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Biglad_UK · Jun 28th, 2007, 10:21 AM

Hi Guys,

Been reading alot. There's loads of good stuff here.

Just wanted a straight answer to three simple questions

I'm looking at paying £15k for an Astra Black 2006 ( May 2006 ) MCS with Leather / Chili / Darkened Glass / Panaramic Roof / MFSW / Visibilty Pack / 17" Bullets with 11k on the clock

My questions

1, What is in the Visibility Pack ( I've searched and read and believe its Auto Lights/Wipers and Heated screen but wanted confirmation )
2, What is included in the Chili pack ( Again I've searched but not found a conclusive agreed list )
3, Does this look like a good deal from a Main Dealer ?

Thanks

Si

Andy P · Jun 28th, 2007, 10:49 AM

Visibility Pack is Auto dimmer rear view mirror/heated screen-washer jets/ auto lights and heated mirrors

Scrogg · Jun 28th, 2007, 11:01 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Andy P (original)

Visibility Pack is Auto dimmer rear view mirror/heated screen-washer jets/ auto lights and heated mirrors

Close!

The Visibility Pack was:

Auto-Dimming Rear View Mirror
Auto Headlights
Heated Front Windscreen
Rain Sensing Front Wipers

The Heated Door Mirrors & Washerjets was a stand-alone option, not part of the Visibility Pack.

The CHILI Pack was:

17" Alloy Wheels
3-Spoke Sports Leather Steering Wheel
Air Conditioning
Floor Mats
Front Fog Lights
Interior Lights Pack
Limited-Slip Differential
On-Board Computer
Part-Leather Upholstery
Passenger Seat Height Adjust
Storage Compartment Pack
Xenon Headlights

Tigger, Eeyore & Roo · Jun 28th, 2007, 11:06 AM

Don't forget the Limited Slip Diff (LSD) as part of the Chili Pack Scrogg

Seems a fair price to me. Is it full leather, or just half leather?

Go for it! It's one of the last of its kind

Tigger.

ItHurts · Jun 28th, 2007, 11:09 AM

As for the good deal from Main dealer - best bet is to sanity check against similar specced cars on the Mini cherished site:

MINI Cherished.co.uk

You can go in to advanced search and specify (most of) the options.

Welcome to the club!

Biglad_UK · Jun 28th, 2007, 01:04 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tigger, Eeyore & Roo (original)

Don't forget the Limited Slip Diff (LSD) as part of the Chili Pack Scrogg

Seems a fair price to me. Is it full leather, or just half leather?

Go for it! It's one of the last of its kind

Tigger.

Full Leather. Gravity Panther Black

Si

Biglad_UK · Jun 28th, 2007, 01:06 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ItHurts (original)

As for the good deal from Main dealer - best bet is to sanity check against similar specced cars on the Mini cherished site:

You can go in to advanced search and specify (most of) the options.

Welcome to the club!

Being doing that for the past few days and also Autotrader/ Classifieds here/ Ebay and Pistonheads.

Prices are so random thats its hard to be sure it's good or bad price so I though I'd ask you "experts"

FunFindus · Jun 28th, 2007, 01:22 PM

I think its an excellent spec the right colour exterior and interior and well it is a supercharged one. £15K isnt a bargain, but it is fair price from a dealer. However, be prepared for it to be worth £9K to £10K once its 3 years old. I just feel selling an old model on will be difficult.

I bought a 2005 Aug '05 with Function steering, heated seats, chilli pack, sunroof, 6cd, lsd but half leather, chrome in/out and 17" bullet wheels with 13K miles for £12,250. But I bought it privately and they wanted a quick sale. I bought it in May 2007

Biglad_UK · Jun 28th, 2007, 01:30 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by FunFindus (original)

I think its an excellent spec the right colour exterior and interior and well it is a supercharged one. £15K isnt a bargain, but it is fair price from a dealer. However, be prepared for it to be worth £9K to £10K once its 3 years old. I just feel selling an old model on will be difficult.

I bought a 2005 Aug '05 with Function steering, heated seats, chilli pack, sunroof, 6cd, lsd but half leather and 17" bullet wheels with 13K miles for £12,250. But I bought it privately and they wanted a quick sale. I bought it in May 2007

TBF, thats nearly a year older. The only ones I could find that even came close to the age of this new one were £14k+ which as a percentage is very very close.

Maybe not a bargin but defo a good deal.

I assume your saying once it's three years old it will be worth £9 to £10 cause of the R56 ? Three year only Cooper S's are currenty fetching £13k and up words.

You saying yours wil lose £2.25k to £3.25k over the space of a year ?

I though from looking round this cars held there value very well ?

Si

FunFindus · Jun 28th, 2007, 02:09 PM

I just think future depreciation values wil accelarate as the R53 becomes more of a historic buy and more R56s start hitting the 2nd hand market.

I saw a late 53 Cooper S with Chilli for £10750 from a dealer. Heaven knows what the customer got on his trade in.

Biglad_UK · Jun 28th, 2007, 02:11 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by FunFindus (original)

I just think future depreciation values wil accelarate as the R53 becomes more of a historic buy and more R56s start hitting the 2nd hand market.

I saw a late 53 Cooper S with Chilli for £10750 from a dealer. Heaven knows what the customer got on his trade in.

NO WAY.....£10750.

What's that, a mini dealer ?

Si

FunFindus · Jun 28th, 2007, 02:15 PM

No it wasnt a mini dealer it was Adsheads near Wigan/Bolton. They have another one there too but i think its a bit newer

Adsheads - Used Cars for Westhoughton Used Car Sales Dealer Lancashire

Biglad_UK · Jun 28th, 2007, 02:18 PM

This is one of the cheapest ones on Mini's website

MINI Cherished

53 Plate ( Oct 2003 ) so nearly 4 years old and £10495. If you use the rule of thumb that mini dealers add £1500 the that has a 4 year old Cooper S with Chili for £9k.
Si

FunFindus · Jun 28th, 2007, 02:28 PM

Yeah at the end of the day youve found a car you like, you have £15K in your back pocket and sure enough you will enjoy it.

It will be a nice car.

Biglad_UK · Jun 28th, 2007, 02:30 PM

Thanks.

I hope so

Haven't seen it yet, won't see it until it's delivered

Si

Tigger, Eeyore & Roo · Jun 28th, 2007, 02:31 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by FunFindus (original)

I saw a late 53 Cooper S with Chilli for £10750 from a dealer. Heaven knows what the customer got on his trade in.

Just to put this in perspective for a moment, this car is 3 years older, of unknown miles and condition and is £4,250 less. This is not unreasonable. The price of £15,000 for the June '06 car may not be a bargain, but it's pretty fair.

Biglad_UK · Jun 28th, 2007, 02:33 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tigger, Eeyore & Roo (original)

Just to put this in perspective for a moment, this car is 3 years older, of unknown miles and condition and is £4,250 less. This is not unreasonable. The price of £15,000 for the June '06 car may not be a bargain, but it's pretty fair.

Yeah agreed.

I'm happy

Si

FunFindus · Jun 28th, 2007, 02:38 PM

yeah true, never quite thought of it that way.

JAMIE1131 · Jun 28th, 2007, 07:10 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by FunFindus (original)

I just think future depreciation values wil accelarate as the R53 becomes more of a historic buy and more R56s start hitting the 2nd hand market.

I saw a late 53 Cooper S with Chilli for £10750 from a dealer. Heaven knows what the customer got on his trade in.

Wasn't mine by any chance! My 53 plate MCS has pretty well the same spec as the one mentioned here, including full leather panoramic sunroof etc. I bought it at exactly 3 years old as a cherished MINI from Sytner. It cost me the grand total of £10450!

Biglad_UK · Jun 28th, 2007, 09:05 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by JAMIE1131 (original)

Wasn't mine by any chance! My 53 plate MCS has pretty well the same spec as the one mentioned here, including full leather panoramic sunroof etc. I bought it at exactly 3 years old as a cherished MINI from Sytner. It cost me the grand total of £10450!

Now that is a billy bob bargain

Si

Jun 28th, 2007, 10:21 AM	#1
Biglad_UK MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Milton Keynes Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 31 Offline	Newbie almost ready to pull the trigger Hi Guys, Been reading alot. There's loads of good stuff here. Just wanted a straight answer to three simple questions I'm looking at paying £15k for an Astra Black 2006 ( May 2006 ) MCS with Leather / Chili / Darkened Glass / Panaramic Roof / MFSW / Visibilty Pack / 17" Bullets with 11k on the clock My questions 1, What is in the Visibility Pack ( I've searched and read and believe its Auto Lights/Wipers and Heated screen but wanted confirmation ) 2, What is included in the Chili pack ( Again I've searched but not found a conclusive agreed list ) 3, Does this look like a good deal from a Main Dealer ? Thanks Si

Jun 28th, 2007, 11:06 AM	#4 (permalink)
Tigger, Eeyore & Roo May '08: Bye bye Mini2... My Classifieds Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kernow, near England Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 4,512 Offline	Don't forget the Limited Slip Diff (LSD) as part of the Chili Pack Scrogg Seems a fair price to me. Is it full leather, or just half leather? Go for it! It's one of the last of its kind Tigger. May 08: Thanks to all of my friends on Mini2 for a lot of great times over the last 4 years. In future I can always be contacted here!

Jun 28th, 2007, 11:09 AM	#5 (permalink)
ItHurts Letting the days go by Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Stop Making Sense Local Time: 09:58 PM Posts: 909 Offline	As for the good deal from Main dealer - best bet is to sanity check against similar specced cars on the Mini cherished site: MINI Cherished.co.uk You can go in to advanced search and specify (most of) the options. Welcome to the club! If you can't be good... be good at it!

Jun 28th, 2007, 02:31 PM	#16 (permalink)
Tigger, Eeyore & Roo May '08: Bye bye Mini2... My Classifieds Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kernow, near England Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 4,512 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by FunFindus (original) I saw a late 53 Cooper S with Chilli for £10750 from a dealer. Heaven knows what the customer got on his trade in. Just to put this in perspective for a moment, this car is 3 years older, of unknown miles and condition and is £4,250 less. This is not unreasonable. The price of £15,000 for the June '06 car may not be a bargain, but it's pretty fair. May 08: Thanks to all of my friends on Mini2 for a lot of great times over the last 4 years. In future I can always be contacted here!

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Jun 28th, 2007, 10:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
Andy P MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Stamford, Lincs Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 1,701 Offline	Visibility Pack is Auto dimmer rear view mirror/heated screen-washer jets/ auto lights and heated mirrors

Jun 28th, 2007, 11:01 AM	#3 (permalink)
Scrogg What's Next? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 15,067 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Andy P (original) Visibility Pack is Auto dimmer rear view mirror/heated screen-washer jets/ auto lights and heated mirrors Close! The Visibility Pack was: Auto-Dimming Rear View Mirror Auto Headlights Heated Front Windscreen Rain Sensing Front Wipers The Heated Door Mirrors & Washerjets was a stand-alone option, not part of the Visibility Pack. The CHILI Pack was: 17" Alloy Wheels 3-Spoke Sports Leather Steering Wheel Air Conditioning Floor Mats Front Fog Lights Interior Lights Pack Limited-Slip Differential On-Board Computer Part-Leather Upholstery Passenger Seat Height Adjust Storage Compartment Pack Xenon Headlights

Jun 28th, 2007, 01:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
Biglad_UK MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Milton Keynes Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 31 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Tigger, Eeyore & Roo (original) Don't forget the Limited Slip Diff (LSD) as part of the Chili Pack Scrogg Seems a fair price to me. Is it full leather, or just half leather? Go for it! It's one of the last of its kind Tigger. Full Leather. Gravity Panther Black Si

Jun 28th, 2007, 01:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
Biglad_UK MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Milton Keynes Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 31 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ItHurts (original) As for the good deal from Main dealer - best bet is to sanity check against similar specced cars on the Mini cherished site: You can go in to advanced search and specify (most of) the options. Welcome to the club! Being doing that for the past few days and also Autotrader/ Classifieds here/ Ebay and Pistonheads. Prices are so random thats its hard to be sure it's good or bad price so I though I'd ask you "experts"

Jun 28th, 2007, 01:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
FunFindus MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2007 Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 96 Offline	I think its an excellent spec the right colour exterior and interior and well it is a supercharged one. £15K isnt a bargain, but it is fair price from a dealer. However, be prepared for it to be worth £9K to £10K once its 3 years old. I just feel selling an old model on will be difficult. I bought a 2005 Aug '05 with Function steering, heated seats, chilli pack, sunroof, 6cd, lsd but half leather, chrome in/out and 17" bullet wheels with 13K miles for £12,250. But I bought it privately and they wanted a quick sale. I bought it in May 2007

Jun 28th, 2007, 01:30 PM	#9 (permalink)
Biglad_UK MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Milton Keynes Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 31 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by FunFindus (original) I think its an excellent spec the right colour exterior and interior and well it is a supercharged one. £15K isnt a bargain, but it is fair price from a dealer. However, be prepared for it to be worth £9K to £10K once its 3 years old. I just feel selling an old model on will be difficult. I bought a 2005 Aug '05 with Function steering, heated seats, chilli pack, sunroof, 6cd, lsd but half leather and 17" bullet wheels with 13K miles for £12,250. But I bought it privately and they wanted a quick sale. I bought it in May 2007 TBF, thats nearly a year older. The only ones I could find that even came close to the age of this new one were £14k+ which as a percentage is very very close. Maybe not a bargin but defo a good deal. I assume your saying once it's three years old it will be worth £9 to £10 cause of the R56 ? Three year only Cooper S's are currenty fetching £13k and up words. You saying yours wil lose £2.25k to £3.25k over the space of a year ? I though from looking round this cars held there value very well ? Si

Jun 28th, 2007, 02:09 PM	#10 (permalink)
FunFindus MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2007 Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 96 Offline	I just think future depreciation values wil accelarate as the R53 becomes more of a historic buy and more R56s start hitting the 2nd hand market. I saw a late 53 Cooper S with Chilli for £10750 from a dealer. Heaven knows what the customer got on his trade in.

Jun 28th, 2007, 02:11 PM	#11 (permalink)
Biglad_UK MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Milton Keynes Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 31 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by FunFindus (original) I just think future depreciation values wil accelarate as the R53 becomes more of a historic buy and more R56s start hitting the 2nd hand market. I saw a late 53 Cooper S with Chilli for £10750 from a dealer. Heaven knows what the customer got on his trade in. NO WAY.....£10750. What's that, a mini dealer ? Si

Jun 28th, 2007, 02:15 PM	#12 (permalink)
FunFindus MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2007 Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 96 Offline	No it wasnt a mini dealer it was Adsheads near Wigan/Bolton. They have another one there too but i think its a bit newer Adsheads - Used Cars for Westhoughton Used Car Sales Dealer Lancashire

Jun 28th, 2007, 02:18 PM	#13 (permalink)
Biglad_UK MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Milton Keynes Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 31 Offline	This is one of the cheapest ones on Mini's website MINI Cherished 53 Plate ( Oct 2003 ) so nearly 4 years old and £10495. If you use the rule of thumb that mini dealers add £1500 the that has a 4 year old Cooper S with Chili for £9k. Si

Jun 28th, 2007, 02:28 PM	#14 (permalink)
FunFindus MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2007 Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 96 Offline	Yeah at the end of the day youve found a car you like, you have £15K in your back pocket and sure enough you will enjoy it. It will be a nice car.

Jun 28th, 2007, 02:30 PM	#15 (permalink)
Biglad_UK MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Milton Keynes Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 31 Offline	Thanks. I hope so Haven't seen it yet, won't see it until it's delivered Si

Jun 28th, 2007, 02:33 PM	#17 (permalink)
Biglad_UK MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Milton Keynes Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 31 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Tigger, Eeyore & Roo (original) Just to put this in perspective for a moment, this car is 3 years older, of unknown miles and condition and is £4,250 less. This is not unreasonable. The price of £15,000 for the June '06 car may not be a bargain, but it's pretty fair. Yeah agreed. I'm happy Si

Jun 28th, 2007, 02:38 PM	#18 (permalink)
FunFindus MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2007 Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 96 Offline	yeah true, never quite thought of it that way.

Jun 28th, 2007, 07:10 PM	#19 (permalink)
JAMIE1131 MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Earl Shilton, Leics. Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 792 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by FunFindus (original) I just think future depreciation values wil accelarate as the R53 becomes more of a historic buy and more R56s start hitting the 2nd hand market. I saw a late 53 Cooper S with Chilli for £10750 from a dealer. Heaven knows what the customer got on his trade in. Wasn't mine by any chance! My 53 plate MCS has pretty well the same spec as the one mentioned here, including full leather panoramic sunroof etc. I bought it at exactly 3 years old as a cherished MINI from Sytner. It cost me the grand total of £10450!

Jun 28th, 2007, 09:05 PM	#20 (permalink)
Biglad_UK MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Milton Keynes Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 31 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by JAMIE1131 (original) Wasn't mine by any chance! My 53 plate MCS has pretty well the same spec as the one mentioned here, including full leather panoramic sunroof etc. I bought it at exactly 3 years old as a cherished MINI from Sytner. It cost me the grand total of £10450! Now that is a billy bob bargain Si

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