[eltel]

FFOP,

The Dutch spec sheet certainly does indicate that you won't be getting SSP+ or sports seating. That's no good.

I assume that some one at BMW/MINI has stuffed up in preparing the brochure. It's not the first time.

I mean you didn't even mention the 6 speed Getrag box as being one of the main differences between Cooper and Cooper 'S'.

However, if all of these things are correct, then you guys are being screwed badly.

Nevertheless, I'd write to BMW/MINI immediately and get confirmation.

[Basil]

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Originally posted by rich


If you put your face really close to the screen this blue type becomes almost legible

[Basil]

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Originally posted by FFOP
Well in my personal gallery I've added a part of the brochure which contains the Dutch specs, so you can see it for yourself..

Peronal gallery

Good grief. I'm stunned. If the "S" specs here looked like that, and it was still $39,900, I would not bother buying the S and would have bought a Cooper. As a percentage, how much more is the S compared to the Cooper ?. In oz it's about 23%.

When you add up the options (that we currently know of) that the S comes with here and add them to the Cooper, we get very close to getting the Bodykit and the Supercharged Engine for nothing.

[BruceK]

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Originally posted by Basil

....As a percentage, how much more is the S compared to the Cooper ?. In oz it's about 23%. ...

No "offical" prices in the US yet, but the S is expected to be about 17% more than the standrard Cooper.

[FFOP]

In the Netherlands there are still no official prices from the Cooper S but rumors are that the S is about 45% more than the Cooper

Roy

[Basil]

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Originally posted by FFOP
In the Netherlands there are still no official prices from the Cooper S but rumors are that the S is about 45% more than the Cooper

Roy

Blimey, well either your Coopers come with bugger all, or your Cooper S will need to be VERY highly specified. Thats a HUGE price difference. The Australian version of the S appears to be an absolute bargain at $39,900 + ORC. (About $43,000AU)

[Basil]

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Originally posted by OnlyS4me
Thanks for the scan FFOP, but I can't say I'm pleased with it!
BMW/MINI got to do something about this. I'm more and more beginning to worry about the car. Too much faults, not very supportive dealers, to much to buy extra for!
How much does it take to call myself OnlyTYPE-R4me

I cant advise you not to lose faith M, because I have myself. But your one of the top 10 advocates of the S here. Be a shame to lose you to to one of those Type R family wagons...... I'm amazed you like the shape.....too narrow, too tall. The Integra Type R has gone the same way. Honda lost the plot when they dumped the front wishbone suspension and went the way of struts. And all for the bean counters.

Anyway, If someone hasn't done it already, I'm going to start a new thread just for you family wagon types.

[OnlyS4me]

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Originally posted by Basil


I cant advise you not to lose faith M, because I have myself. But your one of the top 10 advocates of the S here. Be a shame to lose you to to one of those Type R family wagons...... I'm amazed you like the shape.....too narrow, too tall. The Integra Type R has gone the same way. Honda lost the plot when they dumped the front wishbone suspension and went the way of struts. And all for the bean counters.

Anyway, If someone hasn't done it already, I'm going to start a new thread just for you family wagon types.

It's the same size as the Cooper s (width and height/1,69 m and 1,42 m)), only its longer (4,14 m {Type-R} and 3,66 m {Cooper S}.
And you don't get the rediculous long list of faults and niggles, it's cheaper, faster and just as exclusive (limited edition).
And you get 17 inch alloys and these seats (recaro's with alcantara trim) for standard:



and these as an option:



Have you seen the list of people who are rejecting their cars as being a really bad product?
Are you going to pay such an amount of money for a car you get really sick of?
I don't want a car with self opening doors and sunroof etc. when I go shopping in the city!

[Basil]

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Originally posted by OnlyS4me
.....And you don't get the rediculous long list of faults and niggles, it's cheaper, faster and just as exclusive (limited edition).........




.........Have you seen the list of people who are rejecting their cars as being a really bad product?
Are you going to pay such an amount of money for a car you get really sick of?
I don't want a car with self opening doors and sunroof etc. when I go shopping in the city!

M,

I know, I know, I KNOW......... the whole MINI thing is turning into a complete debacle. It was my Faith in BMW that kept my order for the S in place. Unless BMW go public with the problems, and I now believe this is the ONLY way to address the issues with current and potential owners, I am giving them until Oxford request my build sheet (which will probably be April) to come clean. If this does not happen, and my dealer remains "in denial" my faith in, and my order with BMW for that lovely little car will be cancelled.