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MINICS · Jan 9th, 2002, 04:15 AM

Just noticed on the UK site that the S weighs in at a hefty 100kg more than a cooper. Surley the supercharger and intercooler are not this heavy.

Or could it be all the extra's that are included on the S!!!

No information on the Aus BMW Mini site about the S, but New Zealand have information on BMW site????

Andy

rich · Jan 9th, 2002, 05:35 AM

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Originally posted by MINICS
Just noticed on the UK site that the S weighs in at a hefty 100kg more than a cooper. Surley the supercharger and intercooler are not this heavy.

Or could it be all the extra's that are included on the S!!!

No information on the Aus BMW Mini site about the S, but New Zealand have information on BMW site????

Andy

Must be the chrome filler cap I guess

BruceK · Jan 9th, 2002, 09:04 AM

Well, the bodyshell is slightly different as there's the battery box under the hatch floor. Also, there's the extra exhaust system stuff, the rear spoiler...

RedShift42 · Jan 9th, 2002, 11:02 AM

Got thinking about it and itemizing. All these things will add up...

- Blower & plumbing
- 6-speed trans
- Sports Susp Plus (heavier springs, sway bars, shocks)
- Different hood, fascias, sills, spoiler, gas cap
- Extra exhaust plumbing
- Larger wheels/tires
- Sports Seats

...But my weight-calibrated estimation skills and mental calculator still only get these items up to about 150lbs, as opposed to the 200lbs weight difference MINIUSA cites. Perhaps that S-standard (NA on Cooper) traction control module is using 50lb heat sinks? (Or better yet, the "traction control" is actually a quaiffe unit!)

Note also the car's 63/37 weight distribution remains the same for both models, despite most S differences found up front. Perhaps the spoiler and gas cap were added as ballast...?

Mini Magnum · Jan 9th, 2002, 11:19 AM

My guess, and that is all that anyone can make at this point, is the Supercharger (very heavy duty parts in the Eaton), the intercooler, thicker sway bars, 6 speed, sports seats, exhaust and don't forget the battery in the back is going to be a higher amp/hour model to sent the power up to the front, along with the extra copper cable, and the larger wheels and tires (don't forget they are run flats with a stiffer side wall)would easily add up to around 150 lbs.

Garfield · Jan 10th, 2002, 01:25 AM

Here's some help, check out the weight difference on the M2.5 Miatas ('01 +) 6 speed. The exact same car, but with a 6 speed, is 150lbs. heavier on the Miata.

Given that possibility, I can EASILY add up those parts to over a couple hundred pounds.

Andrewfuzzy · Jan 10th, 2002, 06:43 PM

Nevermind the extra oooooomphhh should more than make up for it

Jan 9th, 2002, 04:15 AM	#1
MINICS MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Melbourne - Australia Local Time: 01:12 PM Posts: 89 Offline	Porky S Just noticed on the UK site that the S weighs in at a hefty 100kg more than a cooper. Surley the supercharger and intercooler are not this heavy. Or could it be all the extra's that are included on the S!!! No information on the Aus BMW Mini site about the S, but New Zealand have information on BMW site???? Andy It's here (8/11/02) - Cooper S - Black/white, 16" Alloy x-lite - Having heaps of fun

Jan 9th, 2002, 05:35 AM	#2 (permalink)
rich MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia Local Time: 11:12 PM Posts: 1,586 Offline	Re: Porky S Quote: Originally posted by MINICS Just noticed on the UK site that the S weighs in at a hefty 100kg more than a cooper. Surley the supercharger and intercooler are not this heavy. Or could it be all the extra's that are included on the S!!! No information on the Aus BMW Mini site about the S, but New Zealand have information on BMW site???? Andy Must be the chrome filler cap I guess

Jan 9th, 2002, 09:04 AM	#3 (permalink)
BruceK Moderator & Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: San Antonio, Texas Local Time: 07:12 AM Posts: 3,759 Offline	Well, the bodyshell is slightly different as there's the battery box under the hatch floor. Also, there's the extra exhaust system stuff, the rear spoiler... + 2002 MINI Cooper S - Dark Silver / White roof, Sport, Premium, Lapis blue leather + 1965 Mini Traveller - Tartan Red / White roof, 1275, Cooper S discs, fully restored/renewed

Jan 9th, 2002, 11:02 AM	#4 (permalink)
RedShift42 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Boston, MA Local Time: 08:12 AM Posts: 52 Offline	Got thinking about it and itemizing. All these things will add up... - Blower & plumbing - 6-speed trans - Sports Susp Plus (heavier springs, sway bars, shocks) - Different hood, fascias, sills, spoiler, gas cap - Extra exhaust plumbing - Larger wheels/tires - Sports Seats ...But my weight-calibrated estimation skills and mental calculator still only get these items up to about 150lbs, as opposed to the 200lbs weight difference MINIUSA cites. Perhaps that S-standard (NA on Cooper) traction control module is using 50lb heat sinks? (Or better yet, the "traction control" is actually a quaiffe unit!) Note also the car's 63/37 weight distribution remains the same for both models, despite most S differences found up front. Perhaps the spoiler and gas cap were added as ballast...? -Eric. Current Bad Ride: VW Passat VR6 and no motorcycle. <sigh>

Jan 9th, 2002, 11:19 AM	#5 (permalink)
Mini Magnum MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Maryland Local Time: 08:12 AM Posts: 39 Offline	heaver cooper s My guess, and that is all that anyone can make at this point, is the Supercharger (very heavy duty parts in the Eaton), the intercooler, thicker sway bars, 6 speed, sports seats, exhaust and don't forget the battery in the back is going to be a higher amp/hour model to sent the power up to the front, along with the extra copper cable, and the larger wheels and tires (don't forget they are run flats with a stiffer side wall)would easily add up to around 150 lbs. Happiness is a Mini on a go cart track!

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Jan 10th, 2002, 01:25 AM	#6 (permalink)
Garfield MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Mt. Airy, MD USA Local Time: 08:12 AM Posts: 791 Offline	Here's some help, check out the weight difference on the M2.5 Miatas ('01 +) 6 speed. The exact same car, but with a 6 speed, is 150lbs. heavier on the Miata. Given that possibility, I can EASILY add up those parts to over a couple hundred pounds. - 2005 G Stock '05 MINI or it's back to a Miata in C Stock - 2004 G Stock 2nd place Pro Solo, 9th Place Solo II - 2003 STX 5th place Pro Solo, 6th Place Solo II - 2002 H Stock Pro Solo National Champion

Jan 10th, 2002, 06:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
Andrewfuzzy MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: uk Local Time: 02:12 PM Posts: 176 Offline	Nevermind the extra oooooomphhh should more than make up for it

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