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Suj999 · Aug 28th, 2007, 04:56 PM

How often do you guys change them?

It seems MINI doesn’t change them as part of the TLC oil change, as I can’t find no mention of it in the service manual? Why?

I am thinking of changing it myself, why is this not changed with the oil and oil filter?

Do you need to ask for it as extra and pay for it? Knowing MINi they will probably want an hour’s labour! So that would be £8 for the part, and £100 for the labour.

Suj999 · Aug 28th, 2007, 09:56 PM

anyone? does no one change their air filters?

Cobby Park Lane · Aug 29th, 2007, 05:31 AM

I have a washable K&N, i tent to clean that about every 10,000 miles, so on each service. If its been a very dusty few months (i live on a farm) i wash it every 5,000 miles.

ScottyBoy · Aug 29th, 2007, 06:46 AM

I have an Alta CAI and its been on for around 5000 miles and will be getting cleaned very shortly.

ScottyBoy · Aug 29th, 2007, 06:47 AM

But to answer your question AFAIK alot of people do and air filter and oil change in between the TLC pack as it is an extended period of time for you not to do it!

Suj999 · Aug 29th, 2007, 11:14 AM

thanks guys.. My cars nearly done 10K and its going in for the first TLC oil change soon. I think I'll change the air filter myself when I get the car back from MINI.

I am still surprised this isn't done as part of the oil service.

Richard Crofts · Aug 29th, 2007, 12:07 PM

Never ever leave it to BMW to change it as part of the service. The time between changes is far too long. On an S certianly need to change it more frequently than the TLC/service intervals. It take 2 minutes and a torx bit/screwdriver and 0 mechanical knowledge to do. Cost if you do it every 10k is about £3 for a filter. If BMW do it every 10k they will charge a lot more!

My advice is to buy a panel filter like piper or kN (they do not alter your insurance) and then wash and oil them every 10k at least yourself.

Robboards · Sep 5th, 2007, 11:53 AM

How do you take apart the air filter to clean it?

Richard Crofts · Sep 5th, 2007, 01:01 PM

If I remember right (I have had an Alta CAi for ages) then its either just some small clips or a couple of torx bit scres that keep the lid on the stock box. Take the lid off and take the panel out...throw away and fit a replacement paper panel or an uprated KN/pipercross one. Screw the lid back on.

Worth investing in a haynes manual for £14 from halford...its been invaluable to me

Robboards · Sep 5th, 2007, 02:28 PM

Ive just cleaned the air filter and put eeverything back together okay i cant get the metal clip to back together.

Any tips? should i buy i new one and were from?

Thanks in advamnce for any help

Maxum · Sep 5th, 2007, 09:50 PM

When i got my 03 MCS last November the car had 32000 mile on the clock and if you drove it hard you could here a loud chattering noise from the engine, i had the car inspected by my local mini dealer but the could not find any fault with the car and i was told not to worry about it

Anyway to cut a long story short i decided to fit an Alta cold air kit, so on removel of the old air box and filter i found the filter Tobe very dirty and misshaped.

Now the car runs alot smother and the noise has gone. although the TLC pack looks good value i do think they are skipping on what would be normal replacement service items

Richard Crofts · Sep 6th, 2007, 09:20 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Robboards (original)

Ive just cleaned the air filter and put eeverything back together okay i cant get the metal clip to back together.

Any tips? should i buy i new one and were from?

Thanks in advamnce for any help

The clip is a sort of almost one use. I am assuming you mean the sort of jubilee ring clip on the air pipe?

The way most people deal with it is they get the old one use (it can be reused but difficult) and measure its diameter...then go to halfords/supply place and buy a corect size jubilee ring and use that instead...makes for easier removal and refit at later dates. BMW also can sell the proper clip to you for a few pennies.

R

Richard Crofts · Sep 6th, 2007, 09:22 AM

Oh if you want to you can get a pair of needle nose pliers and use them to pinch the 2 humps together until the little pin slots into the hol and closes the ring clip up. Brute force and careful manipulation will work if the original clip is not too damaged.

Robboards · Sep 6th, 2007, 02:18 PM

Got it sorted now got a Jubilee clip from B&Q cos halfords didnt have one

Thanks for the help though

Westy · Sep 6th, 2007, 10:11 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Maxum (original)

When i got my 03 MCS last November the car had 32000 mile on the clock and if you drove it hard you could here a loud chattering noise from the engine, i had the car inspected by my local mini dealer but the could not find any fault with the car and i was told not to worry about it

Anyway to cut a long story short i decided to fit an Alta cold air kit, so on removel of the old air box and filter i found the filter Tobe very dirty and misshaped.

Now the car runs alot smother and the noise has gone. although the TLC pack looks good value i do think they are skipping on what would be normal replacement service items

Mine was like that too - I can't work out why they pull in at the left hand edge as in your pic - not good as that will leave part of the route through the air box unfiltered.

Suj999 · Sep 7th, 2007, 11:31 AM

those clips are 80p from bmw, I'll change mine tomorrow.. after it comes back from the oil service today.

beken · Sep 10th, 2007, 09:53 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Robboards (original)

Ive just cleaned the air filter and put eeverything back together okay i cant get the metal clip to back together.

Any tips? should i buy i new one and were from?

Thanks in advamnce for any help

Use adjustible pliers to squeeze the two sides of the clip together. Those are the type plumbers use. You can adjust the angle in which the claws grab the clip. When you squeeze the clip together, it should just snap in.

If you must use regular pliers, the angle on which the claws contact the clip causes the pliers to slip off and it doesn't work.

Suj999 · Sep 11th, 2007, 11:31 AM

Those things are damn hard to clip on!!!!! Had to resort to brute force to clip it.

chris at woodman bmw · Sep 12th, 2007, 04:43 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Suj999 (original)

How often do you guys change them?

It seems MINI doesn’t change them as part of the TLC oil change, as I can’t find no mention of it in the service manual? Why?

I am thinking of changing it myself, why is this not changed with the oil and oil filter?

Do you need to ask for it as extra and pay for it? Knowing MINi they will probably want an hour’s labour! So that would be £8 for the part, and £100 for the labour.

Hi
The air filter is changed on the inspection 2 service which would be arould the 50.000 mile mark, if you want to replace the filter early the fitted price is £14.95 inc parts labour and vat
Chris

Westy · Sep 13th, 2007, 06:16 PM

Why are people removing the air pipe clip? - If you remove the Intercooler plastic cover, there is enough room such that the air box lid/pipe can be lifted forward with the pipe still on.
Kev.

Aug 28th, 2007, 04:56 PM	#1
Suj999 MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Essex Local Time: 02:17 PM Posts: 106 Offline	Air Filters, service! How often do you guys change them? It seems MINI doesn’t change them as part of the TLC oil change, as I can’t find no mention of it in the service manual? Why? I am thinking of changing it myself, why is this not changed with the oil and oil filter? Do you need to ask for it as extra and pay for it? Knowing MINi they will probably want an hour’s labour! So that would be £8 for the part, and £100 for the labour.

Sep 10th, 2007, 09:53 PM	#17 (permalink)
beken 05 MCS BEP Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Delta, BC, Canada Local Time: 06:17 AM Posts: 1,174 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Robboards (original) Ive just cleaned the air filter and put eeverything back together okay i cant get the metal clip to back together. Any tips? should i buy i new one and were from? Thanks in advamnce for any help Use adjustible pliers to squeeze the two sides of the clip together. Those are the type plumbers use. You can adjust the angle in which the claws grab the clip. When you squeeze the clip together, it should just snap in. If you must use regular pliers, the angle on which the claws contact the clip causes the pliers to slip off and it doesn't work. 05MCS BEP - Alta 22mm rear anti-swaybar, Madness CAI

Sep 12th, 2007, 04:43 PM	#19 (permalink)
chris at woodman bmw MINI2 Sponsor My Classifieds Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sunny Blackpool Local Time: 02:17 PM Posts: 585 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Suj999 (original) How often do you guys change them? It seems MINI doesn’t change them as part of the TLC oil change, as I can’t find no mention of it in the service manual? Why? I am thinking of changing it myself, why is this not changed with the oil and oil filter? Do you need to ask for it as extra and pay for it? Knowing MINi they will probably want an hour’s labour! So that would be £8 for the part, and £100 for the labour. Hi The air filter is changed on the inspection 2 service which would be arould the 50.000 mile mark, if you want to replace the filter early the fitted price is £14.95 inc parts labour and vat Chris www.derekwoodmanmini.co.uk

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Aug 28th, 2007, 09:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
Suj999 MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Essex Local Time: 02:17 PM Posts: 106 Offline	anyone? does no one change their air filters?

Aug 29th, 2007, 05:31 AM	#3 (permalink)
Cobby Park Lane Mini Convert.... My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Biggleswade, Beds.UK Local Time: 02:17 PM Posts: 200 Offline	I have a washable K&N, i tent to clean that about every 10,000 miles, so on each service. If its been a very dusty few months (i live on a farm) i wash it every 5,000 miles.

Aug 29th, 2007, 06:46 AM	#4 (permalink)
ScottyBoy Obsessive Car Cleaner OCC My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Thornaby NE Local Time: 02:17 PM Posts: 2,873 Offline	I have an Alta CAI and its been on for around 5000 miles and will be getting cleaned very shortly.

Aug 29th, 2007, 06:47 AM	#5 (permalink)
ScottyBoy Obsessive Car Cleaner OCC My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Thornaby NE Local Time: 02:17 PM Posts: 2,873 Offline	But to answer your question AFAIK alot of people do and air filter and oil change in between the TLC pack as it is an extended period of time for you not to do it!

Aug 29th, 2007, 11:14 AM	#6 (permalink)
Suj999 MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Essex Local Time: 02:17 PM Posts: 106 Offline	thanks guys.. My cars nearly done 10K and its going in for the first TLC oil change soon. I think I'll change the air filter myself when I get the car back from MINI. I am still surprised this isn't done as part of the oil service.

Aug 29th, 2007, 12:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
Richard Crofts THE STICK Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Worcestershire WR15 Local Time: 02:17 PM Posts: 3,001 Offline	Never ever leave it to BMW to change it as part of the service. The time between changes is far too long. On an S certianly need to change it more frequently than the TLC/service intervals. It take 2 minutes and a torx bit/screwdriver and 0 mechanical knowledge to do. Cost if you do it every 10k is about £3 for a filter. If BMW do it every 10k they will charge a lot more! My advice is to buy a panel filter like piper or kN (they do not alter your insurance) and then wash and oil them every 10k at least yourself.

Sep 5th, 2007, 11:53 AM	#8 (permalink)
Robboards MINI2 Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Local Time: 01:17 PM Posts: 14 Offline	How do you take apart the air filter to clean it?

Sep 5th, 2007, 01:01 PM	#9 (permalink)
Richard Crofts THE STICK Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Worcestershire WR15 Local Time: 02:17 PM Posts: 3,001 Offline	If I remember right (I have had an Alta CAi for ages) then its either just some small clips or a couple of torx bit scres that keep the lid on the stock box. Take the lid off and take the panel out...throw away and fit a replacement paper panel or an uprated KN/pipercross one. Screw the lid back on. Worth investing in a haynes manual for £14 from halford...its been invaluable to me

Sep 5th, 2007, 02:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
Robboards MINI2 Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Local Time: 01:17 PM Posts: 14 Offline	Ive just cleaned the air filter and put eeverything back together okay i cant get the metal clip to back together. Any tips? should i buy i new one and were from? Thanks in advamnce for any help

Sep 5th, 2007, 09:50 PM	#11 (permalink)
Maxum MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Nere Sittingbourne Local Time: 02:17 PM Posts: 35 Offline	When i got my 03 MCS last November the car had 32000 mile on the clock and if you drove it hard you could here a loud chattering noise from the engine, i had the car inspected by my local mini dealer but the could not find any fault with the car and i was told not to worry about it Anyway to cut a long story short i decided to fit an Alta cold air kit, so on removel of the old air box and filter i found the filter Tobe very dirty and misshaped. Now the car runs alot smother and the noise has gone. although the TLC pack looks good value i do think they are skipping on what would be normal replacement service items

Sep 6th, 2007, 09:20 AM	#12 (permalink)
Richard Crofts THE STICK Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Worcestershire WR15 Local Time: 02:17 PM Posts: 3,001 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Robboards (original) Ive just cleaned the air filter and put eeverything back together okay i cant get the metal clip to back together. Any tips? should i buy i new one and were from? Thanks in advamnce for any help The clip is a sort of almost one use. I am assuming you mean the sort of jubilee ring clip on the air pipe? The way most people deal with it is they get the old one use (it can be reused but difficult) and measure its diameter...then go to halfords/supply place and buy a corect size jubilee ring and use that instead...makes for easier removal and refit at later dates. BMW also can sell the proper clip to you for a few pennies. R

Sep 6th, 2007, 09:22 AM	#13 (permalink)
Richard Crofts THE STICK Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Worcestershire WR15 Local Time: 02:17 PM Posts: 3,001 Offline	Oh if you want to you can get a pair of needle nose pliers and use them to pinch the 2 humps together until the little pin slots into the hol and closes the ring clip up. Brute force and careful manipulation will work if the original clip is not too damaged.

Sep 6th, 2007, 02:18 PM	#14 (permalink)
Robboards MINI2 Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Local Time: 01:17 PM Posts: 14 Offline	Got it sorted now got a Jubilee clip from B&Q cos halfords didnt have one Thanks for the help though

Sep 6th, 2007, 10:11 PM	#15 (permalink)
Westy Blackpool Rock Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Blackpool Local Time: 02:17 PM Posts: 153 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Maxum (original) When i got my 03 MCS last November the car had 32000 mile on the clock and if you drove it hard you could here a loud chattering noise from the engine, i had the car inspected by my local mini dealer but the could not find any fault with the car and i was told not to worry about it Anyway to cut a long story short i decided to fit an Alta cold air kit, so on removel of the old air box and filter i found the filter Tobe very dirty and misshaped. Now the car runs alot smother and the noise has gone. although the TLC pack looks good value i do think they are skipping on what would be normal replacement service items Mine was like that too - I can't work out why they pull in at the left hand edge as in your pic - not good as that will leave part of the route through the air box unfiltered.

Sep 7th, 2007, 11:31 AM	#16 (permalink)
Suj999 MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Essex Local Time: 02:17 PM Posts: 106 Offline	those clips are 80p from bmw, I'll change mine tomorrow.. after it comes back from the oil service today.

Sep 11th, 2007, 11:31 AM	#18 (permalink)
Suj999 MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Essex Local Time: 02:17 PM Posts: 106 Offline	Those things are damn hard to clip on!!!!! Had to resort to brute force to clip it.

Sep 13th, 2007, 06:16 PM	#20 (permalink)
Westy Blackpool Rock Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Blackpool Local Time: 02:17 PM Posts: 153 Offline	Why are people removing the air pipe clip? - If you remove the Intercooler plastic cover, there is enough room such that the air box lid/pipe can be lifted forward with the pipe still on. Kev.

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