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Cape Cod MINI · Jan 5th, 2002, 07:52 AM

This is from another forum. The guy went to see the S at a "gala event". Sounds promising, especially the comment about about aftermarket pulleys to boost the supercharger already being developed.
click here to get there

Basil · Jan 6th, 2002, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cape Cod MINI
This is from another forum. The guy went to see the S at a "gala event". Sounds promising, especially the comment about about aftermarket pulleys to boost the supercharger already being developed.
click here to get there

Interesting....Bigger pulleys=more power.

Any knowledgible supercharger people here care to comment on that one.

I have a pulley-less turbo-charged vehicle at present.

Paul · Jan 6th, 2002, 06:35 AM

AFAIK a SMALLER pulley = more power.

I know a few people with plans to develop stuff for the 'S', but most are just that, 'plans'.

rich · Jan 6th, 2002, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Basil

Interesting....Bigger pulleys=more power.

Any knowledgible supercharger people here care to comment on that one.

I have a pulley-less turbo-charged vehicle at present.

I know sweet fanny adams about supercharger pulleys, just thought I'd compliment Basil The Beagle on making an avatar appearance!

BruceK · Jan 6th, 2002, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rich

I know sweet fanny adams about supercharger pulleys, just thought I'd compliment Basil The Beagle on making an avatar appearance!

I know about the reason for the beagle, but I can't help it - I'm still picturing this guy:

LMB · Jan 6th, 2002, 02:49 PM

Faulty Towers was on last night, on Sky TV (UK Gold). I think they might be repeating the series; quite appropriate considering the topic has been brought up.

I was a good as ever

LMB

Cape Cod MINI · Jan 6th, 2002, 03:53 PM

Basil,
Regarding pulley changes. I have a supercharged GrandPrix which runs a max of about 7 pounds of boost. There is a pulley kit which lessens the power it takes to run other areas of the vehicle and boosts the blower p.s.i by about 4-5 pounds. More nice clean cool air sucked in = more go-go boost to the blower. Naturally this should be complimented by a K&N or similar air filter arrangement
No, I don't have the kit, my wife put her foot down. The K&N air filter did make a noticeable change though.
The costs are very reasonable. The tool is more than the pulleys. But, I do beleive that the vehicle warranty is then void.
I have a HyperTech hand-held computer that plugs into the diagnostics port of my Silverado pickup. You can do wonderful things with it! BUT, if I take it into the dealer for work I have to reset everything to factory specs. so it doesn't show up on their computers!
Click here for supercharger pulley kits info.

rich · Jan 6th, 2002, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cape Cod MINI
I have a HyperTech hand-held computer that plugs into the diagnostics port of my Silverado pickup. You can do wonderful things with it! BUT, if I take it into the dealer for work I have to reset everything to factory specs. so it doesn't show up on their computers!

This bring a whole new meaning to the phrase "hacking your mini"

Are you saying you can reprogram the ECU?

If so, with the right leads & software, could this be done from any computer (laptop, palm, etc.)? If so, it could be revolutionary... Owners developing new ECU settings & sharing them on the web

Am I dreaming here? ....Or maybe this is already happening

Cape Cod MINI · Jan 6th, 2002, 06:58 PM

Yes, it reprograms the ECU. I changed shift points, reset the redline on tach (revs), over-rode the top speed limiter, consequently added mucho torque, set it up for high octane fuel (the computer automatically changed spark, etc. for this...beyond my comprehension), made it recongnize a low-temp thermostat that I installed. Also added a K&N air filter and a cat-back tuned hi-po Simpson exhaust/muffler. The pickup now burns rubber from here to eternity (v-8 vortech) and I have blown off (from dead starts at stop lights) a Mustang Cobra, an M3, that new ugly Jag, and a few others. Of course I've lost quite a few too that were out of my league!
I assume this setup corresponds with the "superchips" I have seen referenced here on the forum. The main difference between the HyperTech unit and a chip is that you plug the HyperTech into the diagnostics port and choose what you want to override.
Could this be done from a lap-top with a self-written program? I suppose so, but probably not cost effectively or reliably.
Have you seen the movie "The Fast and the Furious"? They had computers in the rice burners and would key items as they were drag racing! All for show, but an interesting idea.

jwilk · Jan 6th, 2002, 11:30 PM

I just got back fro LA auto show. They had 3 S's. A few points. Has anyone else noticed they no longer have the boost gauge on the column. The fog lights they mention in the sports pack, are NOT spotlights, just foglights in the front valance. I like the stripes, I think they look good in the S.

BruceK · Jan 6th, 2002, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jwilk
I just got back fro LA auto show. They had 3 S's. A few points. Has anyone else noticed they no longer have the boost gauge on the column....

What many people assumed was a boost gauge on the column - there doesn't seem to be a concensus that it really was a boost gauge - just showed up on one or two photos of some early S prototypes. It was never on any of the later prototypes or final Cooper S production photos. So no boost gauge in Cooper S production.

Perhaps it's just as well - my understanding is that a boost gauge for a supercharger, (unlike with a turbocharger), is as useful as a tachometer is for an automatic transmission - interesting to watch but of little real use.

rich · Jan 7th, 2002, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cape Cod MINI
Yes, it reprograms the ECU. I changed shift points, reset the redline on tach (revs), over-rode the top speed limiter, consequently added mucho torque, set it up for high octane fuel (the computer automatically changed spark, etc. for this...beyond my comprehension), made it recongnize a low-temp thermostat that I installed. Also added a K&N air filter and a cat-back tuned hi-po Simpson exhaust/muffler. The pickup now burns rubber from here to eternity (v-8 vortech) and I have blown off (from dead starts at stop lights) a Mustang Cobra, an M3, that new ugly Jag, and a few others. Of course I've lost quite a few too that were out of my league!
I assume this setup corresponds with the "superchips" I have seen referenced here on the forum. The main difference between the HyperTech unit and a chip is that you plug the HyperTech into the diagnostics port and choose what you want to override.
Could this be done from a lap-top with a self-written program? I suppose so, but probably not cost effectively or reliably.
Have you seen the movie "The Fast and the Furious"? They had computers in the rice burners and would key items as they were drag racing! All for show, but an interesting idea.

Thanks... Love the pickup story!

Anyone got any views on doing this to a Mini?

Basil · Jan 7th, 2002, 05:09 AM

Yes, well all that may be so, but the answer to my question that only PM has answered is that the guy that was supposed to be a top notch BMW man said "BIGGER" pulleys.....for MORE power.....

codswallop......

Basil · Jan 7th, 2002, 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Basil
Yes, well all that may be so, but the answer to my question that only PM has answered is that the guy that was supposed to be a top notch BMW man said "BIGGER" pulleys.....for MORE power.....

codswallop......

Errmmm....on second thoughts..... If the BIGGER pulley were on the flywheel, that might make more sense.

Basil · Jan 7th, 2002, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rich

I know sweet fanny adams about supercharger pulleys, just thought I'd compliment Basil The Beagle on making an avatar appearance!

he's cute isn't he.....

OnlyS4me · Jan 7th, 2002, 07:15 AM

Back to the thread now, I've found some hi-res pics on the following link:

HI-RES COOPER S PICS FROM LA

Basil · Jan 7th, 2002, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by OnlyS4me
Back to the thread now, I've found some hi-res pics on the following link:

HI-RES COOPER S PICS FROM LA

Good grief, they're brilliant photo's.

AND they are posted directly as posts. I'm glad Paul has restricted the size of photo's here or I'd spend an hour opening each thread with my current Internet connection.

Good Work M.

Thats a RED S too, and no external shots......bugger!!

OnlyS4me · Jan 7th, 2002, 07:43 AM

Yes, and it's a real shame somebody is sitting just in front of the mysterious glovebox

Mutts · Jan 7th, 2002, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by OnlyS4me
Yes, and it's a real shame somebody is sitting just in front of the mysterious glovebox

Let me resolve the mystery:

Basil · Jan 7th, 2002, 07:53 AM

I wonder how many MINI2 members went to the LA show, and how many took a Digital Camera ?

Jan 5th, 2002, 07:52 AM	#1
Cape Cod MINI Exposing the Beast Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cape Cod, MA Local Time: 05:59 PM Posts: 5,344 Offline	Cooper S in Los Angeles This is from another forum. The guy went to see the S at a "gala event". Sounds promising, especially the comment about about aftermarket pulleys to boost the supercharger already being developed. click here to get there

Jan 6th, 2002, 02:44 AM	#2 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 07:59 AM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Re: Cooper S in Los Angeles Quote: Originally posted by Cape Cod MINI This is from another forum. The guy went to see the S at a "gala event". Sounds promising, especially the comment about about aftermarket pulleys to boost the supercharger already being developed. click here to get there Interesting....Bigger pulleys=more power. Any knowledgible supercharger people here care to comment on that one. I have a pulley-less turbo-charged vehicle at present.

Jan 6th, 2002, 07:06 AM	#4 (permalink)
rich MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia Local Time: 07:59 AM Posts: 1,586 Offline	Re: Re: Cooper S in Los Angeles Quote: Originally posted by Basil Interesting....Bigger pulleys=more power. Any knowledgible supercharger people here care to comment on that one. I have a pulley-less turbo-charged vehicle at present. I know sweet fanny adams about supercharger pulleys, just thought I'd compliment Basil The Beagle on making an avatar appearance!

Jan 6th, 2002, 12:37 PM	#5 (permalink)
BruceK Moderator & Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: San Antonio, Texas Local Time: 03:59 PM Posts: 3,759 Offline	Re: Re: Re: Cooper S in Los Angeles Quote: Originally posted by rich I know sweet fanny adams about supercharger pulleys, just thought I'd compliment Basil The Beagle on making an avatar appearance! I know about the reason for the beagle, but I can't help it - I'm still picturing this guy: Attached Thumbnails + 2002 MINI Cooper S - Dark Silver / White roof, Sport, Premium, Lapis blue leather + 1965 Mini Traveller - Tartan Red / White roof, 1275, Cooper S discs, fully restored/renewed

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Jan 6th, 2002, 06:35 AM	#3 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 10:59 PM Posts: 40,555 Offline	AFAIK a SMALLER pulley = more power. I know a few people with plans to develop stuff for the 'S', but most are just that, 'plans'.

Jan 6th, 2002, 03:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
Cape Cod MINI Exposing the Beast Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cape Cod, MA Local Time: 05:59 PM Posts: 5,344 Offline	Basil, Regarding pulley changes. I have a supercharged GrandPrix which runs a max of about 7 pounds of boost. There is a pulley kit which lessens the power it takes to run other areas of the vehicle and boosts the blower p.s.i by about 4-5 pounds. More nice clean cool air sucked in = more go-go boost to the blower. Naturally this should be complimented by a K&N or similar air filter arrangement No, I don't have the kit, my wife put her foot down. The K&N air filter did make a noticeable change though. The costs are very reasonable. The tool is more than the pulleys. But, I do beleive that the vehicle warranty is then void. I have a HyperTech hand-held computer that plugs into the diagnostics port of my Silverado pickup. You can do wonderful things with it! BUT, if I take it into the dealer for work I have to reset everything to factory specs. so it doesn't show up on their computers! Click here for supercharger pulley kits info. Last edited by Cape Cod MINI : Jan 6th, 2002 at 04:02 PM.

Jan 6th, 2002, 06:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
rich MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia Local Time: 07:59 AM Posts: 1,586 Offline	ECU programming Quote: Originally posted by Cape Cod MINI I have a HyperTech hand-held computer that plugs into the diagnostics port of my Silverado pickup. You can do wonderful things with it! BUT, if I take it into the dealer for work I have to reset everything to factory specs. so it doesn't show up on their computers! This bring a whole new meaning to the phrase "hacking your mini" Are you saying you can reprogram the ECU? If so, with the right leads & software, could this be done from any computer (laptop, palm, etc.)? If so, it could be revolutionary... Owners developing new ECU settings & sharing them on the web Am I dreaming here? ....Or maybe this is already happening

Jan 6th, 2002, 06:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
Cape Cod MINI Exposing the Beast Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cape Cod, MA Local Time: 05:59 PM Posts: 5,344 Offline	Yes, it reprograms the ECU. I changed shift points, reset the redline on tach (revs), over-rode the top speed limiter, consequently added mucho torque, set it up for high octane fuel (the computer automatically changed spark, etc. for this...beyond my comprehension), made it recongnize a low-temp thermostat that I installed. Also added a K&N air filter and a cat-back tuned hi-po Simpson exhaust/muffler. The pickup now burns rubber from here to eternity (v-8 vortech) and I have blown off (from dead starts at stop lights) a Mustang Cobra, an M3, that new ugly Jag, and a few others. Of course I've lost quite a few too that were out of my league! I assume this setup corresponds with the "superchips" I have seen referenced here on the forum. The main difference between the HyperTech unit and a chip is that you plug the HyperTech into the diagnostics port and choose what you want to override. Could this be done from a lap-top with a self-written program? I suppose so, but probably not cost effectively or reliably. Have you seen the movie "The Fast and the Furious"? They had computers in the rice burners and would key items as they were drag racing! All for show, but an interesting idea.

Jan 6th, 2002, 11:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
jwilk MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2001 Location: San Diego, Ca Local Time: 09:59 PM Posts: 98 Offline	I just got back fro LA auto show. They had 3 S's. A few points. Has anyone else noticed they no longer have the boost gauge on the column. The fog lights they mention in the sports pack, are NOT spotlights, just foglights in the front valance. I like the stripes, I think they look good in the S.

Jan 6th, 2002, 11:50 PM	#11 (permalink)
BruceK Moderator & Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: San Antonio, Texas Local Time: 03:59 PM Posts: 3,759 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by jwilk I just got back fro LA auto show. They had 3 S's. A few points. Has anyone else noticed they no longer have the boost gauge on the column.... What many people assumed was a boost gauge on the column - there doesn't seem to be a concensus that it really was a boost gauge - just showed up on one or two photos of some early S prototypes. It was never on any of the later prototypes or final Cooper S production photos. So no boost gauge in Cooper S production. Perhaps it's just as well - my understanding is that a boost gauge for a supercharger, (unlike with a turbocharger), is as useful as a tachometer is for an automatic transmission - interesting to watch but of little real use. + 2002 MINI Cooper S - Dark Silver / White roof, Sport, Premium, Lapis blue leather + 1965 Mini Traveller - Tartan Red / White roof, 1275, Cooper S discs, fully restored/renewed

Jan 7th, 2002, 12:10 AM	#12 (permalink)
rich MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia Local Time: 07:59 AM Posts: 1,586 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Cape Cod MINI Yes, it reprograms the ECU. I changed shift points, reset the redline on tach (revs), over-rode the top speed limiter, consequently added mucho torque, set it up for high octane fuel (the computer automatically changed spark, etc. for this...beyond my comprehension), made it recongnize a low-temp thermostat that I installed. Also added a K&N air filter and a cat-back tuned hi-po Simpson exhaust/muffler. The pickup now burns rubber from here to eternity (v-8 vortech) and I have blown off (from dead starts at stop lights) a Mustang Cobra, an M3, that new ugly Jag, and a few others. Of course I've lost quite a few too that were out of my league! I assume this setup corresponds with the "superchips" I have seen referenced here on the forum. The main difference between the HyperTech unit and a chip is that you plug the HyperTech into the diagnostics port and choose what you want to override. Could this be done from a lap-top with a self-written program? I suppose so, but probably not cost effectively or reliably. Have you seen the movie "The Fast and the Furious"? They had computers in the rice burners and would key items as they were drag racing! All for show, but an interesting idea. Thanks... Love the pickup story! Anyone got any views on doing this to a Mini?

Jan 7th, 2002, 05:09 AM	#13 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 07:59 AM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Yes, well all that may be so, but the answer to my question that only PM has answered is that the guy that was supposed to be a top notch BMW man said "BIGGER" pulleys.....for MORE power..... codswallop......

Jan 7th, 2002, 05:11 AM	#14 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 07:59 AM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Basil Yes, well all that may be so, but the answer to my question that only PM has answered is that the guy that was supposed to be a top notch BMW man said "BIGGER" pulleys.....for MORE power..... codswallop...... Errmmm....on second thoughts..... If the BIGGER pulley were on the flywheel, that might make more sense.

Jan 7th, 2002, 05:20 AM	#15 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 07:59 AM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Re: Re: Re: Cooper S in Los Angeles Quote: Originally posted by rich I know sweet fanny adams about supercharger pulleys, just thought I'd compliment Basil The Beagle on making an avatar appearance! he's cute isn't he.....

Jan 7th, 2002, 07:15 AM	#16 (permalink)
OnlyS4me Loves Leecey Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Broads Local Time: 10:59 PM Posts: 4,759 Offline	HI-RES PICS from LA Back to the thread now, I've found some hi-res pics on the following link: HI-RES COOPER S PICS FROM LA

Jan 7th, 2002, 07:37 AM	#17 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 07:59 AM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Re: HI-RES PICS from LA Quote: Originally posted by OnlyS4me Back to the thread now, I've found some hi-res pics on the following link: HI-RES COOPER S PICS FROM LA Good grief, they're brilliant photo's. AND they are posted directly as posts. I'm glad Paul has restricted the size of photo's here or I'd spend an hour opening each thread with my current Internet connection. Good Work M. Thats a RED S too, and no external shots......bugger!! Last edited by Basil : Jan 7th, 2002 at 07:40 AM.

Jan 7th, 2002, 07:43 AM	#18 (permalink)
OnlyS4me Loves Leecey Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Broads Local Time: 10:59 PM Posts: 4,759 Offline	Yes, and it's a real shame somebody is sitting just in front of the mysterious glovebox

Jan 7th, 2002, 07:53 AM	#19 (permalink)
Mutts MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Amsterdam Local Time: 10:59 PM Posts: 78 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by OnlyS4me Yes, and it's a real shame somebody is sitting just in front of the mysterious glovebox Let me resolve the mystery: Mutts goes nutts

Jan 7th, 2002, 07:53 AM	#20 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 07:59 AM Posts: 5,956 Offline	I wonder how many MINI2 members went to the LA show, and how many took a Digital Camera ?

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