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2008 1.6 CooperD - advice?

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I am looking at buying my second car soon. This is mostly for my small business, with some personal use. It's an A-to-B so needs to be reliable etc. I currently drive a Polo which although is towards the end of it's life has been trouble free and very good.

I have never owned a mini, know very little about them. Realistically a CooperD around 2008 is what I can afford. To say around £6K. Many are high miles. I see some at 60-70k, which I'd be okay with I think. I've read reviews and they seem like good cars, well made, reliable etc. I'm just wondering if there is anything I should look for or be aware of with this model and age? And a random q. Was stop start introduced after 2008?

The other option is a 2010 Fabia with the similar engine. I guess I "trust" the idea of the Fabia more as it's basically the Poloi drive. But would probably prefer the drive/comfort/handling of the mini. It seems a little more refined, but maybe I wrong...

Thoughts very welcome and appreciated!
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Old Mar 1st, 2014, 07:49 PM
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I have. 2010 Dooper Convertible and I love it, it wasn't cheap to buy but it is cheap to run with £20 a year car tax and I get about 60 - 64 mpg on my usual 25 mile commute, A roads doing 50 then a quick 3 mile blast on the dual carriageway.

I drive down to London on a regular basis and Once I am on the M11 I stick the cruise control on at 70mph and I manage about 60mpg.

I did have a Corsa SXI diesel which I passed on to my daughter and I loved that car too, still do when I drive it but the MINI is just something else. Have a test drive and you will be hooked.

Not sure about the start stop on a 2008 model though.
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Thank you sir!

I actually hadn't thought about anything like a Corsa or Fiesta. I guess back when I bought my last car I ruled them out for safety and reliability issues (a long while ago).

Nothing to look for in particular then?

I would obviously look for the basics, that it has full service history, and that it appears to have been looked after etc. No faults etc. No issues with turbos, gearboxes etc? I've read the parkers review and nothing is really noted in this area, but I thought you guys at mini2.com might have more info )

I could probably spend a touch more. But 2008 seems realistic.

Do you have any feedback re: cost of servicing / maintenance in the UK? I will be assuming the one I buy won't have any TLC package still built in.
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I can't say I have had any problems,mothers may be able to comment on that. Mine has the 5 year TLC so so far no expenses with servicing. I did need some new brake pads and the Cooper garage wanted £300 to replace front and rear, I did however get them done locally where I get my tyres and they charged £220 and that included new rear disks, I don't think that was too bad. Tyres are £90 a pop but I expected that when I got it.
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Some relatively minor things come to mind.

1. Check where the air intake piping joins the turbo inlet for an orange rubber seal. They tend to crack/split over time and can now be replaced with an uprated part called a swirl generator. The plastic is more robust an much less prone to cracking/splitting. Split seals can cause driveability issues.

2. Ask them to have the EGR cleaned. Pretty simple to do, sits down the back of the engine and relatively easy to remove and clean.

3. Check when the diesel additive (eolys fluid) was refilled, if ever. Usually needs refilling around 130,000km.

4. Check for any evidence of black soot near the turbocharger oil feed line. This usually occurs due to a loose exhaust clamp under the heat shielding.

Not much else to look for, really. The 1.6 PSA engine tends to be pretty robust, is easy on fuel and not at all a problem to start in the cold (has turned over for me on the first try in -15°C weather).

I have a 2009 Clubman D (1.6L) with stop/start and am at 120k with no major issues.

Nice little motor that's easy to work on and DIY. Very reliable!


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Thank you sir!

I actually hadn't thought about anything like a Corsa or Fiesta. I guess back when I bought my last car I ruled them out for safety and reliability issues (a long while ago).

Nothing to look for in particular then?

I would obviously look for the basics, that it has full service history, and that it appears to have been looked after etc. No faults etc. No issues with turbos, gearboxes etc? I've read the parkers review and nothing is really noted in this area, but I thought you guys at mini2.com might have more info )

I could probably spend a touch more. But 2008 seems realistic.

Do you have any feedback re: cost of servicing / maintenance in the UK? I will be assuming the one I buy won't have any TLC package still built in.

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I bought a 2009 Mini Cooper D, with pretty fantastic spec (it has pretty much every option you could get, including heated front screen etc)
I'm loving it, it's just so much more fun than the Fiesta/Polo/Skoda alternatives.
The handling makes me giggle, you have to recalibrate your brain to accept you can actually attack a corner at the speeds you can, and I used to own an Alpina BMW!
I've ditched the runflats, gone to normal tyres, which made a hude difference to noise and comfort.
I've also replaced the rubber turbo seal (dead easy and £9 off ebay)
A knocking noise from the rear suspension was fixed (dead easy repair and £12 off ebay)
No reliability issues, no build quality issues, good mpg.
The only thing I would say is that whilst the seats are comfy, it's not a 'comfy car' per se.
On runflats, the ride is a joke.
On normal tyres, it's better, but it's still very stiff and some bumps can make you cringe.
I have 17" alloys on mine though.
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Orange seal can now be replaced with an uprated part from BMW, a "swirl generator". Much more robust than that piece of orange rubber. Cost is about €2 and is sold separately from the intake piping.

See the thread here:

http://www.mini2.com/forum/mini-coop...take-seal.html
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[quote=MiniDeLux;3922626]Orange seal can now be replaced with an uprated part from BMW, a "swirl generator". Much more robust than that piece of orange rubber. Cost is about €2 and is sold separately from the intake piping.
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Try buying one though!
I tried, I couldn't find any online seller at all.
I could use my dealer, but that means driving miles across town.
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Yes, is a dealer only part and not available online.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Mid Life Mini (original)
I can't say I have had any problems,mothers may be able to comment on that. Mine has the 5 year TLC so so far no expenses with servicing. I did need some new brake pads and the Cooper garage wanted £300 to replace front and rear, I did however get them done locally where I get my tyres and they charged £220 and that included new rear disks, I don't think that was too bad. Tyres are £90 a pop but I expected that when I got it.

Is £90 a pop for the run flat tyres? (not actually sure what these are...)

I guess that's okay if I'm prepared. I would just have to be extra careful at times, eg: on terrible country roads.
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Thank you! BTW, I wanted to note my delayed response to this thread was because I didn't get any notifications... sorry about that. Only just checked back now.

Good to have a general impression and specific things to look for, thank you.

Quote: Originally Posted by MiniDeLux (original)
Some relatively minor things come to mind.

1. Check where the air intake piping joins the turbo inlet for an orange rubber seal. They tend to crack/split over time and can now be replaced with an uprated part called a swirl generator. The plastic is more robust an much less prone to cracking/splitting. Split seals can cause driveability issues.

2. Ask them to have the EGR cleaned. Pretty simple to do, sits down the back of the engine and relatively easy to remove and clean.

3. Check when the diesel additive (eolys fluid) was refilled, if ever. Usually needs refilling around 130,000km.

4. Check for any evidence of black soot near the turbocharger oil feed line. This usually occurs due to a loose exhaust clamp under the heat shielding.

Not much else to look for, really. The 1.6 PSA engine tends to be pretty robust, is easy on fuel and not at all a problem to start in the cold (has turned over for me on the first try in -15°C weather).

I have a 2009 Clubman D (1.6L) with stop/start and am at 120k with no major issues.

Nice little motor that's easy to work on and DIY. Very reliable!

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Quote: Originally Posted by NightfireCooper (original)
I bought a 2009 Mini Cooper D, with pretty fantastic spec (it has pretty much every option you could get, including heated front screen etc)
I'm loving it, it's just so much more fun than the Fiesta/Polo/Skoda alternatives.
The handling makes me giggle, you have to recalibrate your brain to accept you can actually attack a corner at the speeds you can, and I used to own an Alpina BMW!
I've ditched the runflats, gone to normal tyres, which made a hude difference to noise and comfort.
I've also replaced the rubber turbo seal (dead easy and £9 off ebay)
A knocking noise from the rear suspension was fixed (dead easy repair and £12 off ebay)
No reliability issues, no build quality issues, good mpg.
The only thing I would say is that whilst the seats are comfy, it's not a 'comfy car' per se.
On runflats, the ride is a joke.
On normal tyres, it's better, but it's still very stiff and some bumps can make you cringe.
I have 17" alloys on mine though.

Thanks for the impressions, good to know. BTW, is there any trick for finding one with good spec? It seems to have a HUGE challenge . I look for "pepper pack" or "chilli pack" but they're all still so different in spec.

Good to know that rubber seal mentioned before on the turbo is easily replaced... you actually did this yourself?

I'll note the run flats. I'll try to get "normal" tyres, or just replace them. Any fears with buying one with higher miles? I was ideally looking for one with 50-65K on it, but may have to get one with a little more on the clock.
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[quote=MiniDeLux;3922626]Orange seal can now be replaced with an uprated part from BMW, a "swirl generator". Much more robust than that piece of orange rubber. Cost is about €2 and is sold separately from the intake piping.

See the thread here:

Thank you for that. Not sure I could do this myself though... I wonder how much labor / how long it would take a garage?
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Any tips for how to find a Dooper with the spec I'd like? Apart from scrolling through and making my eyes bleed

I'd prefer one with:

Part leather or full leather
Stop-start
6 speed (standard?)
Air-con (apparently not always standard!)
Less than 70K on the clock?
2008-2010

Bluetooth, heated seats, cruise control would be a nice bonus...
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For piece of mind get a new POLO, stick with what you know or a VW UP theyre quite good value, my neighbour has one, really nice it is too.
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