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Figarro · Apr 6th, 2006, 08:33 AM

Hey, I got a problem. I bought in 2003 Mini Cooper S but I trade it and now I have Subaru Impreza WRX 2005/ 2.0 /246hp . Now my dealer offers to me a new Cooper S or Cooper S JWC .. so what do you think should I trade my WRX or not?? I like a lot my AWD WRX
but somehow miss my old Cooper S.
Figarro

Capsaisin · Apr 6th, 2006, 10:55 AM

First thing you do (if possible) is to imagine what both cars are like without the performance aspects. So, which do you prefer to drive because of features, comfort, size, handling etc. This should help you decide which car you really like. The fact you are even asking this question suggests you would like someone to tell you to get a mini!!!!

If you decide the mini is the one for you, get the MCS JCW for the increase in performance. If you need more power you could consider the MTH ecu update which I am led to believe delivers 230 bhp on the JCW. This may cause you warranty issues with your dealer (ask him first) , but it is a relatively cheap and very easy way to get a little extra power.

LMB · Apr 6th, 2006, 10:56 AM

Go for the Mini.

It's classier.

astallc · Apr 6th, 2006, 11:03 AM

Cooper S JCW most definitely.....great car to drive.....much better interior than WRX and much more subtle.

Mini Soph · Apr 6th, 2006, 11:05 AM

Wrx!!

insane*mini · Apr 6th, 2006, 11:08 AM

Mini!

bards · Apr 6th, 2006, 11:18 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Figarro

Hey, I got a problem. I bought in 2003 Mini Cooper S but I trade it and now I have Subaru Impreza WRX 2005/ 2.0 /246hp . Now my dealer offers to me a new Cooper S or Cooper S JWC .. so what do you think should I trade my WRX or not?? I like a lot my AWD WRX
but somehow miss my old Cooper S.
Figarro

Id say cooper s works

my mate called round lastnight in his new jcw s with leather recaros, was really impressed

subaru's are addictive for their characterful engine note and power delivery

but I think you get bored of just going fast everywhere! Plus i dont think they are much quicker than a well sorted s, followed a new standard STI into work today, and was surprised that it didnt pull away from mine that much!

Ven0m · Apr 6th, 2006, 11:21 AM

Depends if your after tuning either cars up,obviously the scooby will achieve much higher BHP and a lot cheaper too,better handling and acceleration,but interior is rather bland.

:: Jon :: · Apr 6th, 2006, 11:28 AM

JCW all the way

St00ge · Apr 6th, 2006, 11:38 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ven0m

Depends if your after tuning either cars up,obviously the scooby will achieve much higher BHP and a lot cheaper too,better handling and acceleration,but interior is rather bland.

well it grips much harder, but i reckoned that the steering feel is pants compared to my S. Too light, too assisted

doona · Apr 6th, 2006, 11:42 AM

One reason to get the MINI.... the interior of the WRX is just awful.... I cannot believe Subaru cannot do any better than that.

-Dan

Ven0m · Apr 6th, 2006, 11:44 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by etalj

well it grips much harder, but i reckoned that the steering feel is pants compared to my S. Too light, too assisted

Yup agree,but in the scoob i could corner a lot harder and faster than i could ever dream of in the mcs

St00ge · Apr 6th, 2006, 11:50 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by doona

One reason to get the MINI.... the interior of the WRX is just awful.... I cannot believe Subaru cannot do any better than that.

-Dan

well i guess it keeps costs down, as the value for money is pretty good. 45k on the road and you get a car that does sub-6 secs to 100kph....

but yeh as venom said the WRX grips like hell, and you can do stupid speeds around corners, but it's not all about grip, not for me anyway

Ven0m · Apr 6th, 2006, 11:54 AM

45k?????

St00ge · Apr 6th, 2006, 11:57 AM

oh sorry, i forgot you were british

45k AUD, so i think that's probably about 18-19k GBP?

ButtonIt · Apr 6th, 2006, 11:58 AM

Aussie dollars

Ven0m · Apr 6th, 2006, 11:58 AM

LoooooL stupid me....i nearly fainted

St00ge · Apr 6th, 2006, 12:01 PM

nah my fault there....

Ven0m · Apr 6th, 2006, 12:07 PM

Don't get me wrong i love my MCS,lovely looking car inside and out,but if i had a choice between both i would always choose the scoob,just a different animal

Vitesse · Apr 6th, 2006, 12:09 PM

I had little match up with a WRX in my Works down the straightest road, you could ever imagine, so I don't think you could even blame bad driving? Initially I thought he was going to pull away, but I stayed with him up to about 60-70mph and eventually cruised past him quite easily at about 100mph, he looked slightly shocked! The Works seemed quicker from 60 to 100 than the WRX.

I think it would have been a different story if it had been an STI though, this was one of the newer shape ones, the blue colour a bit like Hyper Blue, with Gold Wheels, there again he could have been a rubbish driver.

Apr 6th, 2006, 08:33 AM	#1
Figarro MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Helsinki Local Time: 01:00 PM Posts: 17 Offline	New Cooper S (JCW) or Impreza WRX 2.0 Hey, I got a problem. I bought in 2003 Mini Cooper S but I trade it and now I have Subaru Impreza WRX 2005/ 2.0 /246hp . Now my dealer offers to me a new Cooper S or Cooper S JWC .. so what do you think should I trade my WRX or not?? I like a lot my AWD WRX but somehow miss my old Cooper S. Figarro

Apr 6th, 2006, 10:55 AM	#2 (permalink)
Capsaisin cave capsicum Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Crewe Local Time: 02:00 PM Posts: 3,366 Offline	Decisions, decisions.... First thing you do (if possible) is to imagine what both cars are like without the performance aspects. So, which do you prefer to drive because of features, comfort, size, handling etc. This should help you decide which car you really like. The fact you are even asking this question suggests you would like someone to tell you to get a mini!!!! If you decide the mini is the one for you, get the MCS JCW for the increase in performance. If you need more power you could consider the MTH ecu update which I am led to believe delivers 230 bhp on the JCW. This may cause you warranty issues with your dealer (ask him first) , but it is a relatively cheap and very easy way to get a little extra power.

Apr 6th, 2006, 10:56 AM	#3 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 02:00 PM Posts: 24,928 Offline	Go for the Mini. It's classier. Global Moderator

Apr 6th, 2006, 11:03 AM	#4 (permalink)
astallc Chris Astall Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London Local Time: 02:00 PM Posts: 1 Offline	Mini most definitely Cooper S JCW most definitely.....great car to drive.....much better interior than WRX and much more subtle. Chris Astall (astall.com and kidkandy.com)

Apr 6th, 2006, 11:05 AM	#5 (permalink)
Mini Soph Fastest feet in the west Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Wiltshire/Hampshire Local Time: 01:00 PM Posts: 551 Offline	Wrx!! http://www.sophiefisher.co.uk

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Apr 6th, 2006, 11:18 AM	#7 (permalink)
bards Clio 197 R27 My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: West Yorkshire Local Time: 02:00 PM Posts: 2,284 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Figarro Hey, I got a problem. I bought in 2003 Mini Cooper S but I trade it and now I have Subaru Impreza WRX 2005/ 2.0 /246hp . Now my dealer offers to me a new Cooper S or Cooper S JWC .. so what do you think should I trade my WRX or not?? I like a lot my AWD WRX but somehow miss my old Cooper S. Figarro Id say cooper s works my mate called round lastnight in his new jcw s with leather recaros, was really impressed subaru's are addictive for their characterful engine note and power delivery but I think you get bored of just going fast everywhere! Plus i dont think they are much quicker than a well sorted s, followed a new standard STI into work today, and was surprised that it didnt pull away from mine that much! flickr :: You Tube

Apr 6th, 2006, 11:21 AM	#8 (permalink)
Ven0m MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bracknell Local Time: 02:00 PM Posts: 128 Offline	Depends if your after tuning either cars up,obviously the scooby will achieve much higher BHP and a lot cheaper too,better handling and acceleration,but interior is rather bland.

Apr 6th, 2006, 11:28 AM	#9 (permalink)
:: Jon :: . My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2003 Local Time: 02:00 PM Posts: 15,109 Offline	JCW all the way EMPTY SPACE NEEDS FILLING.... but it has to be something that wont get me banned

Apr 6th, 2006, 11:38 AM	#10 (permalink)
St00ge 8/10 on the Stoogometer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 11:00 PM Posts: 2,864 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Ven0m Depends if your after tuning either cars up,obviously the scooby will achieve much higher BHP and a lot cheaper too,better handling and acceleration,but interior is rather bland. well it grips much harder, but i reckoned that the steering feel is pants compared to my S. Too light, too assisted Black MCS

Apr 6th, 2006, 11:42 AM	#11 (permalink)
doona ......... Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Local Time: 11:00 PM Posts: 2,819 Offline	One reason to get the MINI.... the interior of the WRX is just awful.... I cannot believe Subaru cannot do any better than that. -Dan

Apr 6th, 2006, 11:44 AM	#12 (permalink)
Ven0m MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bracknell Local Time: 02:00 PM Posts: 128 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by etalj well it grips much harder, but i reckoned that the steering feel is pants compared to my S. Too light, too assisted Yup agree,but in the scoob i could corner a lot harder and faster than i could ever dream of in the mcs

Apr 6th, 2006, 11:50 AM	#13 (permalink)
St00ge 8/10 on the Stoogometer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 11:00 PM Posts: 2,864 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by doona One reason to get the MINI.... the interior of the WRX is just awful.... I cannot believe Subaru cannot do any better than that. -Dan well i guess it keeps costs down, as the value for money is pretty good. 45k on the road and you get a car that does sub-6 secs to 100kph.... but yeh as venom said the WRX grips like hell, and you can do stupid speeds around corners, but it's not all about grip, not for me anyway Black MCS

Apr 6th, 2006, 11:54 AM	#14 (permalink)
Ven0m MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bracknell Local Time: 02:00 PM Posts: 128 Offline	45k?????

Apr 6th, 2006, 11:57 AM	#15 (permalink)
St00ge 8/10 on the Stoogometer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 11:00 PM Posts: 2,864 Offline	oh sorry, i forgot you were british 45k AUD, so i think that's probably about 18-19k GBP? Black MCS

Apr 6th, 2006, 11:58 AM	#16 (permalink)
ButtonIt The Disorganiser My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Waiting for others Local Time: 02:00 PM Posts: 15,546 Offline	Aussie dollars

Apr 6th, 2006, 11:58 AM	#17 (permalink)
Ven0m MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bracknell Local Time: 02:00 PM Posts: 128 Offline	LoooooL stupid me....i nearly fainted

Apr 6th, 2006, 12:01 PM	#18 (permalink)
St00ge 8/10 on the Stoogometer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 11:00 PM Posts: 2,864 Offline	nah my fault there.... Black MCS

Apr 6th, 2006, 12:07 PM	#19 (permalink)
Ven0m MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bracknell Local Time: 02:00 PM Posts: 128 Offline	Don't get me wrong i love my MCS,lovely looking car inside and out,but if i had a choice between both i would always choose the scoob,just a different animal

Apr 6th, 2006, 12:09 PM	#20 (permalink)
Vitesse MINI2 Senior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Westerham Local Time: 02:00 PM Posts: 685 Offline	I had little match up with a WRX in my Works down the straightest road, you could ever imagine, so I don't think you could even blame bad driving? Initially I thought he was going to pull away, but I stayed with him up to about 60-70mph and eventually cruised past him quite easily at about 100mph, he looked slightly shocked! The Works seemed quicker from 60 to 100 than the WRX. I think it would have been a different story if it had been an STI though, this was one of the newer shape ones, the blue colour a bit like Hyper Blue, with Gold Wheels, there again he could have been a rubbish driver.

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