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RickB · Jan 4th, 2002, 02:13 PM

I suspect a lot of people are going to opt for the sport package on their S, but I have yet to see even one picture of an S with the hood stripes and spotlights that are part of the package; are there any? I'm not really keen on those two items, but I'm wondering if the package will be cheaper than selecting the individual options that I do want?

S2000&CooperS · Jan 4th, 2002, 02:44 PM

The Sports Pack is too much for me. I am going to order the S with Xenon headlights and the multi-function wheel, in addition to the Indi Blue metallic paint (why does this cost extra?)

Basil · Jan 5th, 2002, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RickB
I suspect a lot of people are going to opt for the sport package on their S, but I have yet to see even one picture of an S with the hood stripes and spotlights that are part of the package; are there any? I'm not really keen on those two items, but I'm wondering if the package will be cheaper than selecting the individual options that I do want?

Have a look in OnlyS4me gallery........ he's done a bit of a photoshop job on an S with spotlights and bonnet stripes.

See post below:

Basil · Jan 5th, 2002, 02:39 AM

Reproduced WITHOUT the express permission of OnlyS4me.

Hopefully he will not mind too much

I like the stripes......

OnlyS4me · Jan 5th, 2002, 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Basil
Reproduced WITHOUT the express permission of OnlyS4me.

Hopefully he will not mind too much

I like the stripes......

I don't mind at all. I didn't make this for nothing after all (at a time a didn't have any idea of a sportpack at all).

smiffy · Jan 5th, 2002, 04:20 AM

I like that alot, It's a good combo. As Im putting my dad on my ONE's insurance he said he might pay out of his own pockey for the fog lights to be fitted to my ONE

Basil · Jan 5th, 2002, 06:11 AM

I think "monsta" has BMW driving lights fitted to his MINI. Whenever anyone asks him a question he goes right out and takes a picture with his trusty digital.

I should like, if at possible a picture from underside the bonnet so we can see how BMW fix the lights through the grill, and how tidy the wiring etc is. I know that BMW charge a small fortune for these lights, but am quite keen on them for my S.

Any chance monsta ?

smiffy · Jan 5th, 2002, 06:18 AM

Martyn might be your best best as his car 'AMY' has them fitted too

loder · Jan 5th, 2002, 10:42 AM

I thought they were the fog lamps. If they aren't I'll have to get the separate options – Dang!

BruceK · Jan 5th, 2002, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by loder
What are the holes below the turn signals for? I thought they were the fog lamps. If they aren't I'll have to get the separate options – Dang!

The holes in the front bumper are to bolt the MINI together (just like the similar holes in a classic Mini), but that is also where the foglamps/driving lights are supposed to go - if factory fitted.

Look at this picture Paul Mullett took showing the factory positioning of the MINI's foglamps/driving lights. Those other foglamps/driving lights sitting up like insect eyes in front of the grill on new MINIs are dealer-fitted items – and very expensive ones at that. Some people love 'em, but I don’t care for them as they look like £49-Halfords-style add-ons. I think they look great on a classic Mini because of the rally heritage, but look out of place on a modern design like the new MINI.

I think the foglamps/driving lights on the Cooper S Sport Pack will be the ones integrated into the bumper like in the photo below.

monsta · Jan 5th, 2002, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Basil
I think "monsta" has BMW driving lights fitted to his MINI. Whenever anyone asks him a question he goes right out and takes a picture with his trusty digital.

I should like, if at possible a picture from underside the bonnet so we can see how BMW fix the lights through the grill, and how tidy the wiring etc is. I know that BMW charge a small fortune for these lights, but am quite keen on them for my S.

Any chance monsta ?

Sorry basil I don't have the spotlights on my MINI so I can't help this time.. Any other picture request though - I'm you man!

nwoodiwiss · Jan 5th, 2002, 02:54 PM

BruceK is quite right...the foglaps on the new "S" are integrated into the bumper (standard BMW approach). I know because I saw and touched a pre-production "S" (and am still recovering from such an emotional experience - it is a thing of beauty) on a dealers lot yesterday in Toronto...the "S" is in town for the Frbruary Auto show and for media test-drives

BruceK · Jan 5th, 2002, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nwoodiwiss
BruceK is quite right...the foglaps on the new "S" are integrated into the bumper (standard BMW approach). I know because I saw and touched a pre-production "S" (and am still recovering from such an emotional experience - it is a thing of beauty) on a dealers lot yesterday in Toronto...the "S" is in town for the Frbruary Auto show and for media test-drives

PICTURES?! Did you take any pictures?

By the way, if not part of the Sport Package, Road and Track estimates the cost of the factory foglamps (integrated into the bumper) to be $100 on the standard US-spec MINI Cooper, so they should be priced the same on the Cooper S.

Basil · Jan 5th, 2002, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BruceK

PICTURES?! Did you take any pictures?

By the way, if not part of the Sport Package, Road and Track estimates the cost of the factory foglamps (integrated into the bumper) to be $100 on the standard US-spec MINI Cooper, so they should be priced the same on the Cooper S.

Oz spec Cooper S will have them as standard equipment.

Basil · Jan 5th, 2002, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by monsta

Sorry basil I don't have the spotlights on my MINI so I can't help this time.. Any other picture request though - I'm you man!

I'm the one whose sorry monsta......got a bit confused.

BruceK · Jan 5th, 2002, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Basil

Oz spec Cooper S will have them as standard equipment.

Yes foglamps are standard on the Sports Pack in the US as well. It was awkward wording on my part that confused you - I meant to say if want foglamps - and aren't getting the Sports Pack - then they are available for about $100.

Basil · Jan 5th, 2002, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BruceK

Yes foglamps are standard on the Sports Pack in the US as well. It was awkward wording on my part that confused you - I meant to say if want foglamps - and aren't getting the Sports Pack - then they are available for about $100.

No my fault again Bruce. I should have been clearer.

Integrated Foglights are "Standard" issue in Oz Cooper S. No need for sportspacks or any other pack. They come with the car as bog standard.

They are $290AU extra for the Cooper.

Which reminds me. If anyone is interested on what standard fare the Cooper gets here in oz. Let me know and I'll post the brochure. I think you would be amazed at whats standard issue for the price.

rich · Jan 6th, 2002, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Basil

No my fault again Bruce. I should have been clearer.

Integrated Foglights are "Standard" issue in Oz Cooper S. No need for sportspacks or any other pack. They come with the car as bog standard.

They are $200AU extra for the Cooper.

Which reminds me. If anyone is interested on what standard fare the Cooper gets here in oz. Let me know and I'll post the brochure. I think you would be amazed at whats standard issue for the price.

I didn't know we got the foglights standard on the S. I guess this is good news, though I doubt whether I will ever get to use them in fog. It's pretty rare in these parts

Basil · Jan 6th, 2002, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rich

I didn't know we got the foglights standard on the S. I guess this is good news, though I doubt whether I will ever get to use them in fog. It's pretty rare in these parts

Well, thats what it says in the first piece of correspondance I got from BMW......
Standard Spec:

120kw supercharged 1.6 litre
6 speed gearbox
Six airbags including head air-bags
Chrome bumper trim ( oh yea sure!!!)
Car/ Key memory
Remote Central locking
Four adjustable headrests
16" Alloys
Intercooler intake
Alloy interior surface finishes
Cloth/leather upholstery
Central tacho/column mounted speedo
Air-conditioning
In-Dash CD
Electric windows/ mirrors
Traction control
Sports suspension (no + mentioned, but im sure thats what they mean, coz it's not mentioned for the cooper which gets SS standard)
Sports Seats
On board Computer
rear windscreen wiper
ABS Brakes
Front Fog Lights

BruceK · Jan 6th, 2002, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Basil

Well, thats what it says in the first piece of correspondance I got from BMW......
Standard Spec:

...
Chrome bumper trim ( oh yea sure!!!)
...
Front Fog Lights

I think the "chrome trim" mistake - plus the fact the no other country's Cooper S specs include them as standard - is reason enough to cast some doubt on the fog lights being standard in Oz, don't you?

Jan 4th, 2002, 02:13 PM	#1
RickB MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Local Time: 09:21 AM Posts: 777 Offline	Sport package I suspect a lot of people are going to opt for the sport package on their S, but I have yet to see even one picture of an S with the hood stripes and spotlights that are part of the package; are there any? I'm not really keen on those two items, but I'm wondering if the package will be cheaper than selecting the individual options that I do want?

Jan 4th, 2002, 02:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
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Jan 5th, 2002, 02:26 AM	#3 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 07:21 PM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Re: Sport package Quote: Originally posted by RickB I suspect a lot of people are going to opt for the sport package on their S, but I have yet to see even one picture of an S with the hood stripes and spotlights that are part of the package; are there any? I'm not really keen on those two items, but I'm wondering if the package will be cheaper than selecting the individual options that I do want? Have a look in OnlyS4me gallery........ he's done a bit of a photoshop job on an S with spotlights and bonnet stripes. See post below: Last edited by Basil : Jan 5th, 2002 at 02:37 AM.

Jan 5th, 2002, 02:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 07:21 PM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Reproduced WITHOUT the express permission of OnlyS4me. Hopefully he will not mind too much I like the stripes...... Attached Thumbnails

Jan 5th, 2002, 04:20 AM	#6 (permalink)
smiffy MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Here Local Time: 09:21 AM Posts: 5,778 Offline	I like that alot, It's a good combo. As Im putting my dad on my ONE's insurance he said he might pay out of his own pockey for the fog lights to be fitted to my ONE S for Smiffy "Kids in the front seat cause accidents, accidents in the backseat cause kids!"

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Jan 5th, 2002, 03:41 AM	#5 (permalink)
OnlyS4me Loves Leecey Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Broads Local Time: 10:21 AM Posts: 4,759 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Basil Reproduced WITHOUT the express permission of OnlyS4me. Hopefully he will not mind too much I like the stripes...... I don't mind at all. I didn't make this for nothing after all (at a time a didn't have any idea of a sportpack at all).

Jan 5th, 2002, 06:11 AM	#7 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 07:21 PM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Calling all "Driving Light" MINI Owners I think "monsta" has BMW driving lights fitted to his MINI. Whenever anyone asks him a question he goes right out and takes a picture with his trusty digital. I should like, if at possible a picture from underside the bonnet so we can see how BMW fix the lights through the grill, and how tidy the wiring etc is. I know that BMW charge a small fortune for these lights, but am quite keen on them for my S. Any chance monsta ?

Jan 5th, 2002, 06:18 AM	#8 (permalink)
smiffy MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Here Local Time: 09:21 AM Posts: 5,778 Offline	Martyn might be your best best as his car 'AMY' has them fitted too S for Smiffy "Kids in the front seat cause accidents, accidents in the backseat cause kids!"

Jan 5th, 2002, 10:42 AM	#9 (permalink)
loder MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2001 Local Time: 09:21 AM Posts: 175 Offline	What are the holes below the turn signals for? I thought they were the fog lamps. If they aren't I'll have to get the separate options – Dang!

Jan 5th, 2002, 01:02 PM	#10 (permalink)
BruceK Moderator & Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: San Antonio, Texas Local Time: 03:21 AM Posts: 3,759 Offline	Re: What are the holes below the turn signals for? Quote: Originally posted by loder What are the holes below the turn signals for? I thought they were the fog lamps. If they aren't I'll have to get the separate options – Dang! The holes in the front bumper are to bolt the MINI together (just like the similar holes in a classic Mini), but that is also where the foglamps/driving lights are supposed to go - if factory fitted. Look at this picture Paul Mullett took showing the factory positioning of the MINI's foglamps/driving lights. Those other foglamps/driving lights sitting up like insect eyes in front of the grill on new MINIs are dealer-fitted items – and very expensive ones at that. Some people love 'em, but I don’t care for them as they look like £49-Halfords-style add-ons. I think they look great on a classic Mini because of the rally heritage, but look out of place on a modern design like the new MINI. I think the foglamps/driving lights on the Cooper S Sport Pack will be the ones integrated into the bumper like in the photo below. + 2002 MINI Cooper S - Dark Silver / White roof, Sport, Premium, Lapis blue leather + 1965 Mini Traveller - Tartan Red / White roof, 1275, Cooper S discs, fully restored/renewed

Jan 5th, 2002, 01:33 PM	#11 (permalink)
monsta MINI2 Global Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Brighton Local Time: 10:21 AM Posts: 4,669 Offline	Re: Calling all "Driving Light" MINI Owners Quote: Originally posted by Basil I think "monsta" has BMW driving lights fitted to his MINI. Whenever anyone asks him a question he goes right out and takes a picture with his trusty digital. I should like, if at possible a picture from underside the bonnet so we can see how BMW fix the lights through the grill, and how tidy the wiring etc is. I know that BMW charge a small fortune for these lights, but am quite keen on them for my S. Any chance monsta ? Sorry basil I don't have the spotlights on my MINI so I can't help this time.. Any other picture request though - I'm you man! the MINI has gone...

Jan 5th, 2002, 02:54 PM	#12 (permalink)
nwoodiwiss MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Toronto Local Time: 05:21 AM Posts: 86 Offline	BruceK is quite right...the foglaps on the new "S" are integrated into the bumper (standard BMW approach). I know because I saw and touched a pre-production "S" (and am still recovering from such an emotional experience - it is a thing of beauty) on a dealers lot yesterday in Toronto...the "S" is in town for the Frbruary Auto show and for media test-drives Nick Woodiwiss Chilli Red/White Plate: "P ROCKET" 2003 MCS JCW Chilli Red/White & loaded !

Jan 5th, 2002, 04:46 PM	#13 (permalink)
BruceK Moderator & Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: San Antonio, Texas Local Time: 03:21 AM Posts: 3,759 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by nwoodiwiss BruceK is quite right...the foglaps on the new "S" are integrated into the bumper (standard BMW approach). I know because I saw and touched a pre-production "S" (and am still recovering from such an emotional experience - it is a thing of beauty) on a dealers lot yesterday in Toronto...the "S" is in town for the Frbruary Auto show and for media test-drives PICTURES?! Did you take any pictures? By the way, if not part of the Sport Package, Road and Track estimates the cost of the factory foglamps (integrated into the bumper) to be $100 on the standard US-spec MINI Cooper, so they should be priced the same on the Cooper S. + 2002 MINI Cooper S - Dark Silver / White roof, Sport, Premium, Lapis blue leather + 1965 Mini Traveller - Tartan Red / White roof, 1275, Cooper S discs, fully restored/renewed

Jan 5th, 2002, 10:21 PM	#14 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 07:21 PM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by BruceK PICTURES?! Did you take any pictures? By the way, if not part of the Sport Package, Road and Track estimates the cost of the factory foglamps (integrated into the bumper) to be $100 on the standard US-spec MINI Cooper, so they should be priced the same on the Cooper S. Oz spec Cooper S will have them as standard equipment.

Jan 5th, 2002, 10:22 PM	#15 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 07:21 PM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Re: Re: Calling all "Driving Light" MINI Owners Quote: Originally posted by monsta Sorry basil I don't have the spotlights on my MINI so I can't help this time.. Any other picture request though - I'm you man! I'm the one whose sorry monsta......got a bit confused.

Jan 5th, 2002, 10:58 PM	#16 (permalink)
BruceK Moderator & Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: San Antonio, Texas Local Time: 03:21 AM Posts: 3,759 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Basil Oz spec Cooper S will have them as standard equipment. Yes foglamps are standard on the Sports Pack in the US as well. It was awkward wording on my part that confused you - I meant to say if want foglamps - and aren't getting the Sports Pack - then they are available for about $100. + 2002 MINI Cooper S - Dark Silver / White roof, Sport, Premium, Lapis blue leather + 1965 Mini Traveller - Tartan Red / White roof, 1275, Cooper S discs, fully restored/renewed

Jan 5th, 2002, 11:14 PM	#17 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 07:21 PM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by BruceK Yes foglamps are standard on the Sports Pack in the US as well. It was awkward wording on my part that confused you - I meant to say if want foglamps - and aren't getting the Sports Pack - then they are available for about $100. No my fault again Bruce. I should have been clearer. Integrated Foglights are "Standard" issue in Oz Cooper S. No need for sportspacks or any other pack. They come with the car as bog standard. They are $290AU extra for the Cooper. Which reminds me. If anyone is interested on what standard fare the Cooper gets here in oz. Let me know and I'll post the brochure. I think you would be amazed at whats standard issue for the price. Last edited by Basil : Jan 7th, 2002 at 05:23 AM.

Jan 6th, 2002, 01:50 AM	#18 (permalink)
rich MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia Local Time: 07:21 PM Posts: 1,586 Offline	Good, but... Quote: Originally posted by Basil No my fault again Bruce. I should have been clearer. Integrated Foglights are "Standard" issue in Oz Cooper S. No need for sportspacks or any other pack. They come with the car as bog standard. They are $200AU extra for the Cooper. Which reminds me. If anyone is interested on what standard fare the Cooper gets here in oz. Let me know and I'll post the brochure. I think you would be amazed at whats standard issue for the price. I didn't know we got the foglights standard on the S. I guess this is good news, though I doubt whether I will ever get to use them in fog. It's pretty rare in these parts

Jan 6th, 2002, 02:02 AM	#19 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 07:21 PM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Re: Good, but... Quote: Originally posted by rich I didn't know we got the foglights standard on the S. I guess this is good news, though I doubt whether I will ever get to use them in fog. It's pretty rare in these parts Well, thats what it says in the first piece of correspondance I got from BMW...... Standard Spec: 120kw supercharged 1.6 litre 6 speed gearbox Six airbags including head air-bags Chrome bumper trim ( oh yea sure!!!) Car/ Key memory Remote Central locking Four adjustable headrests 16" Alloys Intercooler intake Alloy interior surface finishes Cloth/leather upholstery Central tacho/column mounted speedo Air-conditioning In-Dash CD Electric windows/ mirrors Traction control Sports suspension (no + mentioned, but im sure thats what they mean, coz it's not mentioned for the cooper which gets SS standard) Sports Seats On board Computer rear windscreen wiper ABS Brakes Front Fog Lights

Jan 6th, 2002, 02:18 AM	#20 (permalink)
BruceK Moderator & Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: San Antonio, Texas Local Time: 03:21 AM Posts: 3,759 Offline	Re: Re: Good, but... Quote: Originally posted by Basil Well, thats what it says in the first piece of correspondance I got from BMW...... Standard Spec: ... Chrome bumper trim ( oh yea sure!!!) ... Front Fog Lights I think the "chrome trim" mistake - plus the fact the no other country's Cooper S specs include them as standard - is reason enough to cast some doubt on the fog lights being standard in Oz, don't you? + 2002 MINI Cooper S - Dark Silver / White roof, Sport, Premium, Lapis blue leather + 1965 Mini Traveller - Tartan Red / White roof, 1275, Cooper S discs, fully restored/renewed

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