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mikevans1 · Oct 31st, 2007, 03:40 PM

i have a mini cooper s 52 plate and no that it is 163bhp while the new facelift model is 170

where have they scraped the extra bhp from

also have they done this because it wieghs more ?

also what main advantages has the new mini got if any on the pre face lift

i like both style but just prefer the pre facelift model look more like the traditional mini

Thanks

ALD0 · Oct 31st, 2007, 04:21 PM

A few tweeks to the supercharge I think.
Wasn't aware the face lift R53 weighed more?

Richard Crofts · Oct 31st, 2007, 04:52 PM

If its an R53 MCS you are talking about then it was a change of charger and more effective maps I believe. The gearing on the facelift R53 was different to making the ratios shorter for improved acelleration thus improving by about 0.2-0.4 seconds on the 0-60

Paul · Oct 31st, 2007, 06:47 PM

Good idea to check here for some basics to begin with: What are first generation, second generation, r53, r56 etc?

The R52 is all first generation Convertible MINIs.

minioneandrew · Oct 31st, 2007, 10:46 PM

The main difference was the same supercharger, but the blades where coated with teflon, giving it higher boost pressure

Ant FR · Nov 1st, 2007, 09:16 AM

slight remap i thought too,

Main gain on the newer ones is the gearbox ratios being reduced. However they lose the clock int he roof which for me would be unbearable. i'd rather lose that 7bhp for the clock in the roof....lol

ALD0 · Nov 1st, 2007, 09:20 AM

Got use to my clock being in the speedo now, thinking back the clock on th roof was very Rover ish (not a bad thing)

Oct 31st, 2007, 03:40 PM	#1
mikevans1 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Flintshire Local Time: 05:23 AM Posts: 42 Offline	R52 v R5 i have a mini cooper s 52 plate and no that it is 163bhp while the new facelift model is 170 where have they scraped the extra bhp from also have they done this because it wieghs more ? also what main advantages has the new mini got if any on the pre face lift i like both style but just prefer the pre facelift model look more like the traditional mini Thanks

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Oct 31st, 2007, 04:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
ALD0 MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Chester Local Time: 06:23 AM Posts: 9,421 Offline	A few tweeks to the supercharge I think. Wasn't aware the face lift R53 weighed more?

Oct 31st, 2007, 04:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
Richard Crofts THE STICK Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Worcestershire WR15 Local Time: 06:23 AM Posts: 2,968 Offline	If its an R53 MCS you are talking about then it was a change of charger and more effective maps I believe. The gearing on the facelift R53 was different to making the ratios shorter for improved acelleration thus improving by about 0.2-0.4 seconds on the 0-60

Oct 31st, 2007, 06:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 06:23 AM Posts: 40,435 Offline	Good idea to check here for some basics to begin with: What are first generation, second generation, r53, r56 etc? The R52 is all first generation Convertible MINIs.

Oct 31st, 2007, 10:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
minioneandrew MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ayrshire Local Time: 06:23 AM Posts: 321 Offline	The main difference was the same supercharger, but the blades where coated with teflon, giving it higher boost pressure

Nov 1st, 2007, 09:16 AM	#6 (permalink)
Ant FR MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Local Time: 06:23 AM Posts: 1,789 Offline	slight remap i thought too, Main gain on the newer ones is the gearbox ratios being reduced. However they lose the clock int he roof which for me would be unbearable. i'd rather lose that 7bhp for the clock in the roof....lol

Nov 1st, 2007, 09:20 AM	#7 (permalink)
ALD0 MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Chester Local Time: 06:23 AM Posts: 9,421 Offline	Got use to my clock being in the speedo now, thinking back the clock on th roof was very Rover ish (not a bad thing)

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