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Old Dec 15th, 2013, 06:25 PM
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Turbo intake seal

I'm asking for a bit of help from those in the know about these things please. The orange rubber seal that sits inside the inlet air pipe to the turbocharger on the compressor side on my Sep 2007 Dooper is shot, it's split 2/3 of the way around. The part that I got from BMW, selected by me and the parts fella looking at the MINI drawing is very different, it's labelled as a swirl generator, although it sits in the right place on those drawings and it fits perfectly into the intake pipe and onto the turbo on the car The part number from the orange seal doesn't show up on the BMW OEM site, but when Googled came up of a French Citroen forum discussing the turbo/intake seal on the Picasso1.6 HDi, same engine (well that's what I think they were talking about!). Is the swirl generator an upgraded part or do I need to source an orange seal from somewhere? Thanks in advance.
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Common problem. Very common.

No, it's not the swirl generator that you want, it's the Citroen part. Mini wants you to buy the entire intake piping section from the MAF to the turbo in order to get the little orange seal that is available here:

GENUINE CITROEN PEUGEOT 1.6HDI RUBBER TURBO SEAL ORANGE | eBay

I ordered mine through them. Then I replaced it and made a DIY for the replacement that you can follow here:

http://www.mini2.com/forum/mini-coop...urbo-seal.html


EDIT: I got curious about the swirl generator. Since my Mini is going in on Saturday for some work, I asked the dealership to order and install the swirl generator (not an expensive part). Apparently it is supposed to increase the turbocharger efficiency and decrease engine noise.

I'll update after the install.



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I'm asking for a bit of help from those in the know about these things please. The orange rubber seal that sits inside the inlet air pipe to the turbocharger on the compressor side on my Sep 2007 Dooper is shot, it's split 2/3 of the way around. The part that I got from BMW, selected by me and the parts fella looking at the MINI drawing is very different, it's labelled as a swirl generator, although it sits in the right place on those drawings and it fits perfectly into the intake pipe and onto the turbo on the car The part number from the orange seal doesn't show up on the BMW OEM site, but when Googled came up of a French Citroen forum discussing the turbo/intake seal on the Picasso1.6 HDi, same engine (well that's what I think they were talking about!). Is the swirl generator an upgraded part or do I need to source an orange seal from somewhere? Thanks in advance.


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Thanks MiniDelux, orange seal on it's way! I'll be interested to see what you think about the swirl generator. Cheers JTC
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Okay, as promised I had the swirl generator installed today. I confirmed with the service tech that it's an upgraded part for the orange seal. It's made of a much harder plastic material. It's quite rigid, almost like a rigid kind of silicon. However, the fins are flexible and change angle with airflow. It's supposed to generate a swirl/vortex in the air that increases the momentum of the compressor vanes, thereby increasing turbo efficiency. It's quite sturdy so I have very little fear of anything breaking off and being ingested by the turbo.

It's supposed to improve turbocharger efficiency/performance and produce a quieter engine. I've driven about 75km with it today, various ups and downs, highway, etc... First impression is that it does increase the response of the car a little bit and definitely there is an increase in the pull in the lower revs. Not much difference in the higher end range I would say. Nothing major but for the price you can't go wrong.

Also, engine is quite noisy by nature, but I have to say it's slightly quieter under full acceleration. Not much, but definitely a little.

Probably the best bit is that I was charged €2.45 for the part and it is sold separately from the intake piping making replacement a cinch. It seems to grip the turbo inlet better than the orange rubber as well. I expect that it won't lead to the notorious splitting issue with the current orange seals.

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Part number is: 13 71 7 807 061
Part name (in German) is: Drallerzeuger (even sounds cool!). English name is "swirl generator".
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That swirl valve part number is for an R55 Mini.
Is there an equivalent part number for the R56, or is it the same?
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That swirl valve part number is for an R55 Mini.
Is there an equivalent part number for the R56, or is it the same?

RealOEM - Part 13717807061 Cross-reference
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Think it's strictly for diesel engine coopers. However, an R56 with the PSA diesel engine will take the same part.
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Think it's strictly for diesel engine coopers. However, an R56 with the PSA diesel engine will take the same part.

Sorry, this has confused me.
I have a diesel engine Cooper.
Should I not use the model code R56?
Can anyone send me a link for where I can buy one in UK/Europe?
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Sorry for any confusion. The part will fit your diesel engine Cooper. The model code is irrelevant and the swirl generator with the above part number will fit both R55 and R56 Mini's.

I ordered mine through an authorized dealer. I have not seem them available on the internet. Took 1 or 2 days for the dealer to get it and cost me just under 3 euros. Installing it is really easy.
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