul 19th, 2007, 08:37 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by weeman1976 (original)

Sorry to post a totally unrelated reply here, but how in the name of GOD do I post a new thread in the Classifieds section, in order to sell a car?!?! I am close to tearing my hair out.

there's a button to the top - ish right of the screen that says place an ad

Scrogg · Jul 19th, 2007, 08:39 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by weeman1976 (original)

Sorry to post a totally unrelated reply here, but how in the name of GOD do I post a new thread in the Classifieds section, in order to sell a car?!?! I am close to tearing my hair out.

You need to reach a certain number of posts before you can posts things like links or Classified Ads. It's an anti-spam thing!

weeman1976 · Jul 19th, 2007, 08:43 PM

Thank you ! I couldnt see the icon for posting a new ad. Will leave it then.

Jul 18th, 2007, 06:43 PM	#1
Amo MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2007 Local Time: 10:20 AM Posts: 42 Offline	Not sure what to do - help!! I ordered my Dooper in June. When I originally ordered it, I said to the salesman that I wanted the car in September. There were several reasons for me wanting the car then but obviously the new reg and the fuel saving gadgets were important factors. My dealer phoned me up today and has told me the car has now been 'approved for production' (not quite sure what that means), and that my car should be delivered in August. I asked if the car would have the new gadgets but he didn't know and I am waiting for him to get back to me, I get the impression that my build date is immovable now If it turns out that not only do i miss out on the new reg by a couple of weeks but the new fuel and emission stuff as well, i am strongly tempted to cancel my order and go elsewhere. I did ask for a september delivery and cant understand what they have now done it almost a month early when I didn't want them to. I just wanted to see if you guys had any advice or insight. Thanks

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Jul 18th, 2007, 06:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
James MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Essex Local Time: 10:20 AM Posts: 963 Offline	I think they probably assumed most people would want the car as soon as possible. If by gadgets you mean extras that you have paid for then they wont give you a car without them

Jul 18th, 2007, 06:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
Scrogg What's Next? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 10:20 AM Posts: 15,069 Offline	I can't answer the question about whether this particular car will have the revisions or not, sorry, but I can set your mind at ease about the '57' plate. Regardless of when the car is built and delivered to the dealer you are the customer and therefore you dictate when you take delivery. You told your dealer when you ordered the car that you wanted a September delivery, and that is what you will get. Most new cars arrive at dealerships a few weeks before the customers actually want them, so don't worry, this is perfectly normal.

Jul 18th, 2007, 06:49 PM	#4 (permalink)
Amo MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2007 Local Time: 10:20 AM Posts: 42 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Crammy (original) I think they probably assumed most people would want the car as soon as possible. If by gadgets you mean extras that you have paid for then they wont give you a car without them Fair enough, its just that they assumed wrong in this instance. Sorry, by gadgets I means the new fuel saving, regenerative breaks etc. stuff

Jul 18th, 2007, 06:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
Amo MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2007 Local Time: 10:20 AM Posts: 42 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original) I can't answer the question about whether this particular car will have the revisions or not, sorry, but I can set your mind at ease about the '57' plate. Regardless of when the car is built and delivered to the dealer you are the customer and therefore you dictate when you take delivery. You told your dealer when you ordered the car that you wanted a September delivery, and that is what you will get. Most new cars arrive at dealerships a few weeks before the customers actually want them, so don't worry, this is perfectly normal. Thank you Scrogg, that helps me a lot. At least I know I can ask for September delivery, the dealer didn't mention that fact at all when I said I would be disappointed not to get the 57 plate!!

Jul 18th, 2007, 09:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
andrewcregan Andrew ATC Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cheshire Local Time: 10:20 AM Posts: 626 Online	The new 08 model begins production in week 31, which is the week beginning the 30th of July. Obviously anything going through the factory before then will not have the fuel saving measures etc etc. My Dooper is being built in week 32 (from 6th August) and will be on a 57 plate - as arranged with my dealer. If you are concerned that you won't get the new 'gadgets' check the build week of the car - the dealer knows that for certain. If you thought you were buying the 08 model, I wouldn't accept anything less. A good dealer will help you out.

Jul 19th, 2007, 05:46 AM	#7 (permalink)
Amo MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2007 Local Time: 10:20 AM Posts: 42 Offline	Yes I though that was the week the mods were being introduced. Unfortunately my dealer doesn't appear to know when the car is being built, he just said it has been 'approved for production' which is why he is checking the dates and getting back to me. The 08 car is the car I wanted and, so I was led to believe the one I was ordering. I am tempted to cancel and go to another dealer if it isn't, which is a shame as I was really looking forward getting my first Mini!

Jul 19th, 2007, 09:34 AM	#8 (permalink)
andrewcregan Andrew ATC Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cheshire Local Time: 10:20 AM Posts: 626 Online	When I ordered my Dooper about 6 weeks ago, my dealer told me immeadiately what week it will be produced - he even showed it to me on the computer screen. I wanted a 08 model, and insisted on week 31 or later, and got week 32. Not exactly sure about this, but I think the car gets 'approved for production' about 10-14 days before it gets built. This would be right on the cusp of 07/08. Perhaps you will get the oldest 07 or first ever 08?

Jul 19th, 2007, 03:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
Amo MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2007 Local Time: 10:20 AM Posts: 42 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by andrewcregan (original) When I ordered my Dooper about 6 weeks ago, my dealer told me immeadiately what week it will be produced - he even showed it to me on the computer screen. I wanted a 08 model, and insisted on week 31 or later, and got week 32. Not exactly sure about this, but I think the car gets 'approved for production' about 10-14 days before it gets built. This would be right on the cusp of 07/08. Perhaps you will get the oldest 07 or first ever 08? Thanks for the info - I thought (from what I read here) the dealers knew what build date you will be, so thats why I am confused as to why me dealer knew nothing about it (or so he says) and why he was suprised that my build has been put forward. How very interesting.... It seems like my car will be right on the borderline between 07/08, I'll have to wait and see for the moment.

Jul 19th, 2007, 05:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
Amo MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2007 Local Time: 10:20 AM Posts: 42 Offline	Just heard - week 30 build And there's nothing to be done to cancel it - its 'my' car Apparently he doesn't remember me mentioning anything about the engine mods and brake stuff, otherwise they would have made sure it was wk 31 or later (my parents remember otherwise)!! He also tried to tell me that they have only known about the mods for two weeks, I told them I have known about it for two months and the official website was updated with the new stats about a week before i ordered my car. So I now have to phone the manager tomorrow to have a 'chat' about it. I am tempted to cancel my order and place it again and by the way I will also be claiming my deposit back as they gave me mis information when ordering the car (basically I was told to order it then and there - I wanted mid september and they said I 'd be waiting for october if I left it ). Everything was also quoted for september - finance, trade in etc. Its also not the bloomin car I ordered!! I am really dissappointed at the mo, I really don't want this experience to put me off MINIs but its hard not to

Jul 19th, 2007, 07:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
Scrogg What's Next? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 10:20 AM Posts: 15,069 Offline	How much deposit did you put down Amo?

Jul 19th, 2007, 07:25 PM	#13 (permalink)
Amo MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2007 Local Time: 10:20 AM Posts: 42 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original) How much deposit did you put down Amo? £500, so not a huge amount compared to the cost of the car.

Jul 19th, 2007, 07:28 PM	#14 (permalink)
Scrogg What's Next? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 10:20 AM Posts: 15,069 Offline	In which case, the answer to the potential 'loss of deposit' problem is simple... ...go to another dealer, and tell them the deal you've been offered by your current dealer, but add £500 to the part-exchange value. Tell them you'll buy the car if they match it

Jul 19th, 2007, 07:31 PM	#15 (permalink)
Amo MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2007 Local Time: 10:20 AM Posts: 42 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original) In which case, the answer to the potential 'loss of deposit' problem is simple... ...go to another dealer, and tell them the deal you've been offered by your current dealer, but add £500 to the part-exchange value. Tell them you'll buy the car if they match it Nice idea Scrogg !! Thats definately a back up plan!!

Jul 19th, 2007, 08:29 PM	#16 (permalink)
andrewcregan Andrew ATC Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cheshire Local Time: 10:20 AM Posts: 626 Online	When you speak to the Manager tomorrow, tell him you bought the car on the understanding it was a 08 model. Its not your fault the salesman made a mistake. You are dealing with a quality company, and remember the customer is always right! Let them correct the mistake that they made.

Jul 19th, 2007, 08:34 PM	#17 (permalink)
weeman1976 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Local Time: 10:20 AM Posts: 2 Offline	Sorry to post a totally unrelated reply here, but how in the name of GOD do I post a new thread in the Classifieds section, in order to sell a car?!?! I am close to tearing my hair out.

Jul 19th, 2007, 08:39 PM	#19 (permalink)
Scrogg What's Next? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 10:20 AM Posts: 15,069 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by weeman1976 (original) Sorry to post a totally unrelated reply here, but how in the name of GOD do I post a new thread in the Classifieds section, in order to sell a car?!?! I am close to tearing my hair out. You need to reach a certain number of posts before you can posts things like links or Classified Ads. It's an anti-spam thing!

Jul 19th, 2007, 08:43 PM	#20 (permalink)
weeman1976 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Local Time: 10:20 AM Posts: 2 Offline	Thank you ! I couldnt see the icon for posting a new ad. Will leave it then.

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