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Old Jul 13th, 2006, 08:45 PM   #1
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England What mod's improve MCS MPG?

Has anyone experimented with modifications to improve the MCS MPG?

e.g. Air Filters, Spark Plugs, Fuel Magnets, Air Vortex intakes or anything else.

Just interested in what works and what does not work.

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PS Serious answers please

Has anyone got anything productive to say? Please
Why can I not have a MCS and want it slightly more economical, is it a crime?

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Old Jul 13th, 2006, 08:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old Jul 13th, 2006, 08:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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the works kit did it for me got 3mpg more

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Old Jul 13th, 2006, 09:00 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old Jul 13th, 2006, 09:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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If you want good economy get a Cooper, One or Diesel!!! My MPG has gone from around 35 to 38 in my Cooper convertible to 23 to 29 in my Cooper S convertible. It is made to be driven, just have to live with the expense!
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Old Jul 13th, 2006, 09:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Put a brick under the accelerator pedal ??
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Old Jul 14th, 2006, 01:15 AM   #7 (permalink)
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correct tyre pressures, windows not being open, removal of any non essential weight (bags, coats etc.), half filling your fuel tank (a full tank weighs more)

Oh, and adopting the system of driving (as used in advanced driving). Basically, don't stop and start and stop and start, try to coast and keep your distance from the car infront then you will only use just enough power to keep moving, instead of wasting it through braking.

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Old Jul 14th, 2006, 03:54 AM   #8 (permalink)
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the works kit did it for me got 3mpg more

You got BETTER mileage with the works kit? Everything I've heard suggests that mileage takes a nosedive with it fitted! Did you have it installed at the factory or afterwards?
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Old Jul 14th, 2006, 05:58 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I have the Works 210 kit and regulary return 34/36 mpg Driven hard it drops to 23/24but driven sensibly good mpg returns are poss. Prior to the kit being fitted it was 28/30mpg But if economy is your want get a one or a deisel.

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Driven really hard it has been as low as 7 to 9 mpg

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Old Jul 14th, 2006, 06:43 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Old Jul 14th, 2006, 09:30 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Any really good tuning job can improve fuel economy - suggest a 220bhp GTT conversion. Because the car has a much higher state of tune, it can be made to use fuel more economically..... this is perfectly true, until you start actually using the extra power in earnest.

A Wks conversion will probably see your car return 1-2 mpg fuel econmomy when you are driving very very sensibly. However, the minute you start to enjoy your conversion, fuel economy drops through the floor.

But this can be used legally a a justification method to explain your £3500 bill to your wife....


There is a school of thought that says you push your car hard to attain its desired speed, rather than pootle around, then get into top gear asap. Its better than making the car labour in inappropriate gears. 'Lazy' driving can be detrimental to fuel economy.

Cruise contorl can be very bad for fuel economy, especially on Briitsh roads. Theres too much stop/start on the motorways, too many hills and dips, none of which cruise control can take account for. So it ends up backing off just before a hill and then bogging down. Cruise is fine if you live where the roads are straight and level, like the states or somewhere.

I wouldnt be surprised if a decent large aftermarket intercooler would help fuel economy in the summer. But youd have to drive an awful long way to save the £400 in fuel...

The other thing you can do is run your car on the cheapest fuel. A standard MCS will be fine on 95 ron tesco fuel, which will save you 7p a litre.... thats whats impotant after all.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tonyt3
....tesco fuel, which will save you 7p a litre.... thats whats impotant after all.


Urgh - absolutely not - what is important is driving your mini like it is stolen !!!



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Like TOny says above GTT 220 conversion, this has added 50+ miles to my range on a motorway trip. But use the power you have gained be warned I have had sub 160mls on a tank on UK roads
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Hi, Not long had my MCS, no mods, just a light foot (running in) Just covered 300 miles and computer says 133 miles left in tank. .
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Old Jul 14th, 2006, 10:11 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Has anyone got anything productive to say? Please
Why can I not have a MCS and want it slightly more economical, is it a crime?
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Has anyone got anything productive to say? Please
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ypur flogging a dead horse with this one mate. Its a pretty uneconomical car in terms of MPG, the only way to get better out of it is to drive close to the optimum speeds for fuel economy. Thats basically lowest revs so highest gear, and stick to all the speed limits. Dropping from 70mph on a motorway journey down to 60 will improve your fuel figures, but you'd also die of boredom.

There is no 'magic' answer.

Probably the single most effective thing I could think of would be to fit some very lightweight wheels and tyres, and keep them 'skinny'.... as in not wide tread - 180 or 185 width. Keep them inflated to at least 35lbs. its going to be more productive than some dodgy additive or magic airfilter. Also, keep weight down in the car.
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Dinan modifications work wonders

I have installed a Dinan pulley, fuel management system, software, exhaust and air intake. Running at Interstate speeds of 70 to 80 mph, the computer shows a consistant 38 to 39 mpg. Previously it showed 33 to 34. My experience is the computer is overly optimistic but there has been a marked improvement....plus the car is a totally different car performance wise. It is great.

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Lets look at it another way. If economy is your gaol buy something else.

Examples

Average 12000 miles per year at 30mpg = 400gls @ £4.31/gal = £1724.00

Average 12000 miles per year @ 33mpg = 364gls @ £4.31/gal = £1568.84

Equals a saving of £155.16
It seems generally agreed that modifying your engine equates to better fuel consumption. On average 2 to 3mpg.
Costs of a tuning kit vary tremendously but for the sake of this argument we will take the JCW kit @ approx £3500 fitted. Think you can see where I am going.



Fuel savings of 155.16 for better fuel economy minus cost of getting it i.e. £3500 equals minus £3344.84
To get your money back would take at least 21+ years.
Even with one of the cheapest kits you will take a few years.
So if you are worried about fuel costs ect we are back to the first statement.
Just my take on the situation

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