[adams]

Hi guys,


Just wondering with the petrol prices only going north and the tax going silly too, has anybody questioned how much they are paying out per month? Its now around £200 a month on fuel now for me, double money! I am getting around 27 mpg, and £500 a month altogether on my car to go to work and back is starting to get to me

Has any one here driven/considered a quick diesel? I know AntFr used to have a VAG diesel, i was looking casualy at golf 140/170 tdi's? Or a bmw 120d? Its not a mini i know and will be certainly more dull but will they feel slow after my (standard) s?

Thoughts and comments appreciated

[r1_kde]

I don't want to think about it, but I don't care either they can keep charging more and more snd I will continue to pay, its a lovely car with high co2 which I am more than happy to keep pumping out. I do not give a toss about the effect my car gives to the environment.

I wont change the car though I did look at a 330cl M sport but then I would probably go for 4.0L or more.

If you want a quick diesel go for the 123d thats a 0-60 of about 6.? but its ugly

[baskers]

The Government is greenwashing people, and unfortunately people are going to feel the pinch in the middle.

Personally, I don't have kids, or a mortgage, and I am able to afford the MCS - it's a premium, luxury car, and we have to foot the bill. Yes, it's more expensive, but for me it's worth it.

I can only imagine how tax/fuel rises can affect people, coupled with rising council tax, energy and food bills. If people are in those financial situations, then they need to prioritise things, IE - food, bills, clothes... car.

On the same token that the finest restaurants have the finest prices, you get what you pay for.

Jay

[Aberdeen Al]

Quote: Originally Posted by adams (original)

Has any one here driven/considered a quick diesel? I know AntFr used to have a VAG diesel, i was looking casualy at golf 140/170 tdi's?
Thoughts and comments appreciated

My wife has a Seat Leon FR TDi (57 plate) and I absolutely love it - 1st gear is pretty pants but 2nd & 3rd are fantastic. It costs approx £55 to fill it up and we get well over 400 miles in town and that improves greatly if we decide to travel.

[Sid-Clubman]

I can assure you a clubman D or a dooper are not quick by your standards, BUT.....

For me and my clubman D (about 30,000 + business miles PA) I am getting 64mpg measured over the last 2000 miles (I've only had the car a short while).
I use it for work and fun - and it is a mini, that alone is worth a lot.

It's no "S" but it handles much better than most vehicles out there, unless you want to spend stupid money.

It has shed loads of torque, you could always chip it, fit some GTT gear and still come home with a smile on your face and cash in your wallet. Depends how you want to spend your cash.

Only £35 tax this year, £20 next year.

I've made my choice, but I can always get on a motorcycle for my speed addiction

[wincakes]

BP's gone from a GP to a 118d...and IMO it's just as quick as my S but does nearly double the MPG, and her tax is only £35...and £20 next year. I'm seriously thinking about changing to a Dooper...we'll be a 2 diesel family...how quaint!!

[feenaldo]

Extra £100 on tax... well saw that coming! As for fuel prices, doesn't really bother me either way, you always find a way to adjust to it either that or you give up driving your car.

I own my car outright now so any cost to run it is relative and like many I couldn't care about emissions on my car because its far to easy to say there is worse out there.

On top of all that with the mods on my MCS I seem to be getting 38mpg at the moment which isn't awful.. and if I need to go someplace else then I use the mule for that trip which is my faithful Diesel Fiat Punto (m reg and cost me £100 to buy) so can't complain really!

By the time I had spent thousands getting a Dooper or in fact a diesel car that I think I could live with power / fun wise I doubt I would save that much anyway. Got to enjoy it motoring whilst I can and Im young so by the time I'm 60 I doubt there will be anything near what it is now.

£35 per year to tax or not diesel is the fuel of the devil lol!

[Paul]

Less than £10 a month extra on your tax shouldn't push you over the edge, or you were probably too close to it in the first place, and it could be a good wake up call.

[ladee-wood]

I haven't even picked up my MINI yet but i'm already concerned as to how much its going to cost me. I only drive to work once a week but i will be taking part in a lot of runs and undoubtedly living it in most of my spare time! Think i'll have to budget myself a bit better as i'm sure i'll be the fuel companies top customer!

[Ant FR]

3500k + 300 will get you a 180bhp 300lb/ft Ibiza Tdi that will do 14.8 ish qtr miles and still return roughly 45-50mpg without trying.

My old one was more and it would wheelsspin in 4th with the standard 16's on

[adams]

Cheers for the replies so far guys. Its not that i cant afford to run my car, its just annoying me a bit. I still love the car its brilliant, but i think its always worth keeping an eye on the ball if you know what i mean. AntFR i didnt know they had 300lb/ft like thats loads. How much does a standard face lift s have in lb/ft?

My car will be deinatley staying for this year, and perhaps for longer! I would love just to keep it for the weekend and have a TDi for during the week.

[Hugo]

Quote: Originally Posted by adams (original)

Hi guys,


Just wondering with the petrol prices only going north and the tax going silly too, has anybody questioned how much they are paying out per month? Its now around £200 a month on fuel now for me, double money! I am getting around 27 mpg, and £500 a month altogether on my car to go to work and back is starting to get to me

Has any one here driven/considered a quick diesel? I know AntFr used to have a VAG diesel, i was looking casualy at golf 140/170 tdi's? Or a bmw 120d? Its not a mini i know and will be certainly more dull but will they feel slow after my (standard) s?

Thoughts and comments appreciated

I'm having the same problem but I don't want to change. My dad was looking at 1 series (but he wouldn't buy a diesel) as he's changing his car around easter time, so I was doing a bit of research for the tax of the petrols;

116i- £110
118i- £120
120i- £140


The fuel economy seems to be good on the petrols from 35-40MPG. Hope this helps

[adams]

Cheers for that very useful info. I have driven the 116i and that felt very slow compared to my s (understanable), i think i would be leaning towards a diesel. Anyone driven the cooper d hatchback?

[cooperSMark]

I've changed to the Cooper S from a 2.8 Z3 which had a serious drink problem. The mini isn't the most economical car out there but, considering the performance is almost the same as the Z3 on paper and it handles better in real life, i reckon it's pretty good. I get around 70 miles per £10 of petrol comapred with the 55 miles i would get in the Z3

[cooperSMark]

The cost of road tax for the Mini was a bit of a shock though! i didn't really give it a thought until after i'd bought the car.. I'm sure i'll cope though

[bigpoppa81]

this is a really important thread for me cos im on the verge of getting a Cooper S with 49k on the clock and im worried about running costs what with the rising costs of fuel at the moment.

I have a mk4 golf tdi 1.9 at the moment and im getting 180ish out of £20 due to the massive costs of diesel.

If i would be getting about the 150 mark out of £20 in a Cooper S then i could live with the 30 miles difference.

The tax though now thats another thing haha

Is 150 miles out of £20 of petrol in a cooper s sound about right? i do mostly motorway driving averaging about 200 mile a week

[cooperSMark]

yeh, i reckon you'd be about right at 140-150miles per £20.. All depends how heavy your right foot is though

[Triffid]

I considered a Golf TDI 170 46.3mpg overall, 0-60 7.9, emissions 160g/km
against an R56 Cooper S 45.6 mpg overall, 0-60 7.1.. (mpg In the 08 model), emissions 149/km

Just shows you that there is nothing in it and the petrol will always beat a diesel for thrills!

After testdriving both the only reason to go for the Golf was space!..
The Mini was more fun, was at least as fast midrange, and just felt more special rather than the nondescript Golf IMO

In the end fears about the cost of fuel and where it was heading meant I got a Dooper

[Rakey]

I try not to think about it, £100 a week on petrol, but hell what a hoot burning that stuff is

The day I'll think of getting a diesel is when there is a MCS D, and a tuning option of a JCW kit, say putting the 120 engine in there, now thats when I'll be interested, until then

[Hugo]

Quote: Originally Posted by adams (original)

Cheers for that very useful info. I have driven the 116i and that felt very slow compared to my s (understanable), i think i would be leaning towards a diesel. Anyone driven the cooper d hatchback?

Had one for a couple of dayz, impressed could get to 70 easy enough but not as quick or enjoyable as the R53 S.

Going diesel you'll probably need a 123d